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Gov. Neil Abercrombie Has Utterly Failed To Prove Obama Was Born In Hawaii
Hawaii Reporter ^ | Thursday, January 20th, 2011 | ROBERT PAUL REYES

Posted on 01/21/2011 12:34:14 AM PST by Red Steel

President Barack Obama has been unable to dispel the rumors that that he wasn`t born in the United States.

It`s much easier for a president to move his agenda forward if the electorate perceives him as an honest individual worthy of respect. Only 58 percent of Americans believe that Obama was born in the US, the president has a very serious credibility problem with the American public.

The rest of Obama`s term is going to be very difficult if he isn`t able to convince the public that he was born in the United States. But it doesn`t seem like the arrogant Obama cares very much what the voters think, he dismisses the concerns of those who doubt the legitimacy of his presidency.

It is incumbent upon Obama to remove all doubts, once and for all, and release his original birth certificate. That`s something that contrary to Obama apologists, he`s yet to do. The original Obama birth certificate with the name of the hospital and the doctor, his or her signature, the infant`s weight, and the national origin of the parents has NEVER been made public. Obama has only released a short-term copy of a “certificate of live birth.”

Obama seems oblivious to the controversy that swirls over his unreleased birth certificate, but the governor of Hawaii has made it his mission to prove that Obama was born in Hawaii.

“Officials in Hawaii have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in their state, according to its new governor.

Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who took office in December, told Honolulu`s Star-Advertiser on Tuesday that `our investigation` indicates there is a recording of his birth.

“It actually exists in the archives, written down,” he said.

The new Democratic head of the state vowed when he took office that he would do his best to end the debate over Obama`s birth, which began in 2008 during the presidential campaign.

“We`ll do what we can as quickly as we can to make it inevitable that only those who wish the President ill, only the ones with a political agenda, will be the ones doing this kind of thing,` Abercrombie told CNN in December. “The President is entitled to the respect of his office and he`s entitled to have his mother and father respected.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/01/19/2011-01-19_record_of_obamas_birth_is_in_the_archives_hawaii_gov.html#ixzz1BaRKJ3Tc

Officials in Hawaii need to track down only one document: The original Obama birth certificate with the name of the hospital and the doctor, his or her signature. How difficult can it be for the governor of Hawaii to track down one document? He can dispatch hundreds of state employees to search for Obama`s birth certificate.

Governor Abercrombie stated `our investigation` indicates there is a recording of his birth.” This is nothing but doublespeak, there either is or isn`t a birth certificate. What the hell does Abercrombie mean by using the phrase “our investigation indicates”?

President Obama is entitled to the respect of his office, but he hasn`t earned that respect. The only way Obama can earn that respect is by proving he`s actually qualified to be the President of the United States.

Abercrombie has utterly failed in his mission to prove that Obama was born in the United States. To sate that “officials have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in Hawaii” falls woefully short of proving that Obama is a citizen of the United States. To claim that “our investigation `indicates there is a recording of his birth” doesn`t mean Jack.

Show us the money! Show us the birth certificate!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; ineligibility; naturalborncitizen
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1 posted on 01/21/2011 12:34:22 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I’m glad that the rest of the world is finally starting to agree with ME. What took you all so long?


2 posted on 01/21/2011 12:48:45 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Red Steel
Way to go, Neil Abercrombie ... you got the Globe to make it front-page last week


3 posted on 01/21/2011 12:48:50 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Red Steel

I can’t say I’ve followed all this as closely as many of you have...

...but the bit about the doctor seems key. Has anyone followed up to find the doctors named on any of these documents floating around? Is there a single doctor, orderly, nurse, parking attendant, anyone who claims to have been a witness? In those days, a family doctor was standard...who was their doctor?


4 posted on 01/21/2011 12:49:34 AM PST by harmonium
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To: Red Steel

The simplest starting point would be: “Has anyone ELSE’S Hawaiian birth certificate gone missing?” If so, how? What was done about it? How was that resolved for the citizen?

If NOT, then Obama would have us believe he is the only “citizen of Hawaii” whose BC was lost. That simply won’t pass the laugh test. He would be politically untenable at that point.

If they can’t find the original document, then from what original root document was Obama’s CLB generated? Who authorized it? Who, personally, generated it?

These are simple (and Constitutionally critical) questions that can no longer go unasked and unanswered.


