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Police detective shoots and kills dog
KVAL ^ | January 19, 2011 | Kelly Koopmans

Posted on 01/20/2011 5:25:54 PM PST by Immerito

EUGENE, Ore. -- To his owner, 7-year-old Bull Terrier "Spanky" was a calm and loving companion.

"I had this dog for seven years since he was a puppy and I never seen him aggressive toward any human being," said Spanky's owner, Christopher Robinson.

Robinson said Spanky was gentle and never snappy, but the dog Robinson describes is a far cry from the dog a Eugene Police Department detective encountered on Tuesday.

According to neighbors and Robinson, the detective stopped by Robinson's home to talk to him about an unrelated case involving one of his neighbors.

Robinson said he wasn't home at the time but that the detective later told him that as he approached Robinson's home, he noticed that the door was open and that Spanky was in the yard.

According to neighbors, the detective said Spanky began to growl and show his teeth before lunging towards him.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; bullterrier; donutwatch; eugene; oregon; warondogs
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Another "terminator" cop approaching a dog in its own yard with gun apparently drawn.

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"I believe it was excessive use of force because he shot him twice," said Robinson. "The only reason I can think he would do something like that is if the officer already has his gun drawn."

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Robinson said a neighbor watched as the detective approached the home. According to that neighbor, the detective approached the house with his gun drawn, Robinson said.

1 posted on 01/20/2011 5:25:56 PM PST by Immerito
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To: Immerito

Another trigger happy cop. Another dead dog.


2 posted on 01/20/2011 5:28:18 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Another cop deserving to be fired.


3 posted on 01/20/2011 5:31:37 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Immerito
I’m waiting for the day some homeowner shoots one of these cops. To be honest, I won't feel too bad about it. If the cop wanted to talk to the guy he could have called him. Stay off his property and you don't have to worry about his dog.
4 posted on 01/20/2011 5:32:23 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Immerito

As a rule, your average butterfly has a nastier disposition than a Bull Terrier.


5 posted on 01/20/2011 5:33:01 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Nachum

I’m beginning to wonder if “shoot the dog and claim self defense” is being taught in the police academy now.

It sounds like this cop approached the dog with the gun already drawn; if that is the case, I’m not surprised the dog barked and growled; they are smart and can sense danger. That is what most of them were bred to do—to warn of intruders, especially dangerous ones. The idiot cop deliberately provoked the dog’s flight or fight instinct.


6 posted on 01/20/2011 5:33:22 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Immerito

The question to be asking is ‘how are hiring policies at police departments allowing, even showing preference for, people who are so trigger-happy that dogs (and people) are dying every day because the cop can “claim” he was threatened?’ They will gun down a wood carver in 5 seconds because he has a knife. They will shoot your dog in your yard because the dog is doing what dogs are supposed to do when strangers come into your yard.

Obama, or any other fascist, won’t have any trouble finding their camp guards and stormtroopers. All they will have to do is look in the police departments.


7 posted on 01/20/2011 5:36:01 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Immerito
Robinson said he believes the detective could have fired warning shots before shooting at the dog, or that he could have gone back to his car.

First option of firing a warning shot shows that Mr. Robinson isn't the brightest bulb in the box, though his second option is far more reasonable

Why can't these LEO call animal control when faced with a animal especially in a simple walk up to follow up on a previous investigation.

No known apparent threat, am open door is not necessarily nothing more than an open door

8 posted on 01/20/2011 5:38:44 PM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: hoosierham

“Another cop deserving to be fired.”

Another cop deserving to be fired upon.


9 posted on 01/20/2011 5:39:28 PM PST by benewton
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To: Immerito

Fire him and then sue him once his immunity’s gone.


10 posted on 01/20/2011 5:39:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: william clark

The best word I can think of to describe a bull terrier is “goofy’ (or funny).

“a Eugene Police Department detective”

If a guy in plainclothes came on to my property and shot my American bulldog, I would use the same excuse he is using to explain his demise.


11 posted on 01/20/2011 5:41:12 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: spodefly

What gets me was a story posted here not too long ago about a cop who was chasing a criminal through people’s backyards, jumping over fences and such,

and he jumps into a fenced in yard with a dog in there, a golder retriever type, and just blew the thing away.

The only reason for blowing away a dog properly confined on owners’ property was because the damn officer jumped into the yard.

And we had a ton of assholes on this site defending the actions of the cop.


12 posted on 01/20/2011 5:42:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Immerito

Seems it’s now policy. Shoot the dog first then question the homeowner.


13 posted on 01/20/2011 5:42:30 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer, A Painter, A Politician And The Media Can Change Black To White)
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To: Popman

I agree that Mr. Robinson was ignorant on that score, but the second option (leaving) was reasonable, especially in light of the assertion that the Police officer showed up on the wrong day.

