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.Cantor: I believe Obama is a US citizen (MSM in FULL cover mode for Barry!)
ap ^ | 1/23/2011 | ap

Posted on 01/23/2011 8:14:05 AM PST by milwguy

Edited on 01/23/2011 9:13:29 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The new Republican House majority leader says he doesn't think questions about President Barack Obama's citizenship should play a role in the discussion of policy matters.

Two years into the Obama administration, so-called birthers continue to argue that Obama isn't a natural-born citizen and that he hasn't proved he's constitutionally qualified to be president. Birth records in Hawaii haven't dissuaded them.


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Ever since Gov. Abercrombie reopened the Birth Certificate controversy, the response of the MSM has been very interesting.

Initially the MSM embraced Abercrombie and gave his stupid comments about 'proving' Barry was born in Hawaii more play than I thought they would. It seems the MSM actually believed the loose cannon Abercrombie knew something about Barry's birth and could deliver the goods.

It quickly became obvious that Abercrombie was talking out his ass and was clueless about Barry's actual long form birth certificate.

Friday afternoon (when all gov't officials dump bad news) Abercrombie had his press secretary put out a statement saying the Atty General would not let him release any more info. AP in particular put out this story and ALL the major media papers picked it up. Even the NY Slimes and Fox News online ran the AP story.

This morning, the coverup continued, with David Gregory ambushing Eric Cantor about the 'crazy talk' about Barry's BC. Anybody who watch Gregory's hysterical insistence that Cantor condemn ANYONE who questioned the POTUS's birth could tell this was just another part of the MSM strategy to cover up for Abercrombie's insanity in bringing up the issue again.

Look for the MSM to now let the issue die, and to attack anyone who brings it up again. The White House attack machine at work again, reining in the rogue Governor Abercrombie and trying to discredit in advance any future claims of the legitimacy of Barry's birth.

1 posted on 01/23/2011 8:14:09 AM PST by milwguy
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To: milwguy
Birth records in Hawaii haven't dissuaded them

What birth records?

That's the whole point: none have been produced. Or ever WILL be.

2 posted on 01/23/2011 8:16:43 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: milwguy

I watched it. I was hoping and hoping Cantor would say, “well if we could just see the birth certificate then the matter would be settled, wouldn’t it David?”


3 posted on 01/23/2011 8:17:02 AM PST by BreezyDog
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To: milwguy

All it will take is a couple of states to pass laws stating that a long version birth certificate is required to pass eligibilty to get on the NOV 2013 ballot .... You know the one that actually has a witness to your birth notated on it.... So that there is no question as to your constitutional eligibility ... No wonder Obama doesn’t like the constitution the way it is written...


4 posted on 01/23/2011 8:17:05 AM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: milwguy

Instruction from the ruling class.


5 posted on 01/23/2011 8:17:55 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: milwguy
Good for Cantor. He also thinks the moon is made of green cheese and that everybody has the right to their opinion.

That's fine, but Obama's genesis is not a matter of opinion but of fact.

6 posted on 01/23/2011 8:18:07 AM PST by Jim 0216
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To: milwguy

I don’t blame Cantor. After all what does it matter now? There is NO WAY the Dems will support removing him from office, if they wouldn’t remove someone with a felony perjury on him. So why bother, when there are MUCH BIGGER fish to fry. Also, for 2012...I think the Dems see a Jimmy Carter blowout (i.e., 1980) coming, and would just as well like him to go away after this term is up.


7 posted on 01/23/2011 8:18:55 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Jim 0216

They have ALL been bought off. I don’t trust anyone in Congress. Anyone.


8 posted on 01/23/2011 8:19:00 AM PST by Galtoid ( .)
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To: milwguy
First, I don't know why Republicans go on these stupid shows. They must know by now the hosts are only interested in getting them into no-win situations.

Second, if they are going to go on these shows, the best thing for them to do is say, "I'm not even going to engage."

9 posted on 01/23/2011 8:19:43 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: milwguy

Abercommie wasn’t beyond that question and neither was chrissy matthews.


10 posted on 01/23/2011 8:20:38 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: milwguy

if hillbuzz is right - it isn’t a question of citizenship, but a question of his legal name - and the documents he’s been signing that name on.


11 posted on 01/23/2011 8:21:00 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: milwguy

Let’s look into Muslim Law....My research indicates that the Father being a Muslim is the determination of the newborn’s status and the child is a Muslim.


12 posted on 01/23/2011 8:21:04 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: milwguy

hmmm...well I believe Cantor has a physical spine, even though we have never seen proof that he has a spine at all....lol.


