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Breakthrough Laser Could Revolutionize Navy's Weaponry
FoxNews.Com ^ | 1/20/2011

Posted on 01/21/2011 6:27:58 AM PST by Lazamataz

The Navy has passed a major milestone in its quest to build an incredibly powerful new anti-aircraft gun.

Scientists with the Navy's Office of Naval Research have demonstrated a prototype system capable of producing from thin air the electrons needed to generate ultrapowerful, "megawatt-class" laser beams for the agency's next-generation system.

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Navy ships have become vulnerable in modern times to supersonic missiles because of their slower defense systems, the agency worries. "The FEL is expected to provide future U.S. Naval forces with a near-instantaneous laser ship defense in any maritime environment throughout the world,” Saulter said.


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KEYWORDS: laser; miltech; usnavy
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1 posted on 01/21/2011 6:27:59 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Very cool!

Spooky though that one day they may attach these things to sharks.
2 posted on 01/21/2011 6:30:33 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Lazamataz

Perfect solution to the neighbor’s barking dog...


3 posted on 01/21/2011 6:32:24 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Lazamataz

It will never be allowed to be used. There are certainly some air born bacteria on the endangered species list which will prevent the implementation of this weapon.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 6:33:11 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: Lazamataz

Obama probably already gave away the technology to HU. In a quid pro quo, HU may have promised him we could sell some “stuff” in China.


5 posted on 01/21/2011 6:35:16 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: mmichaels1970

Is it as powerful as a Photon Torpedo?


6 posted on 01/21/2011 6:36:34 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: SC_Pete

Nahh... the Muslim outreach will get them first , aside from that, Chinese don’t like second hand goods neither.


7 posted on 01/21/2011 6:40:42 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Lazamataz; KevinDavis

That sounds like it could be very useful.

what navy is that in the pic?


8 posted on 01/21/2011 6:41:03 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: NeverForgetBataan
Don't know much about photon torpedos. But I'd be more concerned that this tech could fall into the wrong hands and we could end up with "sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their frickin heads"


9 posted on 01/21/2011 6:42:11 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970
Don't want to bust your bubble, but the air force has been breaking through for about thirty years now. Over coming the reload and energy requirements is a bitch.
10 posted on 01/21/2011 6:44:08 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Lazamataz
At LAST! Some "green technology" that is actually worth something.
That is a great photo, complete with exploded pieces of targets on the floor.
11 posted on 01/21/2011 6:47:29 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: org.whodat
Over coming the reload and energy requirements is a bitch.

FEL technology generates powerful laser beams by passing a stream of electrons -- those tiny, charged particles of matter -- through magnetic fields. Using electrons means avoiding the hassle of chemical fuels that are required for ordinary gas lasers, and bypassing the heating issue of electronic lasers.

12 posted on 01/21/2011 6:48:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Although that DOES look like Darth Vader in the foreground...


13 posted on 01/21/2011 6:49:18 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Lazamataz

14 posted on 01/21/2011 6:49:30 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: Red Badger

No such thing as free energy, yet.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 6:50:17 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Lazamataz

If you want a more ‘techy’ article on the subject:

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-11/navys-free-electron-laser-system-will-be-more-just-death-ray


16 posted on 01/21/2011 6:50:46 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: GeronL

I see the Stars and Stripes flying from some of those ships, which I believe are of the LHA class. Why seven of them would all be together, who knows.


17 posted on 01/21/2011 6:50:54 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: org.whodat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_electron_laser


18 posted on 01/21/2011 6:50:57 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Rummyfan

Sorry, six.....


19 posted on 01/21/2011 6:51:41 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: GeronL
...what navy is that in the pic?

That's the Navy/Marine Corps assault/Harrier carriers. I could be wrong about this, but I think they're the Tarawa class and/or the Wasp class amphibious assault ships.

On a side note, I wonder if Zero was stupid enough to include this in the new START treaty and was the Senate stupid enough to sign off on such.

20 posted on 01/21/2011 6:51:50 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: org.whodat

Are you referring to that ray gun they have glued on the nose of a 747.

I hope those fly boys get crakin on that thing cause we gonna need it when HU decides to re-take Taiwan.


21 posted on 01/21/2011 6:52:01 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: org.whodat

Nobody said anything about free energy. ‘Free’ in terms of there are free electrons that form the beam, not light photons..............


22 posted on 01/21/2011 6:52:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: org.whodat

According to the article this is a FEL laser. The laser onboard the Air Force 747 is a chemical laser which is a logistics nightmare. This looks to be vastly superior to the chemical laser and even the solid state laser.


23 posted on 01/21/2011 6:53:25 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: SC_Pete

Who?


24 posted on 01/21/2011 6:53:32 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: sauropod

read


25 posted on 01/21/2011 6:53:32 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: TexasPatriot1
Better version:


26 posted on 01/21/2011 6:55:41 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: org.whodat
No such thing as free energy, yet.

Wait 'til the State of the Union speech. I think Obama promised to cure cancer in his first SOTU, so he may promise free energy in the upcoming one.

