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Rep. McCarthy Intros Bill to Ban High-Capacity Ammo Clips
ABC News Blog ^ | 1/18/11 | John R. Parkinson

Posted on 01/18/2011 4:01:18 PM PST by DarthVader

In the aftermath of the attempted murder of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords earlier this month, lawmakers on Capitol Hill have proposed a cluster of gun control measures ranging from a ban to knowingly carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of certain high-profile government officials to a proposal to allow members of Congress to carry firearms in the U.S. Capitol.

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy formally introduced her own bill on the House floor Tuesday that would ban high-capacity ammunition clips like the one Jared Loughner used to gun down 19 individuals in the Tucson shooting Jan. 8.

McCarthy, who is regarded as one of the toughest gun-control proponents on Capitol Hill, has dedicated her congressional service to reducing gun violence after a tragic incident in 1993 in which gunman Colin Ferguson unleashed a hail of bullets aboard a packed Long Island Railroad commuter train, and used 15-round magazines to kill six people, including McCarthy’s husband, and injured 19 more, including her son.

“I know what it’s like to have tragedy brought to your life in a split second by a madman with high-capacity ammunition magazines,” McCarthy said. “I’m working to stop it from happening again. We need comprehensive reform to reduce the number of people hurt or killed by gunfire in America, but one simple way we can do that is by keeping the worst tools of mass murder away from the general public. This nation has come together before to support this simple, commonsense measure, and it is the law in several states right now. It is a small sacrifice that law-abiding gun owners can make once again in order to increase everyone’s safety.”

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1 posted on 01/18/2011 4:01:23 PM PST by DarthVader
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To: DarthVader

Carolyn we will oppose you at every turn you despicable hag!


2 posted on 01/18/2011 4:03:14 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader

Piffle ... and I love your reply!


3 posted on 01/18/2011 4:04:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (An attack on Sarah Palin is an attack on me.)
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To: DarthVader

Sad little woman shouldn’t be holding elected office.


4 posted on 01/18/2011 4:04:45 PM PST by exnavy (May the Lord grant our troops protection and endurance.)
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To: DarthVader

IT’S NOT THE GUNS OR CLIPS. Shut down the criminal element....problem solved. Our country is turning into a criminal haven..........including Washington DC.


5 posted on 01/18/2011 4:05:24 PM PST by RC2
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To: DarthVader

Another braindead Democrat!!!


6 posted on 01/18/2011 4:05:59 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: DarthVader

15 rounds is high capacity? Bull.

Outlaw everything but muzzleloaders. I mean, if they were good enough to win the revolution, they’re good enough to protect us from a despotic central government. Right?


7 posted on 01/18/2011 4:10:09 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: RC2

The chief criminal element resides in the souls of LIBERAL politicians. We must continue to expose and vote them out. Cut off the head of the snake.


8 posted on 01/18/2011 4:11:07 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader

A better law would be to elected officials to be restricted from going within a 1000 feet of a gun. One unenforceable moronic gun law is as good as another. Or they can just read the constitution and follow what is says.


9 posted on 01/18/2011 4:13:43 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: DarthVader

Once you use your husband’s death to achieve power, all other acts of macabre opportunism are a piece of cake.

This woman is a human vulture.


10 posted on 01/18/2011 4:14:17 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: DarthVader

McCarthy, who is regarded as one of the toughest gun-control proponents on Capitol Hill, has dedicated her congressional service to reducing gun violence after a tragic incident in 1993 in which gunman Colin Ferguson unleashed a hail of bullets aboard a packed Long Island Railroad commuter train, and used 15-round magazines to kill six people, including McCarthy’s husband, and injured 19 more, including her son.

Exactly.

A great tragedy and at least two wasted lives - her husband’s and hers.

Instead of rationally attacking the kind of justice system which allows a guy like the maniac who killed her husband wander around in the first place and cheat justice by not hanging afterward, she has focused her entire life, her entire soul, brain and body on... sportsmen who legally own and employ guns and law abiding citizens who seek to defend themselves.