13 posted on 01/23/2011 8:21:22 AM PST by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: milwguy
The new Republican House majority leader says he doesn't think questions about President Barack Obama's citizenship should play a role in the discussion of policy matters.

Wouldn't it be "unconstitutional" for Barry to be POTUS if he isn't a U.S. citizen? Even his buddy Abercrombie can't find any proof Barry was born in Hawaii.

14 posted on 01/23/2011 8:23:08 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Boycott GE!)
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To: BobL

Sorry but republicans would be idiots to join the birther movement.

That said, I think a few could suggest Obama tell the Hawaii governor to release his records. After all that’s what the democrat governor said would be good for the country.

And if it were any republican, they’d be asking him this every day, because there must be something embarrassing about those records.


15 posted on 01/23/2011 8:23:27 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: milwguy
As a proud birther, and one who has to periodically produce my birth certificate to maintain my security clearance, I have one thing to say Cantor et al. Let Barry O prove he was born in Hawaii.

One other thing I am not afraid to be called names either marxist dims or cowardly spineless pubbies. We "Crazies" have been right over and over again about the left's planned destruction of our country and how they are carrying it out. We are correct about this also. BTW, I want to see his college records also.

16 posted on 01/23/2011 8:24:19 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: milwguy

“Eric Cantor says he believes Obama is a citizen...”

— — —

Hey Eric, since you are so sure, why don’t you provide ALL the evidence you have that has made you believe Zero is a US citizen. I need to be as sure as you are, so just provide the proof for us, mmmkay?....


17 posted on 01/23/2011 8:24:32 AM PST by HighWheeler
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To: Sacajaweau

HE IS a muslim, so whats your point?


18 posted on 01/23/2011 8:25:37 AM PST by himno hero
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To: milwguy
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says he believes Obama is a citizen and that most Americans are beyond that question.

Ignorant and stupid and guessing not verifying is no way to go through Congress...if this guy is a leader we are on the Titanic.

19 posted on 01/23/2011 8:27:04 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: milwguy

Whatever cantor says must be viewed with the knowledge the dirt bag supported and whipped support for tarp, and now he tries to lie about that.


20 posted on 01/23/2011 8:29:10 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: HighWheeler
Gotta be careful with language here.

Of course Obama is a citizen -- no one is questioning that. But the Constitution requires the president be a natural-born citizen -- a critical distinction.

We need to be vigilent in correcting this intentional attempt to confuse the issue (just like with the "anti-immigrant" vs. anti-illegal immigrant distinction).

21 posted on 01/23/2011 8:30:02 AM PST by glennaro
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To: milwguy

and i believe he is a commie with foreign/anti-American allegiances hell bent on diminishing and possibly destroying the United States

since believing without proof is all that is needed... i say arrest him now


22 posted on 01/23/2011 8:30:24 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: BreezyDog

If I were Cantor, I’d simply quote the greatest President of our lifetime... “I did not have.....” oops sorry... “Trust But Verify!”


23 posted on 01/23/2011 8:32:28 AM PST by Froggie
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To: milwguy

“Cantor says he believes that Obama wants what’s best for the country and that there are honest disagreements over how to achieve that”

...I’m extremely dissapointed in that statement! He knows damn well that the kenyan wants what’s best for his dream of Marxism and that’s NOT what’s best for the country. We need term limits for linguini spined Rinos like Cantor!


24 posted on 01/23/2011 8:33:56 AM PST by albie
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To: milwguy

Cantor is just speaking for Speaker Boehner, who is apparently afraid to subpoena the birth records. If Boehner, Issa and Cantor are all too timid to send out a subpoena, then there isn’t much hope for anything serious happening. In that regard, I noticed that Cantor this morning was also arguing against making any significant changes in Social Security or any of the other welfare programs. It increasingly looks to me like the GOP leadership just wants to be in the majority so that they can be in the majority, but they have no idea what they want to do with any power that being in the majority confers.


25 posted on 01/23/2011 8:35:22 AM PST by Walts Ice Pick ("I'm not going to shut up!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Texas Eagle
First, I don't know why Republicans go on these stupid shows. They must know by now the hosts are only interested in getting them into no-win situations.

I agree totally.

26 posted on 01/23/2011 8:35:35 AM PST by truthkeeper (Life is a pre-existing condition - Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: rolling_stone
...if this guy is a leader we are on the Titanic.

Got life jackets?

27 posted on 01/23/2011 8:36:10 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: BobL
After all what does it matter now?

It matters because the truth is important. Because senior dims know he is not eligible and that is why his college records are redacted. Because in spite of constitutional ineligibility they pushed him upon the American public. Because it is important for Americans to know that the dims will tell any lie and commit any fraud to achieve political power. Because the dims have as much contempt for Americans as they have for the Constitution. Because no law matters in the least to dims. I could go on and on. A valid Hawaiian birth certificate will never be produced. BO doesn't have one. Look for fraud now. They have had a lot of time. I want to see all his college records. You will find the answers there.

