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Union sues over S.C. gov's remarks about Boeing plant
KOMO ^ | 1/21/11

Posted on 01/21/2011 8:57:13 AM PST by markomalley

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is facing her first big lawsuit after saying the state would try to keep unions out of the Boeing Inc. plant in North Charleston.

The lawsuit filed Thursday in U.S. District Court in Charleston by the International Association of Machinists and AFL-CIO asked for a court order telling Haley and her director of the Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation to butt out and remain neutral in matters concerning union activities.

"There's no secret I don't like the unions," Haley said when asked about the litigation. "We are a right-to-work state. I will do everything I can to defend the fact we are a right-to-work state. We are pro-business by nature. I want us to continue to be pro-business. If they don't like what I said, I'm sorry, that's how I feel."

(Excerpt) Read more at komonews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: aflcio; boeing; bustunions; democrats; haley; nikki; nikkihaley; scarolina; socarolina; unioncorruption; unions

1 posted on 01/21/2011 8:57:15 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

so the union thinks that we the people must remain silent but they can agitate as much as they want to?

What part of “right to work” does the AFL-CIO not understand?


2 posted on 01/21/2011 9:00:36 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: markomalley
The Governor missed a golden opportunity to keep her mouth shut. Never warn, never threaten, and maintain enough plausible deniable to say “who me?” with a straight face when caught.
3 posted on 01/21/2011 9:01:53 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Boeing is a traitor to the State of Washington and should be demonized for taking advantage of cheap labor in South Carolina.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 9:04:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: markomalley

She may not like unions but can she legally prevent them?


5 posted on 01/21/2011 9:05:18 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: K-Stater
She may not like unions but can she legally prevent them?

She can try!!!

6 posted on 01/21/2011 9:07:28 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: markomalley

This may not have been about Boeing but the desire of the Govenor and the Business Communities desires to continue to attrack business and not become Flint Michigan or other Union strongholds, name your state and city or town around the nation, oh they are so many....


7 posted on 01/21/2011 9:08:53 AM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: markomalley

>>”But you don’t have no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?” Ford asked.

Wow, a quintuple negative. The senator’s grasp of English grammar is breath-taking.


8 posted on 01/21/2011 9:09:48 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: markomalley

I the 1st amendment dead?


9 posted on 01/21/2011 9:09:54 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: markomalley

From the aryicle, the well spoken state senator,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

” state Sen. Robert Ford asked her if she had orders to crack down on labor unions. The Democrat represents the Charleston district where the Boeing plant is being built.

“But you don’t have no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?” Ford asked.’


10 posted on 01/21/2011 9:10:59 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 1rudeboy

>>>Boeing is a traitor to the State of Washington and should be demonized for taking advantage of cheap labor in South Carolina.<<<

So a corporation must always seek and remain in the most expensive labor markets so make lower profits (or go bankrupt) to avoid being a “traitor”?

If the highly paid Boeing workers in Washington State are worth their wages, another corporation or corporations, recognizing what a great bargain they are, will undoubtedly swoop in to hire them.

Do you always look for the highest prices when buy the things you want/need? If not, why do you believe Boeing should?


11 posted on 01/21/2011 9:13:44 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: markomalley

I was in the union that covered grocery and meatpackers, forgot the name. I was never real impressed, it took a long time to fire very bad workers and one of the worst was a union steward who was untouchable.

The tactics of these groups are by any means necessary. Destroy private property, break legs, and even twist the law with the help of sympothetic judges and lawyers.


12 posted on 01/21/2011 9:15:05 AM PST by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: nerdwithagun

“I was in the union that covered grocery and meatpackers, forgot the name.”

UFCW


13 posted on 01/21/2011 9:16:25 AM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: markomalley

Remain neutral? They have no problems using their own buddies in government to try to force-unionize companies. Turnaround is fair play.


14 posted on 01/21/2011 9:16:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: markomalley

Yeah, sure Mr Union Thug.

Unions are now an interconnected part of the DNC Leadership and have more control over everyday American’s lives than EVER and what room do they have to make such demands?

IMO their power today is incredible, and HUGELY increased thru Chairman Obamao’s support, and must be reduced.

Hat’s off to the Gov, keep on fighting so that these devices of Socialism don’t destroy Boeing the way they destroyed Chrysler and GM.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 9:17:04 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: vikingd00d

>>”But you don’t have no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?”

Should be:

”But you AIN’T GOT no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?”