Ms. McCarthy appears to me to be a deeply disturbed person whose sense of logic has been warped by her personal tragedy.

Unfortunately, sinister elements in the Media and the Democrat Party to whom the Constitution and Bill of Rights are merely an inconvenient piece of paper obstructing the ability of the better class to control us lesser mortals have employed her for their own ends.


11 posted on 01/18/2011 4:14:20 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: DarthVader

Are we also going to ban SUV’s, because a schizophrenic can mow down more people using one of them in a crowded area than a smaller vehicle, and take out more people than Loughner did with his 9 mm.


12 posted on 01/18/2011 4:14:33 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: DarthVader

Why weren’t airplanes banned after 911.


13 posted on 01/18/2011 4:22:11 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: DarthVader
An exercise in liberal "feel good". A practiced gunman can carry many extra magazines and change them out in less than 2 seconds.

This bill accomplishes nothing more than ego stroking...
KNEEJERK
14 posted on 01/18/2011 4:22:18 PM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: DarthVader

To late.....

15 posted on 01/18/2011 4:22:51 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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Alright people, for the last time.



This is a "Clip" and...



This is a "Magazine" -- they are two entirely different things.


16 posted on 01/18/2011 4:24:44 PM PST by WaterBoard
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To: DarthVader

No way. The ammo clip is not the issue. As always, when the people are unarmed, then the criminals are the only ones armed.

It takes me less than 5 seconds to drop a ~9 round clip from my pistol and push in another. And with a pocket of them, I could be continually lethal for quite a while.


17 posted on 01/18/2011 4:24:56 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: DarthVader

Dianne Feinstein at an anti-tea party rally???

18 posted on 01/18/2011 4:26:36 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: DarthVader
McCarthy...has dedicated her congressional service to reducing gun violence...

Oh, please.

This vindictive woman has dedicated her "career" to punishing every gun owner in the United States, for the actions of one man: Colin Ferguson.

BTW During the 10 years of the so-called "assault weapons" ban (which also regulated magazines holding more than ten rounds), there was no shortage of "pre ban" high-capacity magazines.

And here's an FYI for the "journalists" out there:

"Clips" and "magazines" are not the same thing, and are not used for the same purpose.

A "clip" is used to charge/load a "magazine" with cartridges.

A "magazine" is a device which feeds cartridges into a firearm (usually via a spring-loaded follower).


19 posted on 01/18/2011 4:28:54 PM PST by holymoly
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To: WaterBoard

The same media idiots that can’t tell an AK47 from a shotgun are never, ever going to understand the distinction between a clip and a magazine.


20 posted on 01/18/2011 4:30:03 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: DarthVader
A marginally trained shooter can perform a magazine exchange on the move in less than 2 seconds. Had Loughner had any gun handling skills, it wouldn't matter what capacity magazine he carried: 33, 15 or crime bill compliant 10-rounders.

It's not about capacity. It's about victim disarmament. Libs want to transform every Arizona city into Tucson, and every American city into gun-free paradisos such as we have south of the border.

21 posted on 01/18/2011 4:30:11 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: DarthVader
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy formally introduced her own bill on the House floor Tuesday that would ban high-capacity ammunition clips like the one Jared Loughner used to gun down 19 individuals in the Tucson shooting Jan. 8.

Today it's clips and if left unchecked, tomorrow it's magazines.

22 posted on 01/18/2011 4:30:45 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...
...a tragic incident in 1993 in which gunman Colin Ferguson unleashed a hail of bullets aboard a packed Long Island Railroad commuter train, and used 15-round magazines to kill six people, including McCarthy's husband, and injured 19 more, including her son.

Colin Ferguson

23 posted on 01/18/2011 4:32:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Another braindead Democrat!!!

