Skip to comments.SHOT Show: Kel-Tec KSG Bullpup Shotgun Explained
Posted on 01/19/2011 7:05:32 PM PST by marktwain
Kel-Tecs KSG is a SHOT Show stopper, with crowds hovering over the bullpup like disaster victims over Red Cross food supplies. OK, maybe not that desperately. But theres no question that Kel-Tec will sell every one of their 1000-unit initial run of their space-saving man stopper. The company says theyre aiming to produce 5000 units in 2011. With law enforcement types sniffing around, theres every chance theyll ramp up from there. Firearms fans familiar with the Kel-Tec brand will cross their fingers on the quality front. We can report that the guns fit and finish look fine. Though that chamber selector is a bit far back for my tastes (video after the jump), the ergonomics are sound. It looks crazy, but the $880 msrp KSG just might work . .
Kel-Tecs thinking about putting holes in the barrels near the grip so owners can see if a given tubes empty. At the moment, theres only one way to tell if a chambers empty: CLICK. And one way to tell if the guns empty: turn it over and look for the followers (neither a follower nor a negligent discharger be).
I really like that. Only.....Kel Tec inspires no confidence in quality. Maybe they have improved or changed. I haven’t followed them.
The shotgun look cool though.
I’m intrigued. Wish it was semi-automatic.
I can’t speak for the KSG, but I’ve had an SU-16c for a while now and it has never malfunctioned. The SU is a great lightweight rifle. Having said that, I have heard of some issues with their pistols.
MAybe they will make a semi-auto version of it in the future.
That would make it even better.
Only available in 12 Ga. — or in 20 Ga. too?
LISTEN TO ME, BUY ONLY QUALITY FIREARMS. Might cost a little more, but in the long run you wont be dissappointed.
If it is as good as the SU then you won’t be sorry.
Yeah, cool looking rifle, but the vids on YouBoob show some FTFs it appears, this guy (see below) had to pull the charge handle after a few rounds, and the thing only spits brass after a few rounds have been fired, sometimes. WTF is up with that? Doesn’t appear to be real consistent on that point. Plus, inserting mags looks awkward.
I’m no rifle expert, now do I play one on FR, but there are weird things afoot with this piece, it would appear.
They lower price models aren't all heirloom pieces but they are a lot of gun for the money.
Kel-Tec seems to have a good reputation for standing behind their warranty.
I have fired a friend's Kel-Tec Sub-2000 in 40 S&W - a lot of practice rounds and no misfires or jams to date.
Weighs only 4 pounds, folds up to only 16" in length. Fits in a briefcase or under the drivers seat.
Available for less than $300 new last time I looked.
Here is more info on the Kel-Tec KSG Bullpup:
January 3, 2011
Kel-Tecs newest revolutionary bull-pup design was announced over the weekend on the cover of the NSSFs Shooting Industry magazine. Details of the new shotgun are sketchy, but presumably all will be made known at the upcoming NSSF SHOT Show.
The shotgun bears a stunning resemblance to the South African designed Neostead pump action scattergun. The operator is able to move a switch located near the top of the grip to select the right or left tube, or move the switch to the center to eject a shell without chambering another round. The bull-pup design results in an overall length of only 26″ with an 18.5″ barrel while the bottom eject design makes the firearm truly ambidextrous.
Shown next to the box of slugs in the photo to the left, you truly begin to get a sense of scale. The bull-pup design of the KSG makes it ideal for home defense and CQB. The incredibly short overall length makes it more nimble than a sawed off shotgun, and with a 14+1 capacity you dont sacrifice ammunition capacity to get a shotty in a small package.
Ammunition capacity is 14+1 with 2 3/4″ shells. The KSG is shown with a factory installed Picatinny rail with flip up sights and a pistol grip. MSRP is not known at the moment, nor is there an expected date of availability.
Oh yeah, back to the shotgun, I think it looks very coolish, would love to shoot one. How do the twin tube mags load? I couldn’t hear what the guy in the vid was saying.
Hey, thanks for the pictures, info, and link. I think I will save up for when the shotgun comes out. My last shotgun was a Remington 870 but that was years ago.
And, at under $300 I might give their carbine a look see if a local gun store has one.
Comes with baby violin case?
They usually start building the hype, drag their heels about getting it made, start selling the new gun, problems start cropping up, then apologize for not de-bugging it BEFORE releasing it for sale. In the meantime, they're making improvements along the way. No thanks, I'll wait til it's right.
That being said, if you do get a malfuntioning weapon, their customer service is outstanding. And, I like my P3AT.
I'm waiting for them to get the kinks worked out of their new PMR-30 pistol (pistol in 22 Magnum, 30 round
This video shows a cutaway RFB so you can see the ejection system.
Basically the spent brass is ejected forward on a chute. If you tilted the barrel down each spend round would fall out of the chute. If you keep the weapon level, it may take a couple of rounds before the first one is knocked all the way down the chute and out of the ejection port. But there is a flap that the brass passes through that prevents spent brass in the chute from jamming the action, so no worries.
Kel Tec RFB Cutaway Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLO7rHjHerk
Well, I like the concept, but I was puzzled by the ejections of spent barassos.
Interesting, would love to shoot that rifle or the bullpup shotgun. Looks very much like a couple of cool weapons.
Hell, I’ll buy the ammo, lammy shoot them bad boys.
I have a couple of friends who own the Sub-2000 and they love them. They pop ground hogs and coyotes out to 100 yards with the .40 caliber version. I hope that they come out with one that accepts M&P mags soon. If not, I may have to buy one that takes the Glock mags before long.
The .22 ammo costs a lot less than the .223 I use in my AR-15, so I thought it would be a good Range gun.
Anyone here have an opinion on the gun? I'd appreciate the input.
My Sub 2000 in 9mm takes Glock mags, or the Korean clones which work just fine. I had a soft-sider briefcase that held the weapon, three 33 round mags and one 17 round mag in the weapon. Lots of fun to shoot, accurate on sils out to fifty yards, and cycles everything including hollow points that I’ve fed it.
What happens when you shoot up a hill/mountain side? Can the expended brass slide back and interfere with the action?
I saw and handled KelTek’s new 15 shot shotgun today at the show, very innovative and the quality is fine. In fact, all KelTek products go bang when you really need one to shoot. The actual retail price will be less once the initial rush to own one lessens.
Just noticing all the protrusions on the slide, thinking that’s not one to be putting in your jacket pocket. It requires a holster for carrying.
>>Basically the spent brass is ejected forward on a chute.<<
Would it function properly if you were shooting at someone who was above you?
Absolutely. The force to strip and load a new round, and lock the bolt, is much greater than the force needed to shove an empty brass case against a stack of empty cases.
And as I said, there is a flap that the empty brass passes through to prevent the brass from sliding back and jamming the bolt mechanism.
I’m thinking if an ejected (A)round could slide back and the next ejection(B) would be under the previous one(A).
You'll notice that as the last round is fired and the bolt locks open, one empty brass case slides back, hits the stop, then slides forward a bit again. That prevents what you're afraid of.
A 30rd handgun eh? I might have to get one of those...
Thanks for digging out the video.
Not bad for $415...
I like the length, though can’t justify the expense considering I have my Mossberg 590. That said, my Keltec Sub 2000 has been flawless.
I couldn’t count it.
What’s going to happen when Congress bans the 30 round mag? Or will that be for Glocks only?
I’d love to shoot a round of skeet with it. The closest I’ve come to that was a Stevens 520 riot gun I dragged to the range once.