5 posted on 01/21/2011 12:50:01 AM PST by sklar
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To: Red Steel; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...
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Hussein 0bama has been unable to dispel the rumors that that he wasn`t born in the United States.

. . . . Article.

6 posted on 01/21/2011 12:50:23 AM PST by LucyT
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To: sklar

There was a very localized fire at the Records Division. I think they managed to contain the flames to Dr. Fukino’s waste bin.


7 posted on 01/21/2011 12:53:39 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

hee hee :-)


8 posted on 01/21/2011 12:55:44 AM PST by sklar
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To: Red Steel

If Congress doesn’t require all federal candidates to present their birth certificates prior to running for office, this country’s asking for its demise as a free nation. If Obama gets a free pass the next time around, then there is nothing to stop an influx of candidates who owe allegiance to other countries whose officials can deny that their puppets are foreign citizens. In other words, our sovereignty is destroyed as foreigners take control of the U.S. government from the inside.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 12:59:24 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: F15Eagle

bump for later. Gotta go plow snow now.


10 posted on 01/21/2011 1:07:04 AM PST by rambo316 (Rush is Right)
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To: sklar

“from what original root document was Obama’s CLB generated?”
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I can not confirm this, but it is my understanding that
ANYONE can walk in off the street and obtain the same document that Obozo used and that we have all seen.

It would be what one would get if born on the street or
delivered by a midwife
I guess you just walk in, hold up your hand and swear that you were born somewhere in Hawaii.

I do not know why Obozo has not used this excuse.


11 posted on 01/21/2011 1:11:45 AM PST by AlexW
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To: sklar
If they can’t find the original document, then from what original root document was Obama’s CLB generated? Who authorized it? Who, personally, generated it?

It about proves it be a fraud. According, to Obama's Press Secretary Roberta Gibbs who said he placed Obama's COLB on the Internet at the DailyKOS.com website, and on Obama's official campaign website... said this after taking a question from Helen Thomas:

"The longtime correspondent Helen Thomas asked Mr. Gibbs why he thought the issue kept coming up, lobbing Mr. Gibbs a nice fat ball.

“Because,” he said, “for $15, you can get an Internet address and say whatever you want.” "

That same BS goes for loony tune websites like DailyKOS-Kooks.

As Gibbels follows up with,

"In the most impassioned part of his daily press briefing, Gibbs insisted that there was no way to put the so-called "birther" issue to rest.

"The God-honest truth is no," he said. "And I almost hate to indulge in such an august setting as the White House briefing room, and I mean this seriously, discussing the made up, fictional, nonsense of whether or not the president was born in this country. A year and a half ago I asked that the birth certificate be put on the Internet because lord knows if you have a birth certificate and put it on the Internet, what else could be the story?" "

So putting it on the Internet is proof that Obama was born in Hawaii? And right after Gibbs tells us you can say anything you want on the Internet for $15 bucks.

12 posted on 01/21/2011 1:15:24 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: harmonium

Has anyone followed up to find the doctors named on any of these documents floating around? Is there a single doctor, orderly, nurse, parking attendant, anyone who claims to have been a witness?


There is no one, NO ONE, claiming to be a “witness”

and no baby photos or pregnancy photos or any other kind of record.

His mom, Stanley, seems to have just disappeared from the record for the entire period of the pregnancy.

Strange and weird, like everything about this man ...


13 posted on 01/21/2011 1:24:36 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: AlexW
I can not confirm this, but it is my understanding that ANYONE can walk in off the street and obtain the same document that Obozo used and that we have all seen.

Yep, all they have to do is show that the mother was a resident of Hawaii for a year prior to the birth. Obozo could go in today ( or in 2007 ) and get one issued.

14 posted on 01/21/2011 1:25:10 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: sklar

The simplest starting point would be: “Has anyone ELSE’S Hawaiian birth certificate gone missing?” If so, how? What was done about it? How was that resolved for the citizen?

If NOT, then Obama would have us believe he is the only “citizen of Hawaii” whose BC was lost. That simply won’t pass the laugh test. He would be politically untenable at that point.

If they can’t find the original document, then from what original root document was Obama’s CLB generated? Who authorized it? Who, personally, generated it?

These are simple (and Constitutionally critical) questions that can no longer go unasked and unanswered.


Well stated.

But, sad to say, all these questions and dozens of others will indeed continue to go unasked and unanswered ...


