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Goodbye civility as Rep. Steve Cohen says Republicans lie like the Nazis
The Commercial Appeal ^ | 1/19/11 | Bartholomew Sullivan

Posted on 01/20/2011 6:18:39 AM PST by GailA

They don’t like the truth, so they summarily dismiss it,” he says. “They say it’s a government takeover of health care — a big lie. Just like Goebbels. You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually people believe it. Like ‘blood libel,’’’ he said, pounding his fist on the dais.

“That’s the same kind of thing. The Germans said enough about the Jews and the people believed it and you had the Holocaust. You tell a lie over and over again. And we’ve heard it on this floor — ‘government takeover of health care.’ ”

“... There is no government takeover,” he said.

Cohen’s reference to “blood libel” follows former Alaska governor Sarah Palin’s use of the term to describe attacks on her from left-leaning pundits after the Tucson massacre earlier this month.

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This from a man who votes for GENOCIDE of babies in the womb.
1 posted on 01/20/2011 6:18:41 AM PST by GailA
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To: GailA

Civility = libspeak for gagging conservatives.

But they’re free to up the vitriol and the MSM ignores it!


2 posted on 01/20/2011 6:21:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: GailA; fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead; nutmeg

House Dem compares GOP health care case to Nazi propaganda

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/19/5878241-house-dem-compares-gop-health-care-case-to-nazi-propaganda

Say What? Democrat Compares Republicans to Nazis
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/01/abc-news-jonathan-karl-reports-the-newfound-civility-didnt-last-long-political-rhetoric-in-congress-doesnt-get-much.html

ABC News Jonathan Karl reports: The newfound civility didn’t last long. Political rhetoric in Congress doesn’t get much nastier than the words of one House Democrat during the debate on repealing the health care law.

In an extraordinary outburst on the House floor, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) invoked the Holocaust to attack Republicans on health care and compared rhetoric on the issue to the work of infamous Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.

“They say it’s a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels,” Cohen said. “You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That’s the same kind of thing. And Congressman Cohen didn’t stop there.

“The Germans said enough about the Jews and people believed it—believed it and you have the Holocaust. We heard on this floor, government takeover of health care. Politifact said the biggest lie of 2010 was a government takeover of health care because there is no government takeover,” Cohen said.
Cohen made his comments late last night, but they have attracted no attention because his speech was made to a virtually empty House chamber with no reporters around to watch.

Democratic lawmaker compares GOP health law claims to Nazi ‘lies’

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/138805-democratic-lawmaker-compares-gop-health-law-claims-to-nazi-lies

VIDEO ON THIS ONE
House Democrat Compares GOP To Nazis In Health Repeal Debate (video)

http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/01

(D-TN) Rep. Steve Cohen stands by ‘Nazi’ comments
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2659984/posts


3 posted on 01/20/2011 6:21:39 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: GailA

Charlotte would not have that for sure!


4 posted on 01/20/2011 6:21:46 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Memo to Mitt Romney: Just go away.............)
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To: GailA

Projection from a typical Democrat. Anything a Dem claims a Republican does is a reflection of themselves, and what they do.


5 posted on 01/20/2011 6:21:46 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: GailA

Ahhh! The classic “I know you are, but what am I?” defense.

We ALL know these are Alinsky tactics!


6 posted on 01/20/2011 6:22:04 AM PST by marstegreg
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To: rockinqsranch

Yup... they demand decency and restraint from others but as usual it doesn’t apply to them. The end justifies the means.


7 posted on 01/20/2011 6:23:26 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: GailA

The right needs to come back HARD on this. Cohen’s outburst means one of two things. Either Obama has lost control of his party members in congress as they have apparently completely disregarded his call for civility, or bambi’s speech was given with a tacit nod and a wink knowing that he wasn’t really serious. Well Gibbs, which is it?


8 posted on 01/20/2011 6:23:53 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GailA
Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) reminds me of those voluntary Jewish Zonder Kommandos back in WWII.

Just something about him.

No, not talking about the "involuntary" folks ~ just the real weirdos who actually volunteered for it imagining they'd be killed last or something.

9 posted on 01/20/2011 6:24:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: GailA
On the day of the opening of the new congress he gave a one minute speech to complain about the reading of the constitution.

The moron wants to talk about nazis but doesn't have the manhood to acknowledge that the nazis learned their tactics from 1920s American progressives like Bernays, Lippman and others. Goebbels took pride in his copy of "Crystallizing public opinion" by Edward Bernays.

