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FLIGHT ADVISORY: GPS Testing [spooky timing?]
Federal Aviation Administration ^ | January 19, 2011 | Anonymous

Posted on 01/19/2011 8:23:34 PM PST by backwoods-engineer

FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION FLIGHT ADVISORY GPS Testing CSFTL GPS 11-01

January 20-February 11, 2011 February 15-February 22, 2011

Brunswick, GA The Department of Defense will conduct GPS tests on January 20th through February 22nd, 2011. During testing, the GPS signal may be unreliable or unavailable.

A. Location: Centered at 304906N/0802811W or the location know as 105.25 degrees and 52.1 NM from the SSI VOR.

B. Dates and times: GPS testing is scheduled on January 20th through February 11th, 2011 from 0000-0245 UTC daily and February 15th through February 22nd, 2011 from 0000-0245 UTC daily. These tests may not be concurrent so pilots are advised to check NOTAMS frequently for possible changes prior to operating in the area.

(Excerpt) Read more at faasafety.gov ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Technical; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: civil; gps; militia; tinfoil
An aviator friend passed this along. This puts chills up my spine.

a) Why test a complete blackout of GPS over a populated area that encompasses 5 southern states? What plans does the Obama regime have that includes blanking out GPS in the South, or anywhere else?

b) Hu Jintao just had his big meeting with 0bama. Connections?

c) This notice was to aviators. People who own automotive and outdoor GPS's may never get word of the outage until it happens.

d) This is a huge inconvenience to land and water navigation. What is so urgent that this needs to be done now?

e) Why can't the test be done offshore somewhere?

It's creeping me out, FRiends. We may be closer to the balloon going up than we think.

Y'all calm me down, OK?

1 posted on 01/19/2011 8:23:37 PM PST by backwoods-engineer
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To: backwoods-engineer

Not knowing what else to say, PING!


2 posted on 01/19/2011 8:27:35 PM PST by elpinta (John 17:3)
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To: backwoods-engineer

That test area is centered on an area the US Navy uses very regularly for operational testing. They may want to see how ships, aircraft and systems function when GPS is not available.


3 posted on 01/19/2011 8:32:18 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Thats why I always keep maps in my glove compartment.


4 posted on 01/19/2011 8:32:33 PM PST by Husker24
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To: backwoods-engineer
What is so urgent that this needs to be done now?

The mothership is on final.

It would tick me off too if I was expecting to use my trail GPSs to get back to the car, although occasionally neither one will acquire a lock for no obvious reason.

5 posted on 01/19/2011 8:32:50 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Husker24
Thats why I always keep maps in my glove compartment.

It's important to be prepared, that's for sure.

6 posted on 01/19/2011 8:34:30 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
That test area is centered on an area the US Navy uses very regularly for operational testing. They may want to see how ships, aircraft and systems function when GPS is not available.

That must be very inconvenient for Georgians & South Carolinians. I am all for troop preparedness, but GPS has become an important civil navigation tool. They can simulate radar outage; why not simulate GPS outage?

7 posted on 01/19/2011 8:36:12 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: steve86
The mothership is on final.

LOL! I'll try not to pull the tinfoil hat down TOO tight!

Seriously, don't you wonder about the timing? With this regime, I wonder if ANYTHING is accidental.

8 posted on 01/19/2011 8:37:43 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Don’t worry. Wherever you go, there you are.


9 posted on 01/19/2011 8:39:03 PM PST by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

What does your reference to the balloon going up mean?

Thanks!


10 posted on 01/19/2011 8:39:40 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Tomorrow, the first day of the outage there is to be a big launch from Vandenberg at 1308 PST. It's supposed to be an NRO bird.
11 posted on 01/19/2011 8:43:20 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 729 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: roses of sharon
What does your reference to the balloon going up mean?

In general, "the balloon going up" refers to the start of a war or battle. In this case, I'm referring to my belief that under certain circumstances, the 0bama regime and Soros or whoever controls him could decide that a "false flag operation" leading to civil unrest and perhaps martial law could suit their purposes, to wit: maintaining control and power over the US population.

12 posted on 01/19/2011 8:43:40 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: elpinta

“Why test a complete blackout of GPS over a populated area that encompasses 5 southern states?”

For what it’s worth, this site: http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?p=760241 says they already started testing on the west coast.

I don’t now, but it all may have something to do with the old GPS satellites coming to the end of their operational life, launching a couple of new satellites, developing work arounds, and so forth.


13 posted on 01/19/2011 8:44:56 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: WhatNot
Up here I'm already there.


14 posted on 01/19/2011 8:45:01 PM PST by OCC
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To: null and void
Tomorrow, the first day of the outage there is to be a big launch from Vandenberg at 1308 PST. It's supposed to be an NRO bird.

That might make sense: disabling GPS over an area corresponding to a vulnerable regime of flight for the booster rocket and satellite, to prevent GPS-guided missiles from taking out a key spy satellite asset on its way up.

Is there any way to verify the launch trajectory? I think they would want to go east to take advantage of the Earth's added rotational velocity, so flying over the SE US is not out of the realm of possibility.

You may be onto something.

15 posted on 01/19/2011 8:47:02 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
For those in the know, the Coast Guard maintains a handy site for things like this.

