Posted on 01/19/2011 7:05:32 PM PST by marktwain
Kel-Tec’s KSG is a SHOT Show stopper, with crowds hovering over the bullpup like disaster victims over Red Cross food supplies. OK, maybe not that desperately. But there’s no question that Kel-Tec will sell every one of their 1000-unit initial run of their space-saving man stopper. The company says they’re aiming to produce 5000 units in 2011. With law enforcement types sniffing around, there’s every chance they’ll ramp up from there. Firearms fans familiar with the Kel-Tec brand will cross their fingers on the quality front. We can report that the gun’s fit and finish look fine. Though that chamber selector is a bit far back for my tastes (video after the jump), the ergonomics are sound. It looks crazy, but the $880 msrp KSG just might work . .
Kel-Tec’s thinking about putting holes in the barrels near the grip so owners can see if a given tube’s empty. At the moment, there’s only one way to tell if a chamber’s empty: CLICK. And one way to tell if the gun’s empty: turn it over and look for the followers (neither a follower nor a negligent discharger be).
Well, I like the concept, but I was puzzled by the ejections of spent barassos.
Interesting, would love to shoot that rifle or the bullpup shotgun. Looks very much like a couple of cool weapons.
Hell, I’ll buy the ammo, lammy shoot them bad boys.
I have a couple of friends who own the Sub-2000 and they love them. They pop ground hogs and coyotes out to 100 yards with the .40 caliber version. I hope that they come out with one that accepts M&P mags soon. If not, I may have to buy one that takes the Glock mags before long.
The .22 ammo costs a lot less than the .223 I use in my AR-15, so I thought it would be a good Range gun.
Anyone here have an opinion on the gun? I'd appreciate the input.
My Sub 2000 in 9mm takes Glock mags, or the Korean clones which work just fine. I had a soft-sider briefcase that held the weapon, three 33 round mags and one 17 round mag in the weapon. Lots of fun to shoot, accurate on sils out to fifty yards, and cycles everything including hollow points that I’ve fed it.
What happens when you shoot up a hill/mountain side? Can the expended brass slide back and interfere with the action?
I saw and handled KelTek’s new 15 shot shotgun today at the show, very innovative and the quality is fine. In fact, all KelTek products go bang when you really need one to shoot. The actual retail price will be less once the initial rush to own one lessens.
Just noticing all the protrusions on the slide, thinking that’s not one to be putting in your jacket pocket. It requires a holster for carrying.
>>Basically the spent brass is ejected forward on a chute.<<
Would it function properly if you were shooting at someone who was above you?
Absolutely. The force to strip and load a new round, and lock the bolt, is much greater than the force needed to shove an empty brass case against a stack of empty cases.
And as I said, there is a flap that the empty brass passes through to prevent the brass from sliding back and jamming the bolt mechanism.
I’m thinking if an ejected (A)round could slide back and the next ejection(B) would be under the previous one(A).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLO7rHjHerk
You'll notice that as the last round is fired and the bolt locks open, one empty brass case slides back, hits the stop, then slides forward a bit again. That prevents what you're afraid of.
A 30rd handgun eh? I might have to get one of those...
Thanks for digging out the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CTizq4NCto&feature=related
Not bad for $415...
I like the length, though can’t justify the expense considering I have my Mossberg 590. That said, my Keltec Sub 2000 has been flawless.
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