Goebbels was using my book Crystallizing Public Opinion as a basis for his destructive campaign against the Jews of Germany. This shocked me.

—Edward Bernays (1965)
10 posted on 01/20/2011 6:24:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rockinqsranch

I bet if you asked this guy whether moral absolutes existed,
he’d deny it.

So, why were the Nazis “bad”? Weren’t their standards just “different”? How are your standards “better”?

It is so easy to make a post-modern liberal spin in circles with their moral relativism.


11 posted on 01/20/2011 6:25:07 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...

This Steve Cohen dipshit sure is getting more than his share of airtime for his asshat comments.

Another all-too-common pulpy, brainwashed little wimp, saturated in his own ignorance and arrogance, who couldn't beat his way out of a wet paper bag. Yet another living example of how far our Republic has fallen.

12 posted on 01/20/2011 6:25:20 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: GailA

This guy should be sanctioned and forced to make an apology. We must use their rules against them. Either the Left will be embarrassed or they will stand up for this guy by demanding free speech rights.
Either way, we win. The Left will tire of being forced to live up to their own standards or they will be forced to support free speech and we will keep them to that standard.


13 posted on 01/20/2011 6:28:16 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: goldstategop

But they’re free to up the vitriol and the MSM ignores it!

I wish something could be done about the main stream media. They are completely biased but as long as it suits the leftists/socuialists/communists nothing is said. Yet Fox News is constantly being attacked because it is more balanced.


14 posted on 01/20/2011 6:28:48 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Joe Brower

Looks like a typical, frumpy, disheveled communist apparatchik.


15 posted on 01/20/2011 6:28:59 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: GailA

The guy is a certifiable wack-a-doodle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiOpEpGAhHM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxkdWQG5ETU&NR=1


16 posted on 01/20/2011 6:32:35 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: Joe Brower

He’s never been the same he wasn’t allowed to join the CBC!


17 posted on 01/20/2011 6:33:45 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: GailA

Classic case of Marxist argument. Accuse others of what you do (or are). When or if the Republican party becomes the socialist workers party and openly advocates for goverment take over of health care then they can be compared to NAZIs...just like what the socialist Dems are doing.


18 posted on 01/20/2011 6:34:08 AM PST by Durus (The distance between us has grown, and I struggle to quantify it. Windage adjustments are done.)
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To: GailA

I think you are misinterpreting. He’s telling fellow libs HOW THEY DO THINGS. Read it again with that in mind!


19 posted on 01/20/2011 6:34:43 AM PST by jdsteel (I like the way the words "Palin for President" drive progressives absolutely crazy.)
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To: Durus

new tone = nazi comparisons. Great “leadership” there. Just great!


20 posted on 01/20/2011 6:35:34 AM PST by hal ogen (quit fighting these societal vampire DIM/LIB moonbats.)
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To: GailA

Somebody needs to ask Cohen what he’d call it if a President (say someone like Obama) for months told the nation the insurance mandate was decidedly *not* a tax, and then after the healthcare bill passed, argued forcefully in court that the insurance mandate was constitutional because it definitely *was* a tax.


21 posted on 01/20/2011 6:36:07 AM PST by Stosh
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To: jdsteel

It’s pretty obvious they’re using the “big lie” technique with the “pre-existing conditions” issue.

Insurance companies don’t drop you for getting sick. This is what the ‘rats are implying.
Nor do they deny you coverage for a “pre-existing condition” if you were previously covered.


22 posted on 01/20/2011 6:36:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: GailA
Would like a Repub to step up; not just per Media response; but read into Congressional Record; just which Party caters to what was known as Germany's National Socialist Party MO. Shut these people up or better; make formal record, the truth of their lies.

Of course, 'these folks' pay no attention to that which they put forth per required 'civil dictums'. They know this is a 'silencing' MO for their opposition and certainly not meant to silence the Leftist perps themselves. . .

23 posted on 01/20/2011 6:38:09 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: GailA

No mention of the southern democrats and the KKK.


24 posted on 01/20/2011 6:41:26 AM PST by jetson
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To: GailA

More vitriolic speech from the Democrats.


25 posted on 01/20/2011 6:43:14 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: GailA

DemonRATs now blubbering about “civility”. Well, I’m just roflmao. What a joke.