Their Local Notice to Mariners link states:

GPS SIGNAL TESTING
DUE TO TESTING ON GPS FREQUENCIES USED IN SHIPBOARD NAVIGATION AND HANDHELD SYSTEMS. GPS SYSTEMS THAT RELY ON GPS, SUCH AS E-911, AIS AND DSC, MAY BE AFFECTED WITHIN A 150 NM RADIUS OF POSITION 30 49.09N 80 28.18W. DURING THIS PERIOD GPS USERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT ANY GPS SERVICE OUTAGES THAT THEY MAY EXPERIENCE DURING THIS TESTING VIA THE NAVIGATION INFORMATION SERVICE (NIS) BY CALLING (703) 313-5900 OR BY USING THE NAVCEN WEB SITE'S GPS REPORT A PROBLEM WORKSHEET AT WWW.NAVCEN.USCG.GOV.

16 posted on 01/19/2011 8:48:53 PM PST by r9etb
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To: backwoods-engineer
Is there any way to verify the launch trajectory? I think they would want to go east to take advantage of the Earth's added rotational velocity, so flying over the SE US is not out of the realm of possibility.

They don't launch eastward out of Vandenberg.

17 posted on 01/19/2011 8:50:05 PM PST by r9etb
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To: backwoods-engineer

Are they disabling only the civil GPS or civil+encrypted military?


18 posted on 01/19/2011 8:50:14 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
Are they disabling only the civil GPS or civil+encrypted military?

The NOTAM indicates that aviation GPS will be out, which uses the civil signal. My guess is that they are jamming both signals.

19 posted on 01/19/2011 8:54:38 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: r9etb
They don't launch eastward out of Vandenberg.

Okay, that takes away the connection to the NRO bird. Next?

20 posted on 01/19/2011 8:55:33 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Most navigation receivers these days can switch over to GLONASS if GPS is impaired. No biggie.


21 posted on 01/19/2011 8:58:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: roses of sharon

Civil War term, the Union started using gas filed Balloons for observation. Pretty soon the Confederates noticed that when the balloon went up, shortly thereafter the Yankees would attack.
So the term ‘ The Balloons Going Up “ meant to get ready for some bad s4!t to happen.


22 posted on 01/19/2011 9:20:23 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Are they turning off the GPS satellite signal or are they jamming it? Maybe they’re testing some kind of jamming equipment so they can prevent a GPS missle from finding its’ target if shot from a stealth Chinese missile boat.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=30.4906,-80.2811&aq=&sll=30.4906,-80.2811&sspn=1.429491,4.394531&g=30.49060,-80.2811&ie=UTF8&ll=30.278044,-81.309814&spn=2.86508,8.789062&t=h&z=7

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2660089/posts


23 posted on 01/19/2011 9:25:44 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

There’s a much easier way to do this. See how they navigate without GPS! My Dad helped invent GPS in the 60s and 70s. His system was called TIMATION for TIMe navigATION.


24 posted on 01/19/2011 9:28:31 PM PST by Richard from IL
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To: backwoods-engineer
That might make sense: disabling GPS over an area corresponding to a vulnerable regime of flight for the booster rocket and satellite, to prevent GPS-guided missiles from taking out a key spy satellite asset on its way up.

The booster pretty quickly leaves the vulnerable regime of flight. If a terrorist wants to destroy it, the best place to do it is on the ground. At least the target isn't moving. Once it takes flight, though, very few countries have the technology "to hit one bullet with another," and none of them would be overly concerned about yet another spy satellite.

Also, GPS guidance is of no use unless the target transmits its GPS position to the interceptor. I very much doubt that this is the case. To my knowledge, none of antimissile interceptors rely upon such a help from the target. Instead they use radars (internal and remote) and various other sensors.

IMO, the theory that they are going to be switching satellites over is the most likely explanation.

25 posted on 01/19/2011 9:36:13 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Husker24

Who needs maps when I can just bring Mrs. BCC along to make me stop and ask for directions?

That is IF I was ever loose my way...for the very first time...ever.


26 posted on 01/19/2011 9:52:50 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Be instrumental in the REVIVAL that will heal our land. ><BCC>)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Seriously, don't you wonder about the timing? With this regime, I wonder if ANYTHING is accidental.

Apparently this isn't accidental...:

Laser pointings soar; O'Hare. LAX top list

Snip: More than 100 incidents occurred at Los Angeles International Airport last year in which the safety of planes was put at risk by people pointing at them with lasers, and nearly as many incidents at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, federal officials said Wednesday.

27 posted on 01/19/2011 10:26:31 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: backwoods-engineer
Tomorrow, the first day of the outage there is to be a big launch from Vandenberg at 1308 PST. It's supposed to be an NRO bird.

That might make sense: disabling GPS over an area corresponding to a vulnerable regime of flight for the booster rocket and satellite, to prevent GPS-guided missiles from taking out a key spy satellite asset on its way up.

Is there any way to verify the launch trajectory? I think they would want to go east to take advantage of the Earth's added rotational velocity, so flying over the SE US is not out of the realm of possibility.

Vandenberg is in Southern California--pretty far away from the East coast.

Launches from Vandenberg always go North -- into polar orbit. If they went East, they would fly over populated areas, a safety problem.

Launches which go East originate at Kennedy, in Florida. East of Florida is lots of ocean.

28 posted on 01/19/2011 10:27:08 PM PST by CurlyDave
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