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Mike Pence's Options- Conservative leaders are beating the drum for a Mike Pence presidential run
WSJ ^ | 1/18/11 | Steve Moore

Posted on 01/18/2011 9:59:17 AM PST by pissant

Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels may not be the only Hoosier seeking the Republican nomination for president in 2012. The rumors started swirling over the weekend that Rep. Mike Pence could be throwing his hat in the ring as well.

Conservative leaders are certainly beating the drum for a Pence run. This week, Mr. Pence will receive a letter of support for a presidential bid from, among others, Dick Armey, a former Republican House majority leader; Brent Bozell, president of the Media Research Center; and Morton Blackwell, president of the Leadership Institute.

There is also a petition circulating on the Internet to draft Mr. Pence for president. It is being spearheaded by former Rep. Jim Ryan and former Reagan official Ralph Benko, who has close ties to the conservative blogging community and the tea party movement. We're also told that a coalition of conservative state legislators in South Carolina is urging Mr. Pence to run and promising to do all it can to carry the early primary state for the congressman. Mr. Pence also enjoys the support of two former GOP congressmen from Indiana—David McIntosh and Chris Chocola, who now runs the Club for Growth. "Mike has a Reagan quality to him that is lacking in many of the other first tier Republican candidates," said Mr. McIntosh.

Mr. Pence won the straw poll at a gathering of more than 1,000 social conservatives in Washington, D.C., over the summer—besting Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, and presumptive front-runner Mitt Romney. One concern is what Sarah Palin's intentions are, since she would have a huge funding base if she runs. But the pro-Pence movement fears that she is highly polarizing and someone who would have a difficult time beating President Obama in the general election.

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1 posted on 01/18/2011 9:59:21 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

This conservative is beating the drum for a Sarah Palin Presidency.


2 posted on 01/18/2011 10:03:24 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: pissant

No matter what, we will have a ton of candidates this election which is great. Four conservatives at least (Pence, Palin, Cain, Bachmann) and those are the only ones I can think of off hand. This is going to be a most exciting primary and I can’t wait for the debates. They are going to be something to watch.


3 posted on 01/18/2011 10:03:54 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: pissant

You’re gonna have quite the inner conflict if he runs and picks Palin as his VP running mate, aren’t you?

Actually, he’s the one person, other than Palin, that I could get behind.

Gomer, Mittens and Newt can KMA right now and get it over with.


4 posted on 01/18/2011 10:04:14 AM PST by digger48
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To: napscoordinator

The debates will need to be 4 hours long just so all 25 candidates can get one question.


5 posted on 01/18/2011 10:05:16 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

Pence is good. So is DeMint. So is Ryan. So is Barbour.

Here’s a name I’d like to float - Butch Otter. Gov. of Idaho. From all I’ve heard to date, he seems eminently qualified, both experience-wise and ideologically.


6 posted on 01/18/2011 10:07:52 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: napscoordinator

The more the better - at least at the start. We need more than just 2008’s retreads (Huckabee, Romney, even Palin). Time to bring in some new blood into the GOP leadership caste.


7 posted on 01/18/2011 10:09:40 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Neither Otter nor my other gubner of choice, Mike Rounds (who just finished his 2nd and last term) have made any noises about running.


8 posted on 01/18/2011 10:09:46 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

Conservative leaders or Republican leaders?

lol.

Pence isn’t bad but he’s late. heh


9 posted on 01/18/2011 10:10:47 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: pissant
"...the buzz is growing louder each day."

AS IT SHOULD!

10 posted on 01/18/2011 10:12:08 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Nominating anyone other than Sarah Palin is akin to supporting the status quo. I like Pence but he would not be effective as president.


11 posted on 01/18/2011 10:12:22 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: pissant
Neither Otter nor my other gubner of choice, Mike Rounds (who just finished his 2nd and last term) have made any noises about running.

I've not heard of Rounds - which state?

True enough...but then again, before he picked her, who (besides myself, toot my own horn) had heard of Sarah Palin?

It's not that I dislike here - I just think it's unhealthy for conservatives to be fixating on her the way so many are, to the exclusion of many other potentially fine candidates. We don't like "anointed" candidates who are pre-picked for us, so why are we making Palin into the same?

12 posted on 01/18/2011 10:12:33 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: pissant
Mr. Pence won the straw poll at a gathering of more than 1,000 social conservatives in Washington, D.C.