From one of the comments:

Tylersgirl2010 38p · 1 hour ago

Spanky was a very gentle dog. He acted like a puppy all the time and he was very playful. The news didnt play all the story but the detective shouldn’t have been there. They had scheduled to talk on Thursday not Tuesday. He knew that know one was at home and stopped by anyway.


14 posted on 01/20/2011 5:42:35 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: tumblindice
If a guy in plainclothes came on to my property and shot my American bulldog, I would use the same excuse he is using to explain his demise.

I am amazed more cops are not shot. Good people have sane limits, but once control is lost over such an outrage, no limits.

15 posted on 01/20/2011 5:44:47 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: spodefly

Too true. Any normal person’s instinct would be to back the hell off, move to a protected location (car) to assess the animal’s behavior. All to reduce / eliminate the provocation.

For this dude to advance in the face of potential danger is unwarranted, ridiculous and stupid. No question.


16 posted on 01/20/2011 5:45:44 PM PST by onona (ibada)
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To: Nachum

17 posted on 01/20/2011 5:45:59 PM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Nachum

Wait til the ‘cops can do no wrong’ JBT- boot-lickers show up to defend this imbecile.

Anyone who shoots my dog, (and I mean anyone), better make sure his last life insurance premium check didn’t bounce.


18 posted on 01/20/2011 5:46:13 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Immerito
According to neighbors and Robinson, the detective stopped by Robinson's home to talk to him about an unrelated case involving one of his neighbors.

This doesn't sound like one of those cases where the beat cop was chasing a perp through someone's backyard.

This sounds like a detective doing a routine neighborhood canvas to interview neighbors about someone else.

Where was the urgency that required the detective to shoot the dog? Why didn't the detective go back to the car and call someone? Why didn't the detective simply come back to this house later?

-PJ

19 posted on 01/20/2011 5:47:28 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Immerito

No, but i guarantee you the FOP and PBA shyster lawyers are telling these thugs with badges that.


20 posted on 01/20/2011 5:47:31 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: paul51

Another one of too many instances where the jackboot kills an innocent animal. It’s about time to start evening the score. I’m sick of this LEO attitude that “we can do whatever we want”.


21 posted on 01/20/2011 5:47:54 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Immerito
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22 posted on 01/20/2011 5:48:43 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Secret Agent Man

Bob Lee Swagger: You don’t understand how serious this is. They killed my dog.

Sarah Fenn: What are you going to do?
Bob Lee Swagger: Exercise my right to bear arms.


23 posted on 01/20/2011 5:49:24 PM PST by onona (ibada)
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To: org.whodat; Candor7

Ping!


24 posted on 01/20/2011 5:49:34 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God!)
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To: onona

I don’t get the reference.


25 posted on 01/20/2011 5:51:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: tumblindice

You’re right about the BT’s. They don’t tend to be territorial like other breeds. They’ll generally welcome you. If you were to actually attack their owner, you’d want to watch out, but short of that, they pretty much just want to be your buddy.


26 posted on 01/20/2011 5:55:35 PM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Apparently it’s from “Shooter”, a movie released in 2007.


27 posted on 01/20/2011 5:58:33 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

**Wait til the ‘cops can do no wrong’ JBT- boot-lickers show up to defend this imbecile.**

I invited some. Let’s see if they show up. ;)


28 posted on 01/20/2011 5:59:35 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

**Wait til the ‘cops can do no wrong’ JBT- boot-lickers show up to defend this imbecile.**

I invited some. Let’s see if they show up. ;)


29 posted on 01/20/2011 6:05:26 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God!)
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To: Immerito

bookmark.


30 posted on 01/20/2011 6:06:53 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Shoot a cop for shooting a dog? Thats crazy, and you know it. No animal, however beloved, is worth a human life under any circumstances.


31 posted on 01/20/2011 6:07:53 PM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: william clark

My neighbor has an intact bullie......this dog is best buddies with everything and everyone including butterflies

He was a Katrina rescue from NOLA......

I swear this dog has a sense of humor and just takes joy in living.....


32 posted on 01/20/2011 6:12:52 PM PST by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: Lil Flower
I accept the invitation. ;)

Seriously though, if the dog was attacking him, then he had to gun it down. Officers fulfilling their duties may on occasion need to approach a private property, and if attacked by a resident critter, what can he do?

33 posted on 01/20/2011 6:13:04 PM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: william clark

My neighbor has an intact bullie......this dog is best buddies with everything and everyone including butterflies

He was a Katrina rescue from NOLA......

I swear this dog has a sense of humor and loves every moment of his life......


34 posted on 01/20/2011 6:13:09 PM PST by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: onona
I( believe the currecnt "ooficers" are being taught in training and by their buddies to NEVER BACK DOWN,NEVER RETREAT.There are plenty of situations that could be solved without violence but the cop too often arrives and immediately TAKES CHARGE without regard to what is going on.

It is all about egos and control ,and people feeling all puffed up with their authority.