15 posted on 01/21/2011 1:26:18 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: sklar
The dog ate his BC.

Either that or a Moose.

Oh Yeah.....Jeremiah 50:31
31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the Lord GOD of hosts: for your day is come, the time that I will visit you.

Thank You Satan 1:51☠

16 posted on 01/21/2011 1:33:30 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: TheThinker

I could see states implementing a requirement (maybe a handful of states) that required the birth certificate to be shown to the Attorney General in each state to certify who they are. But even if you disqualified the President in a couple of states....write-in ballots would be used by most folks to still force the issue into the next round.


17 posted on 01/21/2011 1:44:23 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Red Steel

18 posted on 01/21/2011 1:45:19 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“The simplest starting point would be: “Has anyone ELSE’S Hawaiian birth certificate gone missing?””
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No, the simplest starting point would be the hospitals.
I think Obama has at one time or another claimed both of them,
Kapiolani and Queens.
Even if the state lost the original, the hospital would have a record of the birth.
Obama’s best bet is to claim birth by midwife, but maybe too late for that.


19 posted on 01/21/2011 1:49:02 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Red Steel

I want to see Sarahcuda debate zerobama during the next election campaign and pull out a piece of paper in front of the entire audience (and liberal moderators) saying — with a big smile — “This is my long-form birth certificate. Where’s yours?”

I chuckle every time I think of that little scenario.


20 posted on 01/21/2011 1:50:47 AM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: TheThinker

>>In other words, our sovereignty is destroyed as foreigners take control of the U.S. government from the inside.<<

As the ONLY country in the world that is NOT allowed to control its borders, our sovereignty is already gone. People who are here illegally are stealing jobs, stealing money and then sending money out of the country.

Last time I checked, most countries limit how much money can be sent out of that country.


21 posted on 01/21/2011 1:56:58 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: AlexW
Hmmm
22 posted on 01/21/2011 2:15:55 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Red Steel

Birth certificates of minors born abroad are registered on the basis of a written statement by one of the parents to the Vital Statistic Office....


23 posted on 01/21/2011 2:26:41 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: pissant

LOL, nice.


24 posted on 01/21/2011 2:44:18 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: Red Steel

OR. . . there is no such document. It’s not ‘lost’’; it never existed. How many
other birth certificates of that day are lost. None? Therefore, QED.


25 posted on 01/21/2011 2:49:05 AM PST by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: F15Eagle
I love the "I hate You".
My Feelings exactly
26 posted on 01/21/2011 2:50:18 AM PST by DeaconRed (Proof The Polls are a scam. There is No Way Zero has more than 12% approval.)
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
"there is no such document. It’s not ‘lost’’; it never existed."

It is the ONLY explanation that makes any sense.

27 posted on 01/21/2011 2:52:07 AM PST by DeaconRed (Proof The Polls are a scam. There is No Way Zero has more than 12% approval.)
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To: Red Steel

Have a peek at this..

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3471792410169306775&q=Hawaii+birth&hl=en&as_sdt=2003


28 posted on 01/21/2011 2:56:32 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Red Steel; rxsid; edge919; Spaulding

The basic statute in Hawaii on names was adopted in 1860.

Until 1967, it was required that all children born in wedlock shall have their father’s name as a “family name” and “[besides] . . . a Christian name suitable to their sex.” R.L.1955, § 327-2. In 1967, the words “Christian name suitable to their sex”[6] were deleted and the words “given name” substituted.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3471792410169306775&q=Hawaii+birth&hl=en&as_sdt=2003


29 posted on 01/21/2011 3:02:14 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

If Florida does not require him to prove it in 12 can I sue to prevent his name on the ballot?


30 posted on 01/21/2011 3:05:37 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Red Steel

Consistently since 1860, illegitimate children who are not legitimated before the original birth certificate is filed are required to have their mother’s surname as a “family name.” H.R.S. § 574-3 (1976).


31 posted on 01/21/2011 3:08:03 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Red Steel
“It actually exists in the archives, written down,” he said.

Where, on a post-it note?

Now that Nancy Pelosi is no longer in line for POTUS, I hope no one lets up until the proof is shown that BO is or is not a usurper. If he is the usurper he appears to be, then he, and EVERYONE that had a part in this scam should go to prison including Mochelle because you know she knows the truth.