28 posted on 01/23/2011 8:37:16 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: BreezyDog

Cantor and the rest of the GOPers who abetted the DNC and Juan McCain in the fraud are not going to ever admit they question Obama’s qualification because that could be used against them when the truth comes out.

If they know and they did nothing, or worse, coordinated a political strategy to cover it up (they did), they participated in a crime of treason.

So they are playing “don’t ask, don’t tell” so they can be seen as not knowing about the fraud. But they are all liars. They know Obama is not able to produce the proper documentation for qualification.

They have watched the court cases where he fights tooth and nail to avoid presenting his citizenship documentation. They know people in their party were asking questions during the last election and they did all they could to cover it up rather than facing the question as is their constitutional duty. They know... They think they have “progressed” beyond the legalities of silly old document.


29 posted on 01/23/2011 8:38:47 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: BreezyDog

“Cantor says he believes that Obama wants what’s best for the country and that there are honest disagreements over how to achieve that”

To quote Freeper marron:

“We did not send these guys to Washington to help Obama govern, we sent them to stop him!”

I don’t think Cantor got that message!!


30 posted on 01/23/2011 8:39:32 AM PST by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: Galtoid

That is correct. They have ALL been bought off by corporate interests, affordable housing groups, etc.

If you only knew how much power LaRaza has in DC, you would be absolutely shocked.


31 posted on 01/23/2011 8:40:01 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: milwguy

Some over at the FR Sunday Morning Talkshow thread a while ago were applauding Cantor’s words.

Some over at the FG Sunday Morning Talkshow thread a while ago were applauding Cantor’s words.

Some over at the FR Sunday Morning Talkshow thread a while ago were applauding Cantor’s words.

Just thought it needed to be said and repeated.


32 posted on 01/23/2011 8:40:51 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: milwguy
It doesn't so much matter where satan spawned him.

His baby daddy was NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN!

That makes him a dual citizen at best.

NOT NBC! NOT ELIGIBLE!

33 posted on 01/23/2011 8:41:30 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: milwguy

It sounds as if he just avoided the question. And he refused to call birthers “crazy.”

Nevertheless, how on earth can these jerks say that they “believe” Obama is a citizen, when no proof whatsover has been offered, and when Obama refuses to provide any?

Why not at least say, “I don’t really understand why Obama refuses to release any of his records: including a valid birth certificate or any of his college records.”


34 posted on 01/23/2011 8:41:53 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bgill

Well, well. Should have read the cheers on this thread as well. I’m very disappointed in FR this morning.


35 posted on 01/23/2011 8:43:28 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: milwguy

Why? That’s my question. Why do you believe it?


36 posted on 01/23/2011 8:43:56 AM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: milwguy

A few years ago after moving to a new state I needed to change my driver’s license and I had to provide several forms of ID. I brought my birth certificate which was a hospital-produced certificate with a raised seal and the only copy of it that I or my parents ever had.

I was told that it was invalid and that the only legitimate birth certificate they would accept was a government generated birth certificate. I ordered a copy online from VitalCheck for about $30. It came in the mail after a few weeks and I still have it.

I went to VitalCheck and filled out the form for ordering a birth certificate for Obama. After putting in the name, date of birth, state and city I received the following message.

“A certified birth certificate that can typically be used for travel, passport, proof of citizenship, social security, driver’s license, school registration, personal identification and other legal purposes. Birth Certificates are available for events that occurred in Hawaii from 1853 to present.

Important Note - this agency issues certificates for emergencies only. You will be requested to submit proof of urgency, such as plane tickets, etc. Office hours are 7:45 a.m. - 2:30 p.m, Monday through Friday.”

So, for the past two years and for years prior all Zero had to do was call the number provided and pay a small fee to have an official, government issued birth certificate mailed to him at the White House. Instead, he has spent millions trying to prevent it’s disclosure.

Why in the world would someone not simply produce the document? A birth certificate contains no information that is not already publicly available. Or does it?


37 posted on 01/23/2011 8:44:34 AM PST by garv (Conservatism in '12)
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To: milwguy

The only way, and I’m not sure even this will work, is for several States to require any candidate to prove they are eligible before that candidate can be placed on the ballot.

It’s amazing that this question even has to be entertained. Esp since proof of ‘Natural born’ would be so easy, if true.


38 posted on 01/23/2011 8:45:01 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Nuc 1.1

Believe me I’m as interested as anyone in getting to the truth. My point is that going after Clinton didