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ABC Fuels Myth Discourse Caused Shooting, Sawyer Astounded by Falling Support for Gun Control
News Busters ^ | 1/17/11 | Brent Baker

Posted on 01/17/2011 6:01:30 PM PST by Nachum

“The country is pretty unified behind the idea that President Obama found the right words, the right tone at the right time,” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos announced Monday night in touting how a new ABC News/Washington Post poll found “78 percent approve of how he handled” the Tucson shooting, in contrast to Sarah Palin, “not so much, only 30 percent approve of her response.”

When Stephanopoulos noted “the support for stricter gun control has dropped over the last few years,” anchor Diane Sawyer expressed astonishment: “Stricter has dropped?” Instead of detailing that trend, Stephanopoulos concentrated on some specific policies with overwhelming support.

The ABC duo ignored how their poll advanced a false media narrative in asking: “As you may know, a gunman shot a U.S. Congress member and 18 other people in Arizona late last week. Is it your impression that the political discourse in this country did or did not contribute to this incident?” [PDF rundown of the poll]

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abc; discourse; fuels; giffords; myth

1 posted on 01/17/2011 6:01:34 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

You mean your Christian Faith right Barrack


2 posted on 01/17/2011 6:05:42 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: Nachum
Yes, I heard that tonight. They are happy that there is a bill to ban clips that hold thirty bullets. (did you hear the sorry Reagin Alzheimer story along with that?)
3 posted on 01/17/2011 6:07:03 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

Did you say “clips?”


4 posted on 01/17/2011 6:08:53 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Bronzy

Reagin= Reagan!


5 posted on 01/17/2011 6:09:25 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Whatever they are. They hold bullets.
6 posted on 01/17/2011 6:10:43 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

You said “bullets?” Oh, man.


7 posted on 01/17/2011 6:16:28 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Bronzy
Cartridges. They hold cartridges.

(Ducking and running...)

8 posted on 01/17/2011 6:17:32 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Cyber Liberty

What do they hold? Ammo?


9 posted on 01/17/2011 6:19:59 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Billthedrill

I can only handle a revolver. Anything that requires pull power is useless to me.


10 posted on 01/17/2011 6:22:37 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Billthedrill

He was a jihadist,,,, QUICK! QUICK! reverse course,,start defending him on religous grounds!!! Ignore the story!


11 posted on 01/17/2011 6:23:38 PM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah.)
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To: Nachum
“The country is pretty unified behind the idea that President Obama found the right words, the right tone at the right time,” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos announced Monday night...

Well, except for that James Eric Fuller guy.

12 posted on 01/17/2011 6:26:59 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Billthedrill
You are making fun of me. That is not civil. I buy bullets./lol
13 posted on 01/17/2011 6:32:17 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

“They” are magazines, and they hold cartridges. Often, they are called “rounds,” but never “bullets.” Bullets are the small things at the tip that go faster than all get-out. Clips are special hardware used to hold rifle cartridges together, until loaded into a rifle. There is a version for pistol rounds, but one would never confuse them with “magazines.”

Ammo is good. Ammunition is better. Eh. To-MAY-toe, To-MAH-toe.

Just get with the jargon. :^)


14 posted on 01/17/2011 6:33:08 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Bronzy; Billthedrill

Bill is one of the very few posters on FR who is less serious than I.


15 posted on 01/17/2011 6:36:11 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Bronzy
I buy bullets


16 posted on 01/17/2011 6:40:04 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Well, I guess I just buy what they tell me goes with my S&W small revolver. I go to Don’s Guns Indianapolis for practice and do quite well practicing. I don’t get into the what is this and that. I just want to hit the target.


17 posted on 01/17/2011 6:40:06 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Nachum
I absolutely support gun control!
If you can't hit the damn target, you shouldn't be handling the thing. Get to the range and learn how to control the thing already! Instructors are standing by.
18 posted on 01/17/2011 6:40:45 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Nachum

It is because more Americans everyday are waking up to the fact that the media lies to us all, they report their agenda and back it up with only the facts or made up half-truths that support it.


19 posted on 01/17/2011 6:42:28 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Bronzy

http://www.donsguns.com/IndoorShooting/


20 posted on 01/17/2011 6:45:04 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Nachum

That Arizona fune-rally was damn Orwellian... the statists in the DOJ and Homeland Security read to us from the Bible (what a load of B.S.) and then the Great Prez. spoke to us little rabble rousers about the need for CIVILITY.

Screw them. I give Obummer an F for his creepy POS address.


21 posted on 01/17/2011 6:47:16 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Bronzy
I just want to hit the target.