32 posted on 01/21/2011 3:14:38 AM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: TheThinker

...”If Congress doesn’t require all federal candidates to present their birth certificates prior to running for office, this country’s asking for its demise as a free nation. If Obama gets a free pass the next time around, then there is nothing to stop an influx of candidates who owe allegiance to other countries whose officials can deny that their puppets are foreign citizens. In other words, our sovereignty is destroyed as foreigners take control of the U.S. government from the inside”...

You have described the grave danger this puts us in. I have heard it said that the reason even conservative media people will not touch this is because it would cause such chaos if he is found to be ineligible and removed. This is true..However, if our Constitution has been breached in this way, it must be faced and corrected. At first, I did not pay much attention to this, but the refusal of the President, himself, to address the issue directly and demand that an investigation go forward to prove that he is who he claims to be, is just too irrational to brush aside and forget. Name one American citizen you know who would not be willing to do that. I have to say that the silence of our media, our lawmakers, and our institutions of all kinds on this matter is really perplexing..WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?


33 posted on 01/21/2011 3:34:05 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite

“WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?”

Can you say “President Biden”?


34 posted on 01/21/2011 3:47:15 AM PST by tank_sherman
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To: GoodDay
I want to see Sarahcuda debate zerobama during the next election campaign and pull out a piece of paper in front of the entire audience

Better yet.....

Pulls out a stack of documents....

Palin: "here are my family long form documents going back 5 generations."

35 posted on 01/21/2011 4:04:50 AM PST by spokeshave (Issa is a self-made man. He was in the military doing bomb disposal, must be pretty fearless.)
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To: Red Steel
An official copy (with the stamped seal) of my birth certificate is in a drawer 3 feet from my left hand. It resides in a folder with the BC's of all my family members. The folder exists because you periodically need your BC to acquire a passport, get a driver's license in a new state or otherwise prove who you are. Normal people have a copy or can get a copy in short order.

This issue angers me. Show us the birth certificate!

36 posted on 01/21/2011 4:07:19 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Red Steel

I one of Obama’s books, he talks about his birth certificates falling out of one of his grandmother’s books when he was a teenager. Obama has a copy, so he says.


37 posted on 01/21/2011 4:30:11 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Red Steel

I’ll bet Julian Assange of WikiLeaks could find that COLB .


38 posted on 01/21/2011 5:27:16 AM PST by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLENN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: harmonium
That's the whole point. Absent the LFBC, which contains all of that information, there is NO Doctor, NO hospital, NO vitals, NO nuthin’. States don't just ‘lose’ the LFBC. The most obvious explanation is that a LFBC doesn't exist for Baby Barry.
39 posted on 01/21/2011 6:16:46 AM PST by JPG (There is hope for America and her name is Sarah Palin.)
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To: Red Steel

I keep thinking Neil Abercrombie’s involvement is intended as a signal to the Obama administration to wrap things up and get their man to resign for health reasons. The window for plausible deniability that the resignation is due to eligibility concerns is closing. Election season is starting in earnest and Obama’s propagandists and enablers have to see what a minefield it’s going to be. They need him OUT before his utter fraudulence is exposed and the hated birthers are proven correct.

I doubt the scenario that Governor Abercrombie is just a goofy stoner who blundered into the middle of this issue although he probably finds that perception to be useful.


40 posted on 01/21/2011 6:39:40 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Red Steel

41 posted on 01/21/2011 6:46:04 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: pissant

There was a very localized fire at the Records Division. I think they managed to contain the flames to Dr. Fukino’s waste bin.


Maybe Fukino boxed it up and took it with her by mistake when she vacated the premises with the new regime coming in.

If Abercommie wants to get a little mnore ambitious maybe he can just walk down the hall to speak with his No. 2 Lt. Gov. Schatz and ask if it is true whether he refused to certify Obama to be placed on the ballot in 2008 and if so, based on what grounds?

From The Daily Pen...

Former DPH Chair, Brian Schatz, now serves as
Hawaii’s Lt. Governor under Gov. Neil Abercrombie (2010).
As DPH Chair, Schatz authored the state’s Democrat
Party OCON for Obama without including legally required
language stating that Obama was constitutionally
eligible to serve as president. Schatz won the Lt. Gov.
seat by a wide margin after two years of remaining
silent about his OCON controversy.

