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Apple 'User-Proofing' iPhones With Unremovable Screws, Sources Say [ Apple Screws ]
Fox News ^ | 1-22-11 | Reuters

Posted on 01/22/2011 2:10:23 PM PST by NoLibZone

Apple is replacing iPhone screws -- but it may be the consumers who are really getting screwed.

In line with its infamous philosophy of maintaining absolute control over its products, sources said U.S. Apple stores are replacing screws on iPhone 4s brought for servicing with tamper-proof screws to prevent anyone else from opening the device.

Kyle Wiens, chief executive of iFixit, a prominent Apple repair and parts supplier, said the purpose of the new screws is to keep people out of the iPhone and prevent them from replacing the battery. He said he noticed in November that screws were being switched.

"If you took your car in for service and they welded your hood shut, you wouldn't be very happy," he said, comparing it to shutting owners out of their iPhones.

IFixit, based in San Luis Obispo, California, has become famous in the technology world for performing "teardowns" of Apple devices, often within hours or minutes of a new product launch. The company promotes repair to cut down on electronic waste that goes to landfills.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/21/apple-iphones-unremovable-pentalobe-screws/#ixzz1BnwEDmfc

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; applescrew; appleslatestscrew; iphone
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1 posted on 01/22/2011 2:10:24 PM PST by NoLibZone
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2 posted on 01/22/2011 2:12:47 PM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: NoLibZone

Perhaps someone needs to drop a dime and give the FTC Antitrust Div. a call.


3 posted on 01/22/2011 2:13:42 PM PST by pogeybait
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To: NoLibZone

If something can be screwed (mechanical) it can be unscrewed.


4 posted on 01/22/2011 2:14:08 PM PST by boomop1
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To: boomop1

Good point. The best they can probably do is alter the shape of the screw so the typical types of screwdrivers can’t work with it. I found a few screws like that on my car when I was installing something...had to borrow a special tool from somebody who works on cars and other equipment.


5 posted on 01/22/2011 2:19:10 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: boomop1
"If something can be screwed (mechanical) it can be unscrewed drilled out."
6 posted on 01/22/2011 2:19:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: pogeybait

Sad.

I love Apple. I have three Iphone4’s. They are great.

But apple has a long history of closing off its architecture.

My first PC was a Mac IIci.

As users became more adept , Apple’s closed architecture made PC hobbyists move to what was called an IBM PC.


7 posted on 01/22/2011 2:20:21 PM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: NoLibZone
What has been screwed cannot be unscrewed.
8 posted on 01/22/2011 2:20:37 PM PST by Ken H
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To: pogeybait
Perhaps someone needs to drop a dime and give the FTC Antitrust Div. a call.

And when you or others make that call, exactly how do you explain that this practice violates "antitrust" laws?

How specifically should Apple's practice of selecting certain screws be considered a "monopolistic" activity?

9 posted on 01/22/2011 2:20:40 PM PST by doc11355
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To: NoLibZone

Please.

It won’t be long until someone starts selling the tool for it to someone other than Apple...


10 posted on 01/22/2011 2:21:06 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: NoLibZone

The screwdrivers will be on eBay in a matter of minutes.


11 posted on 01/22/2011 2:21:47 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: NoLibZone
Five rods taped together. Solder and make a handle. Super glue will replace the solder.
12 posted on 01/22/2011 2:21:51 PM PST by Domangart
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To: NoLibZone

I’d just use a bigger hammer on it.


13 posted on 01/22/2011 2:22:06 PM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone & easier to carry.)
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To: NoLibZone
7 Bucks.



14 posted on 01/22/2011 2:22:08 PM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: NoLibZone

One way that you can be tracked as to your movements is through your cell phone. The only way you can’t be tracked is to remove the battery. Interesting.


15 posted on 01/22/2011 2:22:39 PM PST by RC2
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To: NoLibZone

Time to go down to Harbor Freight and buy a package of security bits. They sell a large set of all the common security screw bits for about $10.


16 posted on 01/22/2011 2:23:57 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: NoLibZone

customers can only get unscrewed by free themselves of their cult like devotion to Apple.


17 posted on 01/22/2011 2:24:42 PM PST by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: NoLibZone

Apples strongest marketing suit over the years has been the promotion of non-Apple products.


18 posted on 01/22/2011 2:26:19 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: NoLibZone
All you gotta do is unring the bell!


