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Voters OK with tax hikes - after they're informed
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/18/11 | Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross

Posted on 01/18/2011 7:56:08 AM PST by SmithL

If he can get his proposed tax extensions on the ballot, Gov. Jerry Brown just might have a shot at persuading voters to pass them and balance the state's budget.

A month before Brown introduced his budget plan, a statewide voter survey by pollster Jim Moore, commissioned by Democratic legislators, found that 58 percent of the 1,000 respondents were inclined to extend the 2009 increases for four years if doing so would minimize cuts to K-12 education, public safety and health care.

However, Brown and his allies will have to do some educating. That 58 percent support was registered only after pollsters briefed respondents about the 2009 hikes in the income and sales taxes and vehicle license fee.

Only about a third of those surveyed even knew they had been raised.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bs; cabudget; cainitiatives; cataxes; goldenstate; moonbeam; taxandspend; yourtaxdollarsatwork
And so, the education indoctrination has begun!
1 posted on 01/18/2011 7:56:12 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

How are voters with Spending cuts? Did they ask that?


2 posted on 01/18/2011 7:57:22 AM PST by Mr. K ("...but Brondo has what plants crave")
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To: SmithL

Where’s the barf alert?

The media is 100% complicit in the march of Socialism in America. The First Amendment was meant to keep us free; instead they turned it against us through lies and manipulation.


3 posted on 01/18/2011 7:57:27 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SmithL

talk about a false choice...


4 posted on 01/18/2011 7:58:04 AM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: SmithL

” Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross “

It took *two* Liberals to write this drivel??

Must be a Union job......


5 posted on 01/18/2011 7:58:19 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: SmithL

You mean the CYA campaign for Brown.
No mention of the outragous union contracts I bet.


6 posted on 01/18/2011 7:58:32 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: SmithL
.....Pelosi Galore is for it. so it must be good for her district.....
7 posted on 01/18/2011 7:58:32 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SmithL
Voters OK with tax hikes - after they're informed . . . that it's someone else's taxes that will be raised.
8 posted on 01/18/2011 7:58:59 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: SmithL
Californians love tax hikes. As long as they're paid by someone else.
9 posted on 01/18/2011 7:59:14 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: SmithL

It’s California... of COURSE they’re fine with the tax hike. They’re probably just convinced the “evil rich people” will pay it.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 8:00:58 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: SmithL

Is it any wonder why individuals and businesses are leaving California in record numbers and moving to states that have lesser tax rates and fewer regulations over business.

Illinois is doing the same thing.

These two states are going to lose a lot of people and businesses both.

The beneficiaries will be neighboring states and other states that have low tax rates and better business climates and atmospheres.


11 posted on 01/18/2011 8:01:02 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: SmithL

“...would minimize cuts to K-12 education, public safety and health care.”

Funny, isn’t it, how public education, police and health care always seem to be the first things on the chopping block when the gov’t is threatening to cut spending if they can’t get tax increases?


12 posted on 01/18/2011 8:01:28 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: SmithL
Right.....

Mike

13 posted on 01/18/2011 8:01:54 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: SmithL
New taxes gooood. Private property baaaad.

Enjoy your new taxes, California. And rest easy knowing state employee pensions will remain untouched for another decade and illegal immigrants will continue to collect their goodies!

14 posted on 01/18/2011 8:03:23 AM PST by skeeter
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To: SmithL

Ann Arbor Michigan is a beautiful example of the problem. Washtenaw county has the highest per capita number of taxpayer funded jobs. Sure enough they always want more taxes.

Funny thing is that they look down on the rest of the state is greedy ignorant rednecks for wanting lower taxes.


15 posted on 01/18/2011 8:08:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Steely Tom

Yeah


16 posted on 01/18/2011 8:09:53 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

You have a majority in this state on welfare, government employment welfare and other great society programs.
Brown had the employment unions getting nothing cut.
They spend a good 150 million backing him last election and they will spend more now to try and keep their King sized ransom pay.


17 posted on 01/18/2011 8:10:37 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SmithL

I’m just guessing here, but I bet these 1,000 respondents...

DON’T PAY ANY TAXES!!


18 posted on 01/18/2011 8:18:29 AM PST by bushbuddy
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To: SmithL

[1,000 respondents were inclined to extend the 2009 increases for four years if doing so would minimize cuts to K-12 education, public safety and health care.]

What if they are told the truth? Cuts to K-12 education, public safety and health care are being made to preserve massive payments to unionized gov’t employees. Do they want to extend tax increases to pay for cushy retirements for a government workers at 52?


19 posted on 01/18/2011 8:18:57 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: SmithL

This is what’s called a push poll.


20 posted on 01/18/2011 8:19:45 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: rarestia
"The media is 100% complicit in the march of Socialism in America."

Yes, they are.

When the first 15-20 minutes of a news program is nothing but a discussion of fashions at an awards show, it is a clear demonstration of that complicity. [Sunday night Fox 11]

21 posted on 01/18/2011 8:27:01 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: SmithL
[...] a statewide voter survey by pollster Jim Moore, commissioned by Democratic legislators, found that 58 percent of the 1,000 respondents were inclined to extend the 2009 increases for four years if doing so would minimize cuts to K-12 education, public safety and health care.

Two questions:

1. How many of those "58%" are on the dole, and thus don't pay taxes anyway, or are themselves employees of the education, public safety, and health care systems?

2. How many of those polled were offered the alternative "[...] if the resultant revenues would be dedicated to lowering the deficit?"

Regards,

22 posted on 01/18/2011 8:32:35 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: KansasGirl
What's so sad is that these are existing taxes hikes that would be extended to maintain the status quo, that is, a current $28+ billion deficit. The state will still have to find new sources of revenue (additional tax hikes) and/or spending cuts to bring the budget in line. Very bright people these respondents.....
23 posted on 01/18/2011 8:52:32 AM PST by yadent
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To: SmithL

I suspect many Californians will vote with their feet and simply leave for states with less tax burden.


24 posted on 01/18/2011 9:42:45 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: SmithL

File this under things I knew from the headline weren’t in the least bit true- at all.

American’s are not okay with Tax increases, and never will be as long as they are at these rates.

Now, if say we had a 5% tax rate, and one day they asked us to give 6% for x, y,z and x,y,z were reasonable, then I could see that sentiment maybe being true.


25 posted on 01/18/2011 10:22:43 AM PST by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: SmithL
Only about a third of those surveyed even knew they had been raised.

Duh...well over a third of adults pay no taxes at all. They don't see tax bills at all, only EITC checks, EBT cards, and Section 8 vouchers. For all they know, the money to pay for all this might as well come from leprechauns and elves.

26 posted on 01/18/2011 10:30:42 AM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: SmithL

LOL!

Sure.


27 posted on 01/18/2011 10:43:27 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SmithL

The ones who do not have to pay the taxes are ok with them.


28 posted on 01/18/2011 10:47:37 AM PST by sport
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To: denydenydeny
Only about a third of those surveyed even knew they had been raised.

There's the money quote, and proof that you're right.

If you told most of these respondents that "politicians have a money tree in their backyard, and they shake it whenever they need more cash" ... most of them would grunt "Uh-huh" and go back to watching TV.

The rest would ask "Where do all the politicians live at?"

29 posted on 01/18/2011 1:44:12 PM PST by wbill
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