Assuming they actually found 1000 true conservatives in Washington, that's not a necessarily a ringing endorsement in my book.

13 posted on 01/18/2011 10:14:40 AM PST by IamConservative (Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day. - Truman)
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To: GeronL

Late for what? Not one person has officially started running yet. He has plenty of time. When did McCain decide to run? When did Obama? You can be late for dinner but late for running for President two years out. The only ones that was horribly late last time round was Rudy (which was good) and Thompson who never started.


14 posted on 01/18/2011 10:15:29 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: pissant

I like Mike P. He’s a Tea Partier. But I don’t think he’s ready for the top of the ticket. Better move to shoot for VP.


15 posted on 01/18/2011 10:16:07 AM PST by McGruff (We must reject the idea that every time a laws broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker)
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To: pissant

This conservative is beating the drum for a Sarah Palin Presidency.


16 posted on 01/18/2011 10:18:55 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: GeronL
Pence isn’t bad but he’s late. heh

Late for what? The primary season doesn't even START for another year. If we've already anointed Sarah Palin and have decided to close it off already, then we might as well throw in the towel now.

17 posted on 01/18/2011 10:19:25 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: napscoordinator

The person should have started running January of 2009.


18 posted on 01/18/2011 10:19:37 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: digger48

The problem is whomever wins is gonna need a minimum $250 million war chest for the general election. No Newt, Mo Mott, No RINOs.

The media and ALL of TV are behind the muslim. O’Reilly and Beck are major Obama stooges now - they are also anti-birthers. I was done with ALL TV election night 2008 when the fox gang was giddy over the coup takeover by Islam. My guess is Prince Al Waleed gave them all bonuses.


19 posted on 01/18/2011 10:21:16 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: napscoordinator
No matter what, we will have a ton of candidates this election which is great.

I still don't understand how people on a supposedly conservative site can be so ignorant of politics.

No, a large number of conservatives will NOT be great. It will split the conservative base vote and allow the establishment RINO to win with a plurality.

They do this to us every time. The establishment knows how to get it's candidate, and they know something that many of us apparently can't comprehend..the one with the most votes wins.

You can win with 30% if you can get the conservatives to split between several candidates, thus making their votes inconsequential.

Look at this parade of RINO's...and ask yourself how come we are always faced with supporting these guys in a so called conservative party? People blame the RNC for sticking us with these moderates, but it is our votes that could stop them.

Nixon, Ford, Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney?

The establishment is playing Chess while we are trying to figure out if we want to be black or red in a game of checkers. We need to rally behind a SINGLE conservative en masse to get a conservative candidate.

I've said this before, and it is becoming more clear every day...a vote for anyone other than Governor Palin is a defacto vote for Romney.

20 posted on 01/18/2011 10:34:29 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: pissant

The latest hope of the ‘Stop Sarah’ crowd.

That buzz is between your ears.


21 posted on 01/18/2011 10:35:26 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: t-dude

“stop sarah’, my a**. How about a draft a Reaganite. Which Palin most definitely is not. Peddle your Palin coronation to someone else.


22 posted on 01/18/2011 10:38:42 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: t-dude

No, a large number of conservatives will NOT be great.

I want to have a choice of conservatives who I want to vote for instead of one like last year.....Huckster.....Yuk! Sorry but your nonsense does not cut it for me. Remember that we at the end of the primary season only have a small choice. At least with 10 or more to chose from we can get a decent pick. Don’t tell me you are from Iowa and get all the bundles of love. Well most of us are not and we want good choices.


23 posted on 01/18/2011 10:44:24 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: digger48
Pence is the author of the "touchback amnesty" scam. He would be a disaster as President.

Whatever Happened to Mike Pence? by Phyllis Schlafly

Say It Ain’t So, Mike: The Pence immigration plan has let conservatives down by Rep. Steve King

24 posted on 01/18/2011 10:46:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: pissant

“the buzz is growing louder each day.”
Then I suggest you reduce your meds.


25 posted on 01/18/2011 10:48:52 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: napscoordinator

You must be right, we always nominate a strong rock ribbed conservative...boy those establishment Republicans are DUMB!!

Trying to foist Dole, McCain and Romney on us...

