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Posted on 01/19/2011 5:52:29 AM PST by spirited irish
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Yes, we do win. Amen.
I’m sorry but that is a sad way to go through life.
Jesus said HE was THE Way, THE Truth and THE life. Not “A” Way. So, either He was telling the truth, and Christianity is the ONLY way, or He was lying.
It can’t be both.
BTW, I despise ‘organized religion’, been there, done that, but a relationship with Jesus Christ doesn’t necessarily equal organized religion (denominational-ism).
Have to read later when I wake up more.
Jesus also explicitly made a claim to divinity.
So either He IS God, or he’s a lunatic or a very wicked man.
There is no middle ground of
“He was a good teacher and lived to provide an example.”
I believe God is capable of anything, so it can be multiple ways...just depends on what He has planned for you.
“Now you hear a lot of jokes about silent Cal Coolidge,but I think the joke is on the people that make jokes because if you look at his record , he cut taxes four times.We had probably the greatest growth and prosperity that we've ever known. And I have taken heed of that because if he did nothing,maybe that's the answer[for] the federal government.”
wow.. love that graphic. Some favorites of mine. what was this from do you know?
Not being sure of anything. Universalism is all ‘feel good’, every thing will work out for the best, no Hell, no punishment, just New Age karma.
That isn’t how God works.
Again, you did not respond. Do you think Jesus is a liar? Or was He telling the truth?
It cannot be both.
Unlike you, I do not know how God works, I just have a belief.
If that is what He really said, then I believe it was the truth for Christians.
Obviously, I believe it can be both.
Just because you believe something, does not make it true or logical.
That is the problem with Universalism, logical fallacies.
Truth is absolute, not relative. If it were, then Liberals would be just as ‘right’ as conservatives. Liberalism must be ‘true’ for them. Right?
I’m sorry ,but you must have me confused with someone else.
The Bible tells us how God works. It isn’t my personal knowledge, it is because the Bible says so.
I gave up the idea of ‘personal revelation’ over the Bible when I left Mormonism.
I was responding to Stuartcr, and commenting on your comment with MrB.
“Personal revelation” just means defining God, morality, right and wrong, and good and evil for yourself as you judge to be fit.
Somewhere I read something about a famous personage saying we could do this...
oh, yeah, Genesis 3:5. Satan. “you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”
Far more often than not that is exactly what it amounts to.
Do I believe God can speak to me through His word? Of course, but if what I believe counters the Bible then it is not from God.
That’s what I’ve said as well.
It doesn’t matter how strongly I believe something.
If the Bible contradicts my belief, _I_ am wrong. It’s not.
That’s what “ultimate authority” means.
Yes, I know. Since I could be either right or wrong or in-between, I go with what I believe God put in me. I don’t believe what we are limited to with human logic, can be applied to understanding God though.
I believe truth as we know it, is only absolute to the individual.
And, as a believer in the bible, I’m sure that’s good for you.
Exactly. It was a lesson I had to learn in a very painful way.
I will pray for you, you have no idea how deadly your views are.
It really is sad, to go thorough life with no absolutes.
I guess for you and those that need absolutes to apply to everyone, it could be sad. Although I don’t know why.
As I said, I believe we all have absolutes, it’s just that they are individual. Thanks for the prayers though.
As I said, I believe we all have absolutes, its just that they are individual.
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So, liberalism is just as valid as conservatism? It is just individual absolutes right?
Abortion is ok? Murder? Stealing? Satanism?
Umm... have you ever read a book on logic?
I am no universalist.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder
. Paul tells us if a man be overtaken in a fault to restore such a one in a spirit of meekness considering yourself lest you also be tempted .I agree there are many false and heretical doctrines out there. In this I agree with John Locke
“Everyman thinks he is orthodox”
On a good day I see through a glass darkly.Any man who say’s he doesn’t sin is a liar and the truth is not in him.I get it wrong often.
2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
Let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall.
Paul the Apostle
I do know Jesus is the way
1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
1Co 16:23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
I know you are not a universalist. Stuart apparently is, and he was the first one in the reply.
I was agreeing with you. No chip at all. We are on the same side.
I don’t know what the people that commit those acts think. To me they aren’t ok.
As I stated numerous times before, I do not believe what we hold as logical, can be applied to these subjects.
So you oppose them for no reason? Or do you not oppose them at all?
If it is ok for them, then it should be fine right?
No moral absolutes.
But you can’t judge them as wrong.
Their “absolutes” could be different from yours,
and neither yours nor theirs could be judged as
“better” or “worse” without an objective, external, and absolute standard to refer to.
You make yourself into a moral cretin with this worldview.
I oppose them because that is the way I am. People still have to obey laws, even if they think it’s ok to do something illegal, don’t they?
Thank you so much for the ping to this engaging essay!
I don’t judge them at all. That is why we have laws.
WAY too many “ISM’s” for me!
Youre gonna have to work REALLY HARD to make sure your good stuff balances out your bad stuff...
Seems weve done what is required...
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
Abortion is legal? Do you oppose that?
Can this GOD you imagine use CONFLICTING ways to accomplish his ends?
"Pete; it's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart."
You'd make a poor MORMON!
It’s never been much of an issue with me. I can see how it would be ok in some instances.
Not to worry; that is where their god has put them; absolutely.
I don’t believe that God sees things the same way we do. What we may conceive of as a conflict, may not be to Him. I think we are very limited in knowing the ways of God.
Sad. Very Sad.
Do you consider yourself a libertarian, then?
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