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Will Obama mention gun control in his State of the Union?
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/01/19/5878586-will-obama-mention-gun-control-in-his-state-of-the-union ^

Posted on 01/21/2011 11:00:18 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

Now that Dick Cheney has opened the door to tighter gun restrictions, will President Barack Obama do the same?

That politically dicey question is playing out behind the scenes in the run-up to next week’s State of the Union. In the aftermath of the Tucson shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and federal Judge John Roll, gun control groups and some Democratic members of Congress are pushing to get the president to directly address the issue of gun violence in his speech to Congress next Tuesday, according to gun control advocates and congressional aides, who asked for anonymity.

Some Democratic party donors are also being urged to weigh in as part of a quiet lobbying effort to prod the president to finally speak out on an issue that he has studiously avoided since taking office, the advocates say.

“There’s a major push to get [Obama] to say something on this,” said Chad Ramsey, legislative director of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, a leading gun control group. “We’ve been told he will say something, but we’re not sure how strong it will be.”

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1 posted on 01/21/2011 11:00:20 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

NO.


2 posted on 01/21/2011 11:01:27 AM PST by Carley (IDEOLOGY TRUMPS FACTS IN THE LEFT'S QUEST FOR POWER)
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To: Red in Blue PA
WTF did Dick "Deadeye" Cheney say?
3 posted on 01/21/2011 11:04:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Red in Blue PA

If he does, he will piss off a lot of people.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 11:04:48 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Red in Blue PA
When Gore ran for pres in ‘00 he lost his home state on TN. The Rats attributed that loss in part to his allegiance to gun control legislation. Bamie and the Rats won't touch it. If they do, they'll wish that they hadn’t.
5 posted on 01/21/2011 11:05:17 AM PST by JPG (There is hope for America and her name is Sarah Palin.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cheney mention he would support limits on magazine capactiy.

He is going senile or plain dumb.


6 posted on 01/21/2011 11:05:21 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Who cares?


7 posted on 01/21/2011 11:05:45 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
>>WTF did Dick "Deadeye" Cheney say?

That perhaps we need a ban on high cap magazines. VERY disappointing.

8 posted on 01/21/2011 11:06:01 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Red in Blue PA

Chronic heart problems may lead to, among other things, degraded memory and cognative functions. Sad.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 11:07:27 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

His limited capacity shotgun didn’t exactly help his lawyer hunting buddy avoid getting shot in the face now did it?


10 posted on 01/21/2011 11:07:42 AM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: Red in Blue PA
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

FMCDH!!

11 posted on 01/21/2011 11:07:50 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Will Obama mention gun control in his State of the Union?

Does a bear poop in the woods?

12 posted on 01/21/2011 11:08:11 AM PST by BruceS
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To: Red in Blue PA

does anyone care what that bozo says? Cat’s out of the bag. He is a poser way over his head. Couldn’t care less what he thinks about anything. Community organizer - good at nothing but bulls***.


13 posted on 01/21/2011 11:08:16 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Or perhaps he is trying to get Democrats to go on the record saying the same or similar things so that the dems get crushed again next election.


14 posted on 01/21/2011 11:08:23 AM PST by Durus (The distance between us has grown, and I struggle to quantify it. Windage adjustments are done.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Obama is trying to appear more moderate and probably won’t, but you know he wants to.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 11:09:27 AM PST by Skeez (O)
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To: Red in Blue PA

We’re gonna do the moment of silence...but not for our troops...or for victims of Mexican illegals.


16 posted on 01/21/2011 11:09:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Red in Blue PA

He’s not willing to risk his higher poll numbers right now


17 posted on 01/21/2011 11:10:05 AM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: Red in Blue PA

You know he’d love to use the opportunity to bash SCOTUS for McDonald v. Chicago.

But he’s gonna be too busy lurching to the center to do it.


18 posted on 01/21/2011 11:10:05 AM PST by digger48
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To: Red in Blue PA

Okay, it’s all about compromise. We’ll support a ban on 30 round magazines if the left will support repealing the Hughes amendment of the 1986 firearm owners protection act. Allow the law abiding to own fully auto rifles without have to pay outrageous prices for one that is 25 years old!!!