Redundancy will get you everywhere. ; )

24 posted on 01/18/2011 4:32:45 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

“Today it’s clips and if left unchecked, tomorrow it’s magazines.”

On the bright side Boehner will not allow these bills to get voted on. The sting of the economy will make this Tucson tragedy forgotten in about three - six weeks.


25 posted on 01/18/2011 4:33:31 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader

***Rep. Carolyn McCarthy formally introduced her own bill on the House floor Tuesday that would ban high-capacity ammunition clips like the one Jared Loughner used to gun down 19 individuals in the Tucson shooting Jan. 8. ***

From the LA Times....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0118-arizona-shooting-20110118,0,6095911.story?track=rss

“... one official who has had the video described to him in detail said it showed that Giffords was shot first, followed by U.S. District Judge John M. Roll, who was standing near Giffords. Roll, 63, Arizona’s senior federal judge, was killed.”

So, with ONLY a 10 round magazine Giffords would still have been shot, and Roll killed.

I did not find any info on how many others were killed with the first 10 rounds.


26 posted on 01/18/2011 4:34:17 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: DarthVader

Take the ammo clips away from them and they will use something else. Somewhere I read that a guy in Puerto Rico poured kerosene all over an entire wedding party and set them on fire with a blowtorch. Fourteen people were burned and five died.

In Kuwait, where it is harder to get guns and bullets, this happened in 2009: The wedding tent turned into an inferno as the ex-wife poured kerosene soaked in rags on the tent and set it aflame. The flimsy wedding tent burned down in just three minutes, and 41 wedding guests were charred so badly, the inferno left the bodies unrecognizable. Two other guests later died in the hospital bringing the death toll to 43 female wedding guests and 52 wedding guests still in the hospital with injuries and burns.

This tells me that if one wants to create death and carnage no law is going to stop them.

For those who do have guns with high capacity magazines, such a law will have a big impact on them. They will either have a useless gun, unable to use the magazine made for the gun, or will have to buy one that is legal. Such a law will hurt gun owners who just want to have a weapon.


27 posted on 01/18/2011 4:34:22 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: xzins

these folks are stunning dunces


28 posted on 01/18/2011 4:36:26 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: FrankR

29 posted on 01/18/2011 4:36:36 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: DarthVader
On the bright side Boehner will not allow these bills to get voted on. The sting of the economy will make this Tucson tragedy forgotten in about three - six weeks.

I could think of much more pleasing distractions to forget to.

You do have a good point however.

30 posted on 01/18/2011 4:37:45 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Carolyn knows this bill is going to go nowhere and is just trying to score points for the 2012 election.


31 posted on 01/18/2011 4:38:57 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader

You have to wonder why the writer would credit her for trying to “stop gun violence” but not give the statistics to show whether she is a success or failure.


32 posted on 01/18/2011 4:42:35 PM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: DarthVader

4 paragraphs and it doesn’t say her political party.

No bias there.


33 posted on 01/18/2011 4:44:24 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: SunkenCiv

***...a tragic incident in 1993 in which gunman Colin Ferguson unleashed a hail of bullets aboard a packed Long Island Railroad commuter train, and used 15-round magazines to kill six people, including McCarthy’s husband, and injured 19 more, including her son.****

Killed six? Only six people of all those packed in a train car like sardines?

Patrick Sherrell killed 14 with two .45 auto pistols loaded with 7 round magazines at the Edmond Oklahoma post office back in 1986.

These idiots believe only the bottom rounds in a magazine do the killing. What are the top 10 for, noise makers?


34 posted on 01/18/2011 4:47:03 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Outlaw everything but muzzleloaders.

I have three, one antique flintlock, one modern rifled barrel and one revolver.

35 posted on 01/18/2011 4:47:49 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: EQAndyBuzz

John Parkinson on Republicans:

During his Pen & Pad briefing on Jan. 4, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said the phrase “job killing” eight times over the course of the briefing.