26 posted on 01/20/2011 6:45:07 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: goldstategop

Wow I go to check the local news and the post explodes

News 5 has NO mention of Cohen’s remarks.

News 3 Video (has a hospital back drop)
http://www.wreg.com/news/wreg-cohen-controversy,0,7471216.story


27 posted on 01/20/2011 6:47:07 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: goldstategop

But, by all means: let’s have Republicans and Democrats sit together during the State of the Union address and hold hands and sing “kumbayah” for the cameras.


28 posted on 01/20/2011 6:47:15 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s not his first open mouth and insert foot moment.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/10/kossified-congressman-obama-was-a-community-organizer-like-jesus/

Dem. Rep. Steve Cohen (TN) – I submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that the parties have differences. But if you want change, you want the Democratic Party. Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=2662

I submit to you, Mr. Speaker, um, that the parties have differences, but if you want Change, but if you want change, you want the Democratic party, uh, Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus who our, uh, minister prayed about, uh, Pontius Pilate was a governor.

http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/5227-lawmaker-thanks-god-is-gone

Lawmaker: ‘Thank God’ Bush is gone

July 22, 2010,

There are many Democrats and at least a few Republicans on Capitol Hill who say they’re glad former President George W. Bush is no longer in office, but Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) this week went one step further: He thanked the Almighty for it.

Cohen took to the House floor on Tuesday, where he delivered remarks titled “Thank God Bush is Gone.”

Cohen blamed the 43rd president for the financial crisis, calling him “Hoover George Bush,” after former president Herbert Hoover.

“Now all [people] can say is Bush is gone,” Cohen said, “Nobody can defend him.”

The lawmaker took a few more swipes at the former president over tax cuts and the Iraq war before concluding, “Now all they can say is that he’s gone. Thank God he’s gone.

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Clinton-yearly unemployment avg.

1993 6.9

1994 6.1

1995 5.6 (Republicans take over congress)

1996 5.4

1997 4.9

1998 4.5

1999 4.2

2000 4.0

Bush -Yearly unemployment avg.

2001 4.7

2002 5.8 ( after 9/11 attacks)

2003 6.0

2004 5.5 (starting to come back down)

2005 5.1

2006 4.6

2007 4.6 (democrats take congress Jan 2007)

2008 5.8

Obama-Avg. yearly unemployment avg.

2009 9.3 (democrats control all 3 branches of government)

2010 9.7 (through June!)
http://www.bls.gov/cps/prev_yrs.htm


29 posted on 01/20/2011 6:50:28 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: grumpygresh

Won’t happen. Bohener won’t do it to uncivil and petty. The big thing that comes out of this is it is all over the airways in Memphis, and will be on the evening talk show...BTW start sending it to RUSH! One of us could get through.


30 posted on 01/20/2011 6:52:45 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: GailA
We heard on this floor, government takeover of health care.
WOW! It only took him - how many months - to respond?
It must be a "moment of opportunity" thing.
31 posted on 01/20/2011 6:58:11 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

With cohen that’s the only kind he does. He used the Giffords shooting to say he’s going to get a handgun permit. Forgetting he has to do the safety course, the FBI & TBI background checks and that takes about 3 months, and prove he’s a US Citizen. You can’t snap your fingers and get one, not even if you are a congresscritter.


32 posted on 01/20/2011 7:02:02 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

The come back will have to come from RUSH. It will not come from the Speaker of the House. So start emailing it to RUSH.

ElRushbo@eibnet.com

I already did, but it takes multiple ones to get through.


33 posted on 01/20/2011 7:06:37 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: GailA; justiceseeker93; Gapplega; jesseam; unkus; freekitty; bitt; Bitsy; onyx; nutmeg; flat; ...

In my opinion, the Kapos all reside on the Left and in this Regime starting with their God, Soros. All Goebbel’s-style propaganda flows out of this Regime and morons like this one. Talking about the pot calling the kettle what?


34 posted on 01/20/2011 7:08:37 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: goldstategop
How can you make lies and false statements about a bill and subsequent law, which nobody knows what's in it?

If they voted on a bill they never read, how can they comment on it whatsoever? If they do claim it's a good bill, ask them to outline the ten largest cost aspects of the law and how they benefit the taxpayer?

35 posted on 01/20/2011 7:24:38 AM PST by blackdog
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Clinton tactics. You accuse your opponent of what you are doing. You do it with outrage and anger. This insulates you from being asked about your position or comments on any related subject or matter. The media and left fall for it every time.