It’s great we can choose from Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo and Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee and Alan Keyes and Herman Cain and Mike Pence and on and on and on...we conservatives just love these guys and our vote is a purity test!

This isn’t about nominating a potential president, it’s about seeing if we’re smart enough to discern who the most conservative candidate is. I think pissant is winning...the country, not so much.


26 posted on 01/18/2011 10:57:20 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: pissant

Just today I heard a local radio talk show host say he will be having Pence on his show. BTW, I’m in Iowa which makes me think it’s a possibility.


27 posted on 01/18/2011 11:00:20 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

If the rumors from last week are true he just might run for president.

Last week I heard Daniels was NOT going to run and instead would be backing Haley Barbour, and if Daniels didn’t run, Pence probably would.

I guess they think two guys from Indiana might be a bit much.

I think if Sarah announces the field is going to shrink very fast. There are over a dozen considering it, but they are all waiting to see what the girl does.

Such men of conviction!


28 posted on 01/18/2011 11:11:48 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

>> I just think it’s unhealthy for conservatives to be fixating on her <<

Oh heavens! Don’t tell me! Are you suggesting there’s some kinda PPDS (Pro-Palin Derangement Syndrome) hereabouts?


29 posted on 01/18/2011 11:16:59 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: t-dude
It will split the conservative base vote and allow the establishment RINO to win with a plurality.

My local retreads, Rep.Dan Burton and Sen. Dan Coats are back in DC, thanks to 4-5 other very good candidates splitting the Primary tickets. I don't believe either one came close to 50% of the total vote.

30 posted on 01/18/2011 11:19:44 AM PST by digger48
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To: Hawthorn
Oh heavens! Don’t tell me! Are you suggesting there’s some kinda PPDS (Pro-Palin Derangement Syndrome) hereabouts?

Not necessarily, but I DO think it's a bit stultifying to take a "Sarah or nobody" sort of attitude, especially this early in the game. There are plenty of fine conservatives out there besides here - a lot of them MORE conservative than she is. I'm open to entertaining them as possibilities for 2012.

31 posted on 01/18/2011 11:28:41 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Hawthorn
Oh heavens! Don’t tell me! Are you suggesting there’s some kinda PPDS (Pro-Palin Derangement Syndrome) hereabouts?

Not necessarily, but I DO think it's a bit stultifying to take a "Sarah or nobody" sort of attitude, especially this early in the game. There are plenty of fine conservatives out there besides here - a lot of them MORE conservative than she is. I'm open to entertaining them as possibilities for 2012.

32 posted on 01/18/2011 11:28:52 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: kabar
Pence is the author of the "touchback amnesty" scam. He would be a disaster as President.

Not to point fingers, but Palin isn't exactly a rose on this issue, either...

33 posted on 01/18/2011 11:32:57 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: upsdriver

“Nominating anyone other than Sarah Palin is akin to supporting the status quo. I like Pence but he would not be effective as president.”

I hate personal attacks,so please forgive me, but this is by far the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Can you name me one position of Sarah Palin’s that is actually conservative? more specifically, can you name one position of Sarah Palin’s that is to the right of the typical GOP talking points?


34 posted on 01/18/2011 11:37:58 AM PST by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Carl LaFong

Touche


35 posted on 01/18/2011 11:57:20 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Any hope of King still running? I actually like King more than Pence. He’s one of the few more conservative than Pence and subscribes to the Hunter philosophy more closely.


36 posted on 01/18/2011 12:17:21 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: kabar

Pence also has come around and decided NO AMNESTY of any kind is warranted.


37 posted on 01/18/2011 12:18:43 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You are correct, sir. She still supports amnesty.


38 posted on 01/18/2011 12:26:32 PM PST by kabar
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To: Gipper08

I’ll try and explain my statement to you in a way you might better understand. What I mean by “the status quo” is the inside-the-beltway elites. As good a conservative as Pence is, he is also tainted by serving in that cesspool. I’ve come to realize that those good ol’ boys are more interested in preserving their power than reforming the way government works. The place is so damned corrupt that an outside leader is needed to begin the arduous task of cleaning up the town.