19 posted on 01/22/2011 2:27:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: pogeybait

Why? If you don’t like this policy, don’t buy an iPhone. Nobody’s forcing you.


20 posted on 01/22/2011 2:29:09 PM PST by TXConservative25
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To: NoLibZone
Note to Apple:
Don't challenge retired techs like me, we consider this great fun!
21 posted on 01/22/2011 2:30:14 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: MediaMole
dapa dapa ding

22 posted on 01/22/2011 2:30:26 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

People other than Apple were selling batteries for less than the $79. Apple was not amused. They fixed the iPhone so that it could not be opened by anyone other than an authorized Apple resource.


23 posted on 01/22/2011 2:30:33 PM PST by Carley (IDEOLOGY TRUMPS FACTS IN THE LEFT'S QUEST FOR POWER)
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To: NoLibZone

How to change an iPhone 4 battery:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iPhone-4-Battery/3141/1


24 posted on 01/22/2011 2:33:56 PM PST by seton89
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To: NoLibZone

Personally, I don’t see what all the hub bub is about. It’s a closed non-user serviceable device. It’s sold that way, and everyone knows it.

If you want to get it open, and thus violate the warranty, fine, have it. Just don’t go bitching to Apple because your phone does not work right after that and they want to charge you to make it right again.

For those that worry about being tracked through your phone. Easy, leave it at home when you don’t want to be tracked, or shield it from the net with an RF blocker. Either option is the same as removing the battery.


25 posted on 01/22/2011 2:34:09 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: NoLibZone

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200317931_200317931


26 posted on 01/22/2011 2:34:44 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (0BAMAC0RN)
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To: B4Ranch

27 posted on 01/22/2011 2:35:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: NoLibZone
Lovely, Microsoft's products suck, and Apple are control freaks who want you hooked to their system/drug.

Is it me or are these two just like the Republicans and Democrats.

Time for a Tea Party Hardware/Software Combo....

28 posted on 01/22/2011 2:36:29 PM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: MediaMole
Time to go down to Harbor Freight and buy a package of security bits. They sell a large set of all the common security screw bits for about $10.

I have such a set. The pentalobe "apple blossom" bit is notably missing.

29 posted on 01/22/2011 2:38:09 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 732 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: RC2
One way that you can be tracked as to your movements is through your cell phone. The only way you can’t be tracked is to remove the battery. Interesting.

A lead lined case for said phone will do the trick.
30 posted on 01/22/2011 2:39:04 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: NoLibZone

They are using pentalobe screws that require pentalobe screwdrivers? Sounds like the people at Apple are a bunch of Ferengi - putting profits first, customers second!


31 posted on 01/22/2011 2:42:47 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: NoLibZone
The original Macintoshes, Mac Pluses and Mac Se's and Mac Classics used a torx bit, recessed in the case 8" deep to eliminate using ordinary torx drivers. I worked at a school where we used the security torx screws. Those could be defeated with a quick strike of a regular (8"+ long torx) handle to break off the inherently weak security pin.

For this pentalobe, a five point phillips is the current weapon of choice. I would also try VERY small Allen wrenches. Even the right sized flat-blade eyeglass repair driver might do the trick. You should have fresh normal screws to use in place.
32 posted on 01/22/2011 2:43:29 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“A lead lined case for said phone will do the trick.”

Can’t you just use window screen to make a Faraday Cage?


33 posted on 01/22/2011 2:45:23 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: NoLibZone
As users became more adept , Apple’s closed architecture made PC hobbyists move to what was called an IBM PC.

IBM PCs were well-established before the Mac and even Lisa. What hurt the Mac in the early days was not only the closed architecture, but the cost of configuring a business class machine, and the insistence of Apple to not play nice at the data level with the already established PCs. Mac versions of PC apps were often crap, in part because of Apple's interference (and I am NOT just talking about user interface guidelines). Lotus Jazz and dBase:Mac being two important examples.
34 posted on 01/22/2011 2:47:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
A lead lined case for said phone will do the trick.

lead is for X-rays.

35 posted on 01/22/2011 2:49:22 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Sounds like the people at Apple are a bunch of Ferengi - putting profits first, customers second!

They would argue that they don't want people taking the cases arpart to change the color or whatever, messing up the unit, and thus voiding the warranty, without Apple knowing, and being forced to pass the cost onto other customers. I don't buy it, but that would be their response.
36 posted on 01/22/2011 2:49:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: SeeSac
lead is for X-rays.