You would think the Soviet police state would be an object lesson in how not to run a nation but too many socialists are determined to impose their control regardless.

35 posted on 01/20/2011 6:14:02 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Wasn’t the cop chasing a teenager with a misdemeanor warrant for his arrest?

I mentioned this story to a friend of mine and he didn’t have a problem with the cop shooting the dog. He said the cops life is worth more than the dogs (as if the dog would kill the cop). When I told him the dog was only doing his job in his own yard, he didn’t care. Some people can justify anything.

I can tell you this... if a cop was shooting my dogs in their kennel because the cop was chasing a bad guy, I’m not going to wait for anybody to identify themselves, for that could get me killed as well.


36 posted on 01/20/2011 6:14:15 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Immerito

The police are out of control and wrong about this.


37 posted on 01/20/2011 6:15:41 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Celtic Cross

What flavor boot-polish do you prefer—brown or black?


38 posted on 01/20/2011 6:22:08 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: Celtic Cross

No, he did not “have” to gun it down. He had several options:

1) Leave the premises and return when the dog’s owner was home, since his claimed objective was to talk to the dog’s owner.

2) Return to his car and call animal control for assistance.

3) Return on the date when he and the owner had previously agreed that they would meet, which would have been today.

Police used to get their job done WITHOUT needlessly shooting dogs. Since they have demonstrated that they are capable of doing so, it is the job of the conservative to hold them to that standard.


39 posted on 01/20/2011 6:34:37 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: benewton

Cops in general have greatly earned the disdain and disgust most of the public feel towards most of them.

Protect and serve my ass. More like buLly, badger, and blame.


40 posted on 01/20/2011 6:44:09 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Nachum

Another Private’s Citizen’s home deprived of its Early Warning Intruder Detection System.

These dog-killings and dog-shootings by cops sure benefit the criminal element, don’t they?

To think that some of Free Republic have the audacity to defend the cops in these instances.


41 posted on 01/20/2011 6:45:24 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Celtic Cross
and if attacked by a resident critter, what can he do?

Most dogs bark first as a warning. It usually takes further provocation to get them to attack. I would not be surprised to learn the detective is saying the barking was an attack.

42 posted on 01/20/2011 7:00:04 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Immerito; tumblindice
Obviously, there are instances where police overstep the line. But I'd hazard a guess that your average cop is not running around itching to shoot dogs.

There seems to be a rather prevalent opinion on this website that all cops are mindless, jack-booted minions of the state. Many, many cops are conservative, patriotic Americans.

43 posted on 01/20/2011 7:11:47 PM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I’m sick of reading these stories. Fn cowards w badges.


44 posted on 01/20/2011 7:13:52 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Celtic Cross

I was discussing this detective, this dog, and this instance.

There are those in the criminal element who would view this as a golden opportunity.

If a criminal invaded this Private Citizen’s home, then this man will be doubly victimized—by the detective who terminated his home’s first defense—and by the criminal who took advantage of the terminator detective’s actions.

But, of course, the Supreme Court has ruled that police have no obligation to protect any private citizen, yet this detective unlawfully deprived the citizen of his property.

It seems that not only do the police have no lawful obligation to “protect” their fellow citizens, but the criminal element among the police also have no qualms in removing a very effective means for a private citizen to protect himself and his property.


45 posted on 01/20/2011 7:22:47 PM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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Another episode of the “Real Cops of the Peoples Republic of Eugene”.....


46 posted on 01/20/2011 7:28:19 PM PST by Shamrock-DW
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To: scripter; Celtic Cross

I think these cops are watching too many dirty harry movies.
In this instance a fence around the property would prevent the leo from just stopping by to ask questions. Need a warrant to enter. The cop chasing a suspect through the private citizen’s property is probably not allowed - would he be able to barge into the house if he thought the perp was in the house? I think not.
With regards to the folks on this thread who think no persons life is worth a dogs life I ask would you condone shooting a tresspaser or a robber? If a criminal was on your property and shot your dog would you shoot him? Why is an leo exempt?


47 posted on 01/20/2011 7:52:00 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: onona

It’s from “Shooter”, a fairly good Mark Wahlberg flick.


48 posted on 01/21/2011 2:10:17 AM PST by Mamba56 (We herd sheep, we drive cattle, we lead people. Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way. - Patton)
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To: Immerito

Altert, alert, another pitbull down. The duggies status symbol.


49 posted on 01/21/2011 5:42:18 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Thank you for also being on record as supporting the detective’s decision to deprive this Private Citizen who has been charged and convicted with no crime of an excellent primary means of defense.

Will the police be protecting this man, since they have deprived him of his bull terrier?

What happens when the criminal element find out that this man’s house is an easier target, Government Boot-Licker?

Why are you cheering on the Government Agent who wantonly destroyed this man’s property? Would you cheer on a member of the criminal element who did the same thing?


50 posted on 01/21/2011 6:33:54 AM PST by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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