That's what it's all about, Bronzy. That's gun control right there. :^)

22 posted on 01/17/2011 6:47:20 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

That is why I go there. The range is so cool. The images keep coming closer and closer. However, wearing all of the safety gear sort of makes it different than reality.


23 posted on 01/17/2011 6:53:02 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

Be glad for the hearing part. My ears still ring from all the times I had shooting when I was a pup.


24 posted on 01/17/2011 6:54:40 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
This thread has gone haywire as evidenced by the posters topic. ABC did have issues with the polls. But they found their breath in the new gun control laws to be introduced.
25 posted on 01/17/2011 7:04:54 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

This is my rifle, this is my gun....


26 posted on 01/17/2011 7:13:45 PM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: Nachum
One of the comments after the linked article I find rather depressing.

The poster claims to now see that Palin can never win the election because her approval ratings are so low. Apparently the poster knows this because of the polls helpfully supplied by the liberal media.

In the linked article, the same liberal media is using their polls to establish that a majority of Americans support more gun control. That is almost certainly a lie. If that were the case we wouldn't be seeing more and more pro-gun Democrats being elected.

If the majority of Americans support gun control, then we can anticipate seeing the Republican-controlled House of Representatives passing new infringements. I hope not.

27 posted on 01/17/2011 9:11:14 PM PST by William Tell
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To: Bronzy; Cyber Liberty

(Poking head up) Is it safe to come out now? Yeh. Firearms terminology pedants are worse than grammar nazis. I oughta know.


28 posted on 01/17/2011 9:54:24 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

That’s pretty sad to discover about you, Bill. And I always had you figured out to be a pretty nice guy. You know, that toad that shot up those people in Tucson fancied himself a “grammar Nazi.”


29 posted on 01/17/2011 11:34:13 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Billthedrill

That’s funny. It didn’t break my heart. I know how to use my strap.


30 posted on 01/18/2011 7:07:23 AM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

I didn’t realize Bill thought wanting to keep the proper distinction between a “clip” and a “magazine” was being pedantic. He always seemed like a good guy in the past, too. My heart’s not breaking either, but it never feels good to have to say goodbye to a friend....

Calling someone a pendantic is as bad as calling him a grammar Nazi on FR.


31 posted on 01/18/2011 8:06:37 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

pendantic = pedantic


32 posted on 01/18/2011 8:07:18 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Rules wouldn’t be rules if everyone was perfect.


33 posted on 01/18/2011 8:16:07 AM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
“Calling someone a pendantic is as bad as calling him a grammar Nazi on FR.”

Do people get weird over small stuff here?

34 posted on 01/18/2011 8:25:49 AM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

I don’t think so, at least not very often. I try not to do that, but apparently sometimes I still do....


35 posted on 01/18/2011 8:28:55 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I have often spelled words incorrectly here while hurrying and not doing spell check. Dollar as doller, taxes as taxis, bullet as bullit for example. It, also, has to do with my hillbilly way of talking. My grocery cart is a buggy. My grocery bag is a sack. If I stayed in CT, I guess the word idea would be idear. Too many years in TN. A far tar is a fire tower.
36 posted on 01/18/2011 9:04:24 AM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

:^)

“As one door closes, another opens.” See you on the boards, Bronzy.


37 posted on 01/18/2011 9:24:32 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I was referring to me, actually, no offense. And I'm a heckuva grammar and spelling nazi too, I just never post about it. I'm still working on the mind control thing, though.

BTW, Loughner wasn't alone in his conviction that thought can be controlled by grammar. The whole political correctness movement on the Left is driven by the conviction that by controlling vocabulary they're controlling language and hence controlling thought. Some surprisingly educated people - mostly postmodernists - fail to draw the distinction. George Lakoff - the "Tea Party Murders" guy - has made a career out of it.

This one doesn't fall under that category, though. There isn't any political gain by calling magazines, magazines, but there is by calling abortion "pro-choice".

Hmm...now this post is pedantic... ;-)

38 posted on 01/18/2011 7:43:16 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I agree with everything you say there, so I guess the pedantic shoe fits me as well....no offense intended.


39 posted on 01/19/2011 4:47:08 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
You said: "I didn’t realize Bill thought wanting to keep the proper distinction between a “clip” and a “magazine” was being pedantic. He always seemed like a good guy in the past, too. My heart’s not breaking either, but it never feels good to have to say goodbye to a friend...."

You feel bad, but how do you think I feel after all my enbloc clips for my M1 Garand have turned into magazines without my knowing it.

40 posted on 01/19/2011 1:44:52 PM PST by TomMix
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To: TomMix

Heh. I’d feel pretty bad, that’s for sure...There are also revolver clips, but I can’t see any use for them at my house.


41 posted on 01/19/2011 2:00:12 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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