19 posted on 01/21/2011 11:10:54 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: pabianice
By all means, Dick, let's infringe the freedom of law-abiding citizens based upon a knee-jerk reaction to the deeds of mentally-deranged subhumans.
20 posted on 01/21/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: pabianice
That perhaps we need a ban on high cap magazines. VERY disappointing.

A disappointment is only cause by something happening that one does not expect. Since Bush daddy banned semi-auto imports and the importation of vast quantities of ammo by xo, and Shrub stated that he would sign any gun control legislation that made it to his desk, how can this be a disappointment?

21 posted on 01/21/2011 11:11:17 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Will Mister Obama mention gun control in the SOTU?

I would bet yes, gun confiscation is a key element of the left; and, it's a chance to tar the Tea Party for something in which they had no part. His minders will, I suspect, put "common sense" gun control legislation in the speech ("common sense" being a liar's gimmick to fool folks into thinking that they would agree with the rules, that the rules would be unobstrusive, and that we somehow needed them all along.)

Probably something similar to ... " the tragic events in Tuscon remind us that there is still a need for common sense gun regulations to keep our population safe from those who can't control their hate and who would settle political discussions with violence."

.

22 posted on 01/21/2011 11:15:17 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By all means, Dick, let's infringe the freedom of law-abiding citizens based upon a knee-jerk reaction to the deeds of mentally-deranged subhumans.

And since that works so well with guns, let's try it with scissors since that abortion doctor did such horrible things with them.

23 posted on 01/21/2011 11:16:00 AM PST by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: Red in Blue PA

That door isn’t open. It never will be.


24 posted on 01/21/2011 11:16:28 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Only if he’s more of a moron than any of us imagined.


25 posted on 01/21/2011 11:16:35 AM PST by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

As an aside, since we now have a Republican governor, Lt. Governor, House, Senate, One Federal Senator and I believe the majority of Federal Congressmen, it’s kind of hard to keep your moniker.... : )


26 posted on 01/21/2011 11:19:08 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Red in Blue PA
Possibly.

But if he does mention it, his mind-numbingly dull statements will be vague enough, mealy-mouthed enough and flip-floppingly unintelligible enough that he will later, with a straight face, claim that he either spoke out FOR additional gun laws or AGAINST them, depending upon the way the political winds blow in the next year.

27 posted on 01/21/2011 11:19:35 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Carley

Expect Obama to highlight Rep. Giffords in his speech as an inspiration to the nation, but without explicit reference to gun control. When she recovers and returns to Congress, Gabby will introduce a gun control bill named for the 9-year-old girl who was killed. It has no doubt already been drafted by White House staffers and Pelosi/Reid. Pressure will be intense on Republicans not to block the bill lest they be seen as “trying to assassinate Gabby all over again.”

In 2012, Joe Biden will be eased off the ticket and made Secretary of State (Hillary Clinton will get the next open Supreme Court seat as consolation prize). Obama will then name Gabby Giffords as his VP running mate. Already canonized by the press, she will help Obama sweep to his second term. Mark my words, they have no shame and they will do this.


28 posted on 01/21/2011 11:23:38 AM PST by Argus
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Indeed!

Cannot even believe that I live in a red state again!


29 posted on 01/21/2011 11:24:56 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Argus

Right now, for Rep. Giffords, the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY is to get through rehab.


30 posted on 01/21/2011 11:26:06 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: Red in Blue PA

No,, he isn’t going senile. He is just being the NWO rino he has always been. People swallow his hawk routine as proof that he’s conservative. Here at home, he’s an open border, country club repub. Cheney is joke.


31 posted on 01/21/2011 11:27:18 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: pabianice

We already have that in California. 10 rounds in the magazine. Of course, the gang-bangers in L.A. stick to the law, of course.....


32 posted on 01/21/2011 11:28:20 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: Seaplaner
common sense gun regulations

Those of us who have been around for a while know that "common sense gun regulations" means total prohibition on gun ownership by anyone except government functionaries.

The anti-gunners never rest. They cannot be reasoned with. They cannot be appeased (every new restriction is a "good first step.") They view the meaning of "compromise" as meaning "not getting complete probition right away." They cannot be bought off. They have no mercy on those who would protect themselves and their families from violence. They cannot be educated for they have already made up their minds. This can only end one way.