Lead is for pretty much anything. Xrays, microwaves, RF, Kryptonite.
37 posted on 01/22/2011 2:50:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
IBM PCs were well-established before the Mac and even Lisa. What hurt the Mac in the early days was not only the closed architecture, but the cost of configuring a business class machine, and the insistence of Apple to not play nice at the data level with the already established PCs. Mac versions of PC apps were often crap, in part because of Apple's interference (and I am NOT just talking about user interface guidelines). Lotus Jazz and dBase:Mac being two important examples.

The first ones were so dang slow. I remember having to take a coffe break just to change the disk.

38 posted on 01/22/2011 2:51:28 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I should think tinfoil would do it.


39 posted on 01/22/2011 2:51:49 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NoLibZone

www.harborfreight.com


40 posted on 01/22/2011 2:52:06 PM PST by shadowcat
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To: taildragger
Lovely, Microsoft's products suck, and Apple are control freaks who want you hooked to their system/drug.

It has usually been that way for a LONG time. Sometimes it works out okay. PC motherboards had USB ports for YEARS before Microfot could be bothered to make an OS that could really use them, and the big peripheral manufacturers would make devices that used them. When the iMac came out, with NO serial or SCSI ports (and Apple NEVER embraced the parallel port), it forced the manufacturers to make USB devices for the unit. This provided the impetus for MS to get on the stick.
41 posted on 01/22/2011 2:53:10 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: NoLibZone
"If you took your car in for service and they welded your hood shut, you wouldn't be very happy,"

Rolls-Royce used to have locks on the hoods that could only be opened by the dealer.

42 posted on 01/22/2011 2:53:37 PM PST by Pontiac
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As one who has worked on Apple stuff before esp the Macbooks, they are very tricky to work on!!

In the Mac notebook the screws are so tiny and they had so many different types in there that a swiss watch was a cakewalk by comparison!! The data cables has less than 5mm of extra length to make the connection from one end to another and after completing the job it makes you want to work on any other types of laptops rather than this one!!

As far as Steve Jobs changing the screws from a Philips to a new security head screw I have this comment "Hey he's been screwing people around for so long now that he feels safe in doing it again"

43 posted on 01/22/2011 2:54:14 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: NoLibZone
"If you took your car in for service and they welded your hood shut, you wouldn't be very happy,"

GM used to use torx screws on the headlight trim to 'encourage' folks to pay dealer prices to replace a burned out headlight. You could switch out a Chrysler of the same era with an ordinary phillips head.

44 posted on 01/22/2011 2:54:18 PM PST by PAR35
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To: taildragger

tea party - generic android tablet


45 posted on 01/22/2011 2:54:59 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: SeeSac
The first ones were so dang slow. I remember having to take a coffe break just to change the disk.

Very true. The hard drive was an expensive option, as it had to be external. Worse, it plugged into the FLOPPY port! No ISA slot, NUBUS, PDS (Processor Direct Slot), SCSI ... a FLOPPY port designed for data rates suited for an 800K diskette. Even Apple IIIs got more respect.
46 posted on 01/22/2011 2:57:03 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: prophetic
In the Mac notebook the screws are so tiny and they had so many different types in there that a swiss watch was a cakewalk by comparison!!

I see your Apple notebook and raise you one early '90s IBM Thinkpad. The folks at IBM had to issue print outs to compare the slightly different screws. The IBM's had to be COMPLETELY taken apart to replace a keyboard. Worse yet, a bunch went out with bad laminate on the keys, so the letters wore off after a few weeks. The Compaqs were the worst, though, as the cable connector clamp on the motherboards were so flimsy, and the only fix for a broken one was a new motherboard!
47 posted on 01/22/2011 3:00:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Lead is for pretty much anything.

People have gotten serious radiation overdoses by assuming that lead is for pretty much anything!

48 posted on 01/22/2011 3:01:16 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: NoLibZone

I am by no means a fan of the cult around Apple, but I think this is absolutely hilarious.


49 posted on 01/22/2011 3:02:01 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: SeeSac
People have gotten serious radiation overdoses by assuming that lead is for pretty much anything!

I suspect that it will be sufficent to blick an iPhone's signal home. In any event, you could always just position a dead hand to attenuate the antenna.
50 posted on 01/22/2011 3:05:22 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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