I tell youse, good grammar’s tougher to find than Jimmy Hoffa!/s;)


16 posted on 01/21/2011 9:18:03 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: markomalley

Well, considering their buddy Barry basically awarded GM to them and the NLRB and the US Dept. of Labor is packed with union sycophants pursuing the union agenda, why would it be a problem for the governor of SC to push back?


17 posted on 01/21/2011 9:20:03 AM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: kbennkc

Go to hell you union pimp!!


18 posted on 01/21/2011 9:22:07 AM PST by dalereed
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To: vikingd00d
I had to check to make sure you weren't joking. Wow. Combine and conquer to understand.

Original: But you don’t have no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?

Step 1: But you have a mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?

Step 2: But you have no mandate that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?

Step 3: But you have no mandate that we’re going to let a labor union exist at Boeing?

I wonder if that's what he meant to say.

19 posted on 01/21/2011 9:24:21 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: K-Stater

The Attorney’s General are legal counsel for the Govs. She can direct her Atty Gen to keep the lines straight! That is usually sufficient to defeat the beat!


20 posted on 01/21/2011 9:25:41 AM PST by WVKayaker (Faith makes the discords of the present become the harmonies of the future - Robert Collyer)
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To: nerdwithagun

>>The tactics of these groups are by any means necessary. Destroy private property, break legs, and even twist the law with the help of sympothetic judges and lawyers.

I remember when Senator Packwood fought to close a federal loophole that allowed unions to legally commit arson, rape and murder as part of “labor negotiations”. The unions fought tooth and nail to keep that ability, and after they lost they railroaded Packwood out of D.C. I learned everything I need to know about unions from that incident.


21 posted on 01/21/2011 9:28:19 AM PST by vikingd00d (chown -R us ./base)
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To: markomalley

The unions want “a court order telling Haley and her director of the Department of Labor, Licensing and Regulation to butt out and remain neutral in matters concerning union activities.” How does that work? Why don’t they just go for a court order declaring their favorite lackey Governor of SC?


22 posted on 01/21/2011 9:39:22 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: dalereed
Go to hell you union pimp!!

What other civil rights don't you respect? I know you don't respect those who honor and sustain the law and Constitution , but the Governor has sworn to do so.

NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT

29 U.S.C. §§ 151-169

[Title 29, Chapter 7, Subchapter II, United States Code]

See you in hell punk bitch company goon!

23 posted on 01/21/2011 9:39:34 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: nerdwithagun

Way back when it was the Amalgamated Meatcutters


24 posted on 01/21/2011 9:44:42 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: kbennkc

There are plenty of great sites for Liberal, Socialist Union Slavemasters who think they have the right to extort whatever they want from corporations and taxpayers. Just a few recommendations.

http://www.dailykos.com/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

http://www.seiu.org/

FR, on the other hand, is for CONSERVATIVES.


25 posted on 01/21/2011 9:45:25 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

What surprises me is that the other guy was able to reply so quickly. I’d be asking “What did you say? Can you put that in English?”


26 posted on 01/21/2011 9:51:36 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Created in 1935, “The National Labor Relations Board is an independent federal agency vested with the power to safeguard employees’ rights to organize and to determine whether to have unions as their bargaining representative. The agency also acts to prevent and remedy unfair labor practices committed by private sector employers and unions.” (From their website)

While the new House members are concentrating on ‘saving’ money, they could defund this albatross.

27 posted on 01/21/2011 9:53:32 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: markomalley

The unions in Seattle have made it impossible for Boeing to compete with government subsidized Airbus, so they moved to SC. If the unions get their way in SC look for Boeing to leave the US.


28 posted on 01/21/2011 9:59:50 AM PST by epithermal
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To: Tahoe3002
Description: agency also acts to prevent and remedy unfair labor practices committed by private sector employers and unions

You said: they could defund this albatross.

I would keep funding, if they actually went after the unfair practices of unions. I remember the SEIU going after an employer a while back in a very bad way. Far from preventing or stopping the SEIU abuses, the NLRB was itself an instrument of the SEIU's abuse.

29 posted on 01/21/2011 10:13:44 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: 1rudeboy

lol


30 posted on 01/21/2011 10:18:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: kbennkc
The Governor missed a golden opportunity to keep her mouth shut.

It's been 28 years since Reagan faced down the ATC union. It's about time another Republican took up the fight.

31 posted on 01/21/2011 10:24:37 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: John Semmens
(( ping ))

(The quote is for real.)