27 posted on 01/21/2011 6:58:49 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: drbuzzard
From your link:

Of course, the Navy still wants its laser to target and destroy incoming threats, and therein lies the challenge. The lower power threshold for a weaponized laser of this nature is more or less 100 kilowatts; the FEL at the DOE lab where the Navy has been sponsoring research currently runs at about 14 kilowatts. Boeing’s job is to make up the difference so the Navy’s FEL can perform tasks that require 50 watts, 100-plus kilowatts, and everything in between.

Sounds like it's a problem of scaling it up.

28 posted on 01/21/2011 6:59:20 AM PST by DManA
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To: Lazamataz

29 posted on 01/21/2011 6:59:33 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: org.whodat
No such thing as free energy, yet.

"Why sir, how can you doubt me? As sure as the sun rises.... it's FREE! In fact, dear sir, DOES ANYONE CHARGE YOU MONEY FOR THE SUN? NO! NO, I say! The sunlight you have on your dapper suit, RIGHT NOW, is FREE! That, sir, is free energy and may God strike me dead right now if I lie."

30 posted on 01/21/2011 7:00:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: TexasPatriot1

31 posted on 01/21/2011 7:02:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
Tech specs will be on Wikileaks soon thanks to a low-level illegal alien Navy enlistee upset over failure to pass the Dream Act.

Obama will go golfing...

32 posted on 01/21/2011 7:07:50 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Lazamataz
lazer cat Pictures, Images and Photos

This could get messy.

33 posted on 01/21/2011 7:07:54 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: Lazamataz
Can we make miniaturize this technology to fit it on an F-22/F-35/Pegasus/Phantom Ray/RQ-170 Sentinel? Could they disable TELs before they raise their missiles to launch position?
34 posted on 01/21/2011 7:08:51 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: saganite

After working in the HEL field for more than 30 years, I think fiber lasers offer the best hope for every type of mission except the largest systems such as would be required to defend ship convoys from ballistic missiles.


35 posted on 01/21/2011 7:09:42 AM PST by Laserman
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To: DManA

That seems to have been the problem in directed energy weapons all along.


36 posted on 01/21/2011 7:12:02 AM PST by drbuzzard (different league)
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To: org.whodat
but the air force has been breaking through for about thirty years now

Sorry to bust your bubble, but the USAF has been working on chemical lasers. Not FELs. Big difference. The simplest difference is the logistics works for the FEL.

/johnny (former zoomie, disappointed that the USAF fell so far behind the USN)

37 posted on 01/21/2011 7:12:46 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tonytitan
Can we make miniaturize this technology to fit it on an F-22/F-35/Pegasus/Phantom Ray/RQ-170 Sentinel? Could they disable TELs before they raise their missiles to launch position?

Miniaturization has never been a problem, all packages shrink in time. HOWEVER: The power requirements might put it out of the realm of being fighter-borne. This article references putting them on Naval vessels by 2018, and that's using the shipboard power plant.

38 posted on 01/21/2011 7:13:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

What does this have to do with women? /s

My favorite subject.


39 posted on 01/21/2011 7:14:50 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Vendome
Lasers can be used to kill other boyfriends.

Ergo, more available women.

Q.E.D.

40 posted on 01/21/2011 7:17:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

Great Idea. I’ll take two. How much?


41 posted on 01/21/2011 7:18:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Wrong, they have been working on both. And also a rail gun.


42 posted on 01/21/2011 7:19:08 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Lazamataz
Next stop...


43 posted on 01/21/2011 7:19:31 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: JRandomFreeper

As also a retired zoomie I can say not to worry. The AF is doing fine in advancing HEL technology.


44 posted on 01/21/2011 7:21:19 AM PST by Laserman
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To: Lazamataz
This article references putting them on Naval vessels by 2018, and that's using the shipboard power plant.

I wonder if shipboard power is required to turn the FEL into a megawatt-class weapon and unneeded for use as a 100 kilowatt weapon. Is that enough to disable enemy fighters/incoming missiles? Could the F-35 be up-amped to power a kilowatt-class FEL?

45 posted on 01/21/2011 7:22:33 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: NeverForgetBataan

They have several, check discovery tv, probably have a down loadable vid of them test fired.


46 posted on 01/21/2011 7:25:14 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Lazamataz

Power. That is the sticky wicket.

The Navy has been funding research into a new type of fusion generator which uses static fields to contain the plasma reaction. The configuration is simple, requires very little space (compared to, say, a tokamak), and generates prodigious power. Fusion powered cruisers armed with railguns and FEL CIWS would be formidable platforms.

It would be interesting if the size of the “whiffle ball” reactor could allow it be utilized on an aircraft. Seems the AF wanted to build a nuclear-powered bomber years ago...

http://emc2fusion.org/


47 posted on 01/21/2011 7:36:44 AM PST by BrewingFrog (I brew, therefore I am!)
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To: Lazamataz
I worked around this puppy for a few years:


48 posted on 01/21/2011 7:47:31 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

Looks like a CO2 system at the AF


49 posted on 01/21/2011 7:49:06 AM PST by Laserman
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To: mmichaels1970

or Killer Sea Bass


50 posted on 01/21/2011 7:54:16 AM PST by CMAC51
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