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/


42 posted on 01/21/2011 6:50:28 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: AlexW

I can not confirm this, but it is my understanding that
ANYONE can walk in off the street and obtain the same document that Obozo used and that we have all seen.


How about a case of massive citizenship and welfare fraud committed by officials in at least one of the new fledgling states from the late 50’s???

Obama X marks the spot

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/01/obama-x-marks-spot.html


43 posted on 01/21/2011 6:55:33 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: screaminsunshine

Every citizen has the right to make a challenge to a candidate wanting to be placed on the ballot. However, in order for it to have standing (show proof od direct injury) an opponent would be better served to file it. If you recall McCain was challenged by a citizen in NH in 2008 and was able to prevail due to lack of standing and no proof of direct injury, which has become the playbook of the Obama legal team with its various court challenges.


44 posted on 01/21/2011 7:02:17 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: bushpilot1

Consistently since 1860, illegitimate children who are not legitimated before the original birth certificate is filed are required to have their mother’s surname as a “family name.” H.R.S. § 574-3 (1976).


So Barry is illegitimate?


45 posted on 01/21/2011 7:03:46 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Red Steel

Since all of the cases re: eligibility have been dismissed due to “lack of standing” or because of some silly procedural bs, I wonder if ordiniary citizens could force the issue by suing the DNC? Anyone?


46 posted on 01/21/2011 7:13:55 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: LucyT; Red Steel; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire
58% don't believe .......

This, I am sadly forced to conclude, is a very misleading statistic. The 58% may surely not "believe" that Obama was born in the United States, but that doesn't mean that they think it's all that important!

Do your own poll with one question,

"Do you think Barack Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?"

The answers I most often receive are:
(1)Yes, he was born in Hawaii.
(2)Yes, his mother was a citizen.
(3)He is the President.
(4) Don't know.

The Constitutional issue, although alive and well, is only enough of concern to enough people to cast a faint pall of illegitimacy on the administration, but that's all. Most voters don't understand it. Unless Obama is refused access to one state's ballot it is very sadly going to be:
(a) be a back page story, and it will not much
(b) affect the election.
(c)The candidate that brings it up would face a storm of MSM-generated ridicule, so NOT ONE HAS.

This is precisely why the beloved "Right Wing Talkers" largely avoid the issue. The great Mark Levin, for example. He wrote a charming book about his dog. But in his work on the Constitution, it would seem that his beloved dog ate Article II of his copy of the document.

The Abercrombie story is already being played as a farce, and and ineligible Obama has already wreaked great damage on the country. He may lose the election, or even not run, which is more likely, but the Constitutional issue is in danger of being swept under the rug.

Obama, no Obama , that is what we cannot allow to happen. 1 Governor. 1 State AG. 1 state legislature. So far. Noise. Not action.

47 posted on 01/21/2011 7:26:37 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Wanted: 1 Governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off 1 state ballot in 2012.)
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To: Red Steel
President Obama is entitled to the respect of his office, but he hasn`t earned that respect.

Never had it from me and never will.

48 posted on 01/21/2011 7:28:00 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: sklar
The simplest starting point would be: “Has anyone ELSE’S Hawaiian birth certificate gone missing?”

His kindergarten records (which, coincidentally, included a copy of his BC) have also gone missing. Amazing, how much of this guy's past has "gone missing", huh.

49 posted on 01/21/2011 7:31:41 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: JPG
States don't just ‘lose’ the LFBC. The most obvious explanation is that a LFBC doesn't exist for Baby Barry.

No, these just aren't "lost" because there is always a trail of documentation. First, some doctor would have Ann's record of her prenatal visits. Then, the hospital would have Ann's record of when she went in to deliver the baby. The hospital would have a record for little Barry, along with the doctor's signature and baby footprints. Then, the hospital would have a record showing when they sent his BC to the state. The state would issue the number and enter it into their files as well as index it in a separate book. The state would send the hospital and counties copies for their records. The county would handwrite his and his parents names into their original Birth Index Book and indicate which big Birth Book his info would be found. The county would then handwrite in the big Birth Book's index (yes, a second index meaning it's entered in two separate books so there is a "backup" record) and insert his BC. So, how many steps along the document trail could he get verification that he was born in Hawaii? BTW, Governor, no where along the way would his records have gone to the archives building.

50 posted on 01/21/2011 7:59:29 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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