State Sen. Robert Ford asked her (Governor Haley) if she had orders to crack down on labor unions. The Democrat represents the Charleston district where the Boeing plant is being built:

“But you don’t have no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?” Ford asked.

32 posted on 01/21/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: vikingd00d

Robert Ford is a Black Democrat. As such he’s entitled to use “Ebonics.”


33 posted on 01/21/2011 10:53:37 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: kbennkc
What other civil rights don't you respect? I know you don't respect those who honor and sustain the law and Constitution , but the Governor has sworn to do so.

In a Right to Work state, the law sustains the right of an individual to be employed whether or not he chooses to join a union, or to pay an agency fee to a union.

In other words, a union cannot make union membership, or a payment of a fee a condition of employment.

Unions cannot force a company to fire a worker because he refuses to join the union, or to pay a fee for representation in collective bargaining.

It does not preclude workers from forming a union, or belonging to an existing one.

I refer you to the Taft-Hartley Act.

If this is the case in South Carolina, please explain how Gov. Haley is violating her Oath of Office to support the US Constitution and the laws of her state.

34 posted on 01/21/2011 10:53:37 AM PST by Palmetto Patriot (Just exactly when is the next Election?)
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To: markomalley
"But you don't have no mandate from nobody that we're not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?" (Congressman) Ford asked.

That sentence should be grounds for impeachment!

35 posted on 01/21/2011 10:57:28 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: 1rudeboy

So that is what your problem is, you are a Union stooge. Now I understand your rudeness as well as non-sensible postings.


36 posted on 01/21/2011 11:02:16 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa; 1rudeboy

The “state” of the State of Washington is one of overtaxation, over-regulation and corruption and rottenness to the core, thanks largely to King County, and the union left and its supporters are to blame.

Good for Boeing for getting the hell out of hell and good for Governor Haley for standing up to the unions like a man.

Especially since the Republican Party seems in damned short supply of the male variety these days....


37 posted on 01/21/2011 11:15:22 AM PST by dblup
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To: iopscusa

The stupid, it burns. In your haste to attack me personally, you managed to ignore more than a decade of my participation on this website.


38 posted on 01/21/2011 5:15:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Above My Pay Grade; dblup
Just a little "inside baseball" on another FR econ thread. I see this argument all the time, by people who claim to be conservative. They actually are "conservatives" (not minding the DNC trolls, they are just of the Pat Buchanan variety).
39 posted on 01/21/2011 5:20:54 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I don’t know whom or what you are talking about.

My hunch is that English is not your first language.

The point here is that I am pro-open shop, pro-freedom, pro-industry and anti-union—and you are not.

You and Pat Buchanan may have some opinions in common. I don’t think that speaks very well of either of you.


40 posted on 01/21/2011 6:07:41 PM PST by dblup
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To: markomalley

Five negatives in one sentence. No bad, Dear Senator.


But during her confirmation hearing, state Sen. Robert Ford asked her if she had orders to crack down on labor unions. The Democrat represents the Charleston district where the Boeing plant is being built.

“But you don’t have no mandate from nobody that we’re not going to let no labor union exist at Boeing?” Ford asked.


41 posted on 01/21/2011 6:13:13 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: dblup

I’ll just be kind to you here, and remind you that hunches are not always correct. If you stop by more econ threads, you’’ll figure me out quickly enough.


42 posted on 01/21/2011 6:13:40 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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43 posted on 01/21/2011 6:14:32 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: 1rudeboy

Save your kindness and the rest of your crap.

You were “figured out” some time ago by everybody but you.


44 posted on 01/21/2011 6:17:24 PM PST by dblup
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To: dblup

Just one more thing: what makes you think English is my second language? There are some internationally-regarded English professors who might find your opinion amusing.


45 posted on 01/21/2011 6:19:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
12 years and the noobs haven't gotten any smarter.....
46 posted on 01/21/2011 6:26:54 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’ll admit that sometimes I’ll neglect to add a sarcasm tag, but the contention that I was “’figured out’ some time ago by everybody” indicates something else, like a grudge, maybe.


47 posted on 01/21/2011 6:32:59 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Sarcasm? You are a sad and vindictive little prick full of hate. No one could fail to figure you out if they paid any attention to your history of flinging poo on FR. Cosmic justice is when Obama’s little prick Immelt sends all those union job to China, Vietnam, Mexico, Nook, or any other hellholes that you leftist seem to so admire.


48 posted on 01/23/2011 2:07:37 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

You mad?


49 posted on 01/23/2011 4:58:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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