36 posted on 01/20/2011 7:29:38 AM PST by blackdog
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To: ExTexasRedhead
It is pretty sickening to have a Jewish liberal accuse his political adversaries of using Nazi tactics, when those tactics themselves were derived from Progressive propaganda techniques. Ironically, one of them was to accuse your enemies of what you yourself are doing.

As a practical matter, ObamaCare is a Federal government takeover of health care. It mandates coverage - enforced by the Federal government. It creates dozens of new government bureaucracies that will control coverages, pricing, and delivery systems through the power to issue rules and regulations as they see fit. The purpose is to drive private insurers out of business - and it will, without a doubt - because it destroys their business model.

When companies are legally enjoined from using actuarial science to set insurance rates, or from offering different tiers of coverage based upon both science and experience - they are no longer in the "insurance" business. Unless we overturn ObamaCare, we will be left with only government "insurance", and those who accuse Republicans of lying about it are themselves guilty of dissembling.

37 posted on 01/20/2011 7:30:03 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: goldstategop

The only way to bring back civility is to return to the “Code Duello”.

With CODE DUELLO you very carefully weigh each word before you spout off.


38 posted on 01/20/2011 7:33:54 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: GailA

They can all bite me.


39 posted on 01/20/2011 7:37:56 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: goldstategop

If there were only a few idiots like this one we might stand a chance. The fact that these nuts are being elected in a conservative state is reason to believe that America is totally and utterly $$%&$*&^%!


40 posted on 01/20/2011 7:40:00 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: MrB

Perhaps the Leftists think the Nazis were bad because they outlawed the killing of Aryan babies. If they allowed for more baby killing then the Nazis would be wonderful defenders of freedom.

This is all assuming that the leftists have a coherent “moral code” beyond their base feral drive. It is still more likely that these THINGS will say, do, and even believe whatever they need to feed off their enemies, support their own selfish agenda, and consume the host in the process.


41 posted on 01/20/2011 7:46:40 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: andy58-in-nh; ExTexasRedhead; socialismisinsidious; GailA; Yaelle; Arizona Carolyn; nikos1121; ...
The purpose is to drive private insurers out of business.

That and downgrading the quality and availability of medical care for the majority of Americans, and destroying the medical profession and other health care professions in the process.

This is not the first time that Cohen has gone on an outrageous rant on the House floor. But this comes on the heels of the 'Rats' innuendos about the "tone of the political debate" contributing to the recent Tucson shootings.

Cohen is just as off-the-wall as several other 'Rat colleagues in the House when it comes to grossly inappropriate rhetoric. Unfortunately, unlike the since departed Allan Grayson (for example), he was re-elected in November.

42 posted on 01/20/2011 8:00:16 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: grumpygresh

No no no! We need to make sure EVERYBODY hears his rants - just like with Alan Grayson.


43 posted on 01/20/2011 8:16:12 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: GailA

Cohen is a dead soul democrat. lying is second nature to these vermin.


44 posted on 01/20/2011 8:29:17 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Yet another self-hating Jew.


45 posted on 01/20/2011 8:40:25 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: GailA

46 posted on 01/20/2011 8:43:13 AM PST by bt579 (Liberals need women dependent and scared so that women, like blacks, will vote Democrat.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Oh no, not even. The arrogance of his blindness is evidence of a demigod complex.


47 posted on 01/20/2011 8:44:15 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“...The right needs to come back HARD on this...”

The time to come back hard on this was 25 seconds after this stupid little commie pr*ck made the statements on the House floor. Every Republican in the place should have stood up and shouted the weasel down.

Interesting isn’t it...an International Socialist calling his opposition National Socialists.

“...Either Obama has lost control of his party members in congress...”

Flunkies and hacks would be a better description...

“...or bambi’s speech was given with a tacit nod and a wink knowing that he wasn’t really serious...”

You are most likely spot-on there, Joe.

And if so, that’s fine.

Like an earlier article of a few days ago stated...I don’t want Civil Discourse either.

See: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2657837/posts


48 posted on 01/20/2011 8:52:31 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: grumpygresh

adl.org


49 posted on 01/20/2011 9:29:57 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: bt579

Rush made one of his RARE mistakes

cohen is a CAREER POLITICIAN 20 years as a TN State Senator, and is now a 3rd term US Rep.


50 posted on 01/20/2011 10:40:15 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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