Sarah Palin has a proven track record of rooting out corruption. She also went through the budgets of Alaska as governor and Wasilla as mayor,line by line, trimming unnecessary spending as much as possible. She adamantly supports energy exploration, a strong defense, support for Israel, cutting spending and taxes and reducing regulations on business. She has also taken everything the left has thrown at her while, at the same time, getting very little support from elected Republicans, including Pence. As to the elected Republicans not publicly supporting her, my question is why? Lack of courage? Afraid of the media? Or is it for the same reasons as the left, that they feel she is a threat to their base of power?

Now, as for Pence, he is a great conservative congressman, imo. If he truly wants to make a difference, he would stay in the congress and fight for needed reforms. Or he could, as some want him to do, run for governor of Indiana. He needs to prove he has administrative skills before he is ready for the presidency. Just being a conservative and holding conservative views isn’t enough.

BTW, typical GOP talking points have proven to be just that, merely talking points. If it weren’t for the tea party movement, there wouldn’t be anything accomplished and I need to yet see if the current members of congress have learned the lessons of the last election. The days of just saying what people want to hear to be elected and then discarded are over. Either produce or you’re fired!


39 posted on 01/18/2011 12:30:16 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: upsdriver

decent answer but it does not apply to Pence. Pence made his name opposing the leadership of his party and is actually loathed by the party insiders. He was actually blamed for losing the house in 06 because he told the truth about the GOp... he then ran for leader and received all of 25 votes...basically Pence spent 4 years running down (in public) the leadership (and president) of his own party(he obviously has toned it down since 08 but he did not sell out on TARP and other things)...put in another way...staus quo would be someone Ted Stevens could have gotten along with...pence certainly is not that (for now)


40 posted on 01/18/2011 12:43:15 PM PST by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: pissant

I wonder what made him come around? And exactly how does he define amnesty? McCain said he is against amnesty and McCain-Kennedy was not an amnesty bill. Even Obama is against amnesty.


41 posted on 01/18/2011 12:46:11 PM PST by kabar
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To: pissant

ethanol...pork...medicare D...King is great(top 20) but NOT to the right of Pence.

King has said previously that he will support Pence for POTUS.(a lot can happen between then and now)


42 posted on 01/18/2011 12:49:06 PM PST by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: pissant

Pence would be behind Palin and Cain as far as I’m concerned.


43 posted on 01/18/2011 12:52:08 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: kabar

What made him come around? Reality that conservatives detested him for his limp-wristed “compromise”. He got a rash of sh*t from Hunter, Tanc, King, and all the real conservatives, as well as his constituents.


44 posted on 01/18/2011 12:52:22 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: t-dude

You’re right that when many conservatives split the vote, a RINO can win with a plurality — IF the primary is winner-take-all as in 2008.

I thought that was being changed, though, to provide more proportional splitting of delegates, like the Dems do, which would make a big difference. Will the 2012 primaries still be winner-take-all?


45 posted on 01/18/2011 1:08:45 PM PST by Eagle Forgotten
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To: Gipper08

They all have some flaws. Pence voted to extend unemployment benefits, King did not. Pence proposed a disastrous amnesty plan, King opposed it every step of the way. Pence voted to give billions to Mexico for its war on drugs. King said NO.

There is no way anyone can convince me that Pence is more conservative than King. Close, yeah. But that’s it.


46 posted on 01/18/2011 1:14:41 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: upsdriver

Has she ever named a single federal department or agency that she would get rid of?


47 posted on 01/18/2011 1:30:23 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
I don't expect it. I do think he would if he thought there was a groundswell for it but so far it hasn't happened and he likely won't go out and campaign for it.

I have no idea his name ID nationally but I would think it should be pretty good. He's certainly all over the TV. He and Bachmann are very good friends so I don't know what they have planned. Pence is also a friend.

Too bad I can't appoint the president. I keep saying I would pay to see the debate between King and "The Teleprompter".

48 posted on 01/18/2011 1:31:26 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: kabar

Yes, and I do understand that 100% of th eamensty pimpos like McCain, Graham, Palin, and even old Kennedy said that their amnesty was not amnesty. Pay a few shekels to become legal here, and voila, not amnesty. *barf*


49 posted on 01/18/2011 1:34:31 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: kabar

Try again:

Yes, and I do understand that 100% of the amnesty pimps like McCain, Graham, Palin, and even old Kennedy said that their amnesty was not amnesty. Pay a few shekels to become legal here, and voila, not amnesty. *barf*


50 posted on 01/18/2011 1:35:15 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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