  1. The achieve their goal of total prohibiton of gun ownership by everyone except police.
  2. We who believe in freedom are killed defending our freedom from the government's beloved police
  3. the anti-gunners are killed.

33 posted on 01/21/2011 11:31:29 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Biggirl

I hope you didn’t interpret my post to indicate that I believe Obama and the other Dems care about Rep. Giffords or her well-being or her priorities, any more than they really cared about Wellstone or the others they exploit. Her usefulness to them is as a symbol and a sacred cow, not an actual human being.


34 posted on 01/21/2011 11:33:29 AM PST by Argus
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To: Red in Blue PA

I hope he does. The sheeple need to be constantly reminded that this administration is socialist/fascist and will eventually take away all our rights if they stay in power.

Because of fear, it will also put more guns and ammo in the hands of the citizens which is always a good thing.


35 posted on 01/21/2011 11:34:41 AM PST by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: Argus

Sadly, it will not surprise me if Obama uses Rep. Giffords like he uses others for his own advantage and then casts them aside. The question I ask is will Rep. Giffords come back to the House at all?


36 posted on 01/21/2011 11:36:47 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: Biggirl

At some point this year, Gabby will return to the House chamber and receive a standing Ovation. The Dems require it and they will get what they need. The next steps I outlined will follow rapidly from there.

I deliberately refrain from making the obvious jokes about not needing a working brain to serve in Congress, etc.


37 posted on 01/21/2011 11:44:47 AM PST by Argus
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To: Red in Blue PA

And will he welcome Boehner as well as Bush welcomed Pelosi?
My magic 8 ball says “no.”


38 posted on 01/21/2011 11:45:30 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Argus

I agree with you about introducing that bill. I could see the Dems brazenly doing that. However, I thought I read that Gabby Giffords actually carries a gun. Not sure what her stance is on gun issues but I don’t think she would be the one to introduce it. Besides, it’s probably going to be a long time before she gets back to Congress, if ever. It’s not guaranteed she will come all the way back mentally or physically.


39 posted on 01/21/2011 11:51:12 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“Maybe we should look into getting rid of these high capacity magazines”.

Maybe dick should take a gun safety course before he opens his big mouth.

LLS

40 posted on 01/21/2011 11:51:20 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: from occupied ga
“and Shrub stated that he would sign any gun control legislation that made it to his desk,...”

Got a link for that? I don't believe GW ever said that.

41 posted on 01/21/2011 11:56:25 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U
Got a link for that? I don't believe GW ever said that.

You may not believe it, but I heard him say it on TV.

this site has some of his comments on gun control - typical RINO

42 posted on 01/21/2011 12:01:12 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: from occupied ga

This is the bottom line from the link you posted...

“If the NRA could pick a candidate, it would undoubtedly be George W. Bush. He has been a strong ally of the organization in Texas. Recent attempts to distance himself are assumed to be merely tactical. Bush follows the standard gun-owner’s line: he wants tougher penalties against gun-toting criminals, but no more regulations for worthy citizens with a pistol by the bed. He places the blame for America’s frequent gun massacres on negligent parents, a “wave of evil” and the culture of violence. As president, he would:
would bring in no new gun controls, except possibly tougher penalties for criminals using guns
opposes mandatory safety locks (but supports voluntary ones)
supports concealed-weapon laws
favors instant background checks (rather than three-day waiting periods) in shops and at gun shows
would restrict lawsuits against gun makers, which he has deterred in Texas
Source: The Economist, “Issues 2000” special Sep 30, 2000”


43 posted on 01/21/2011 12:09:31 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Bears, woods, and all that....He will open his yap about some sort of “sensible” gun regulation...


44 posted on 01/21/2011 12:17:49 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: ozzymandus

Seems to be what this, “magic negro” does best.


45 posted on 01/21/2011 1:04:21 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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46 posted on 01/21/2011 1:51:53 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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47 posted on 01/21/2011 1:54:06 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Ouderkirk

He’ll have to interrupt all the applause to do so. My money’s on more applause than ever before, since they practiced so well in Tucson.


48 posted on 01/21/2011 2:00:26 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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49 posted on 01/21/2011 2:03:44 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

He may mention gun control, but it is more likely that he will duck it.


50 posted on 01/21/2011 2:08:02 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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