Cantor, R-Virginia, used the term earlier this month to describe everything from “cutting the job killing regulations,” and “a job killing health care bill that spends money we don’t have,” to the Obama Administration’s “job killing agenda.”

Second Paragraph.

John Parkinson on Democrats;

McCarthy’s party is mentioned in the 5th paragraph after mentioning her name 4 previous times.


36 posted on 01/18/2011 4:48:15 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: DarthVader

Here is another thing to watch out for because you know how this works once they get something like this started.

Is Gun Liability Insurance the Next Big Thing?

http://www.insureme.com/insurance/potential-insurance-mandate-has-gun-owners-sweating-bullets


37 posted on 01/18/2011 4:48:25 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: DarthVader

I guess the media will be calling this bill symbolic also


38 posted on 01/18/2011 4:49:25 PM PST by italianquaker ( teabag the vote!!)
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To: DarthVader
Carolyn we will oppose you at every turn you despicable hag!

Thanks to last November, Ms. Carolyn will never get her bill to committee.

39 posted on 01/18/2011 4:49:39 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: EQAndyBuzz
4 paragraphs and it doesn’t say her political party.

Socialist party?

What is my prize.

40 posted on 01/18/2011 4:49:56 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: DarthVader
Rep. McCarthy Intros Bill to Ban High-Capacity Ammo Clips

As long as they don't mess with our Hi-Cap magazines they can have all the Hi-Cap clips they can find.


41 posted on 01/18/2011 4:54:17 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: DarthVader

Wouldn’t it make more sense ot ban Jamaicans who hate Americans? McCarthy loves illegal aliens but hates guns. For her, the gun shot her husband and son.


42 posted on 01/18/2011 4:54:48 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: DarthVader

Rats! Just when the price of good quality mags was becoming reasonable again.


43 posted on 01/18/2011 4:56:52 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: SeeSac

A pair of muzzle loading cap and ball revolvers could still give someone 12 deadly rounds to fire.


44 posted on 01/18/2011 4:59:31 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: DarthVader

45 posted on 01/18/2011 5:01:00 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: DarthVader
Carolyn McCarthy

"..On December 7, 1993, her husband, Dennis, was killed and her son, Kevin, severely injured, on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train at the Merillon Avenue station, when a mass murderer, Colin Ferguson, opened fire on random unarmed passengers.[4] Ferguson killed six and wounded 19 others.[5] McCarthy responded to the crime by launching a campaign for additional gun control that eventually propelled her to Congress in 1996 on the Democratic ticket..."

McCarthy is just doing what got her elected. In this case it could have been worse if extended magazines were not involved. I have heard it reported the magazine spring failed in the second magazine and it was also an extended magazine.

Arizona Rampage Could Have Been 'Catastrophe' if Gunman Had Been Able to Reload

".."fortunately the spring and the magazine failed" and two other civilians were able to get the weapon away from him and subdue him until the police came, Dupnik said.

Each magazine contained 31 bullets, Dupnik said,.."

If the shooter used two regular magazines that worked he would have had more shots.

46 posted on 01/18/2011 5:07:29 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: DarthVader

Carolyn the communist vulture who has made a congressional career standing on her husband’s grave. Guess she isn’t done picking through the carcass yet....


47 posted on 01/18/2011 5:08:43 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: DarthVader

Could someone introduce a bill to ban this lunatic witch?


48 posted on 01/18/2011 5:14:52 PM PST by Fudd Fan (Sarah's calling it "blood libel" is spot-on.)
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To: DarthVader

Her husband was killed by a lunatic black man who hated white people.

Maybe we should ban lunatic black men who hate white people.

What the hell, Joe Biden has plenty of time on his hands anyway....


49 posted on 01/18/2011 5:18:41 PM PST by dblup
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To: maddog55

The dumbass senator has her finger on the trigger!! She has no clue!!


50 posted on 01/18/2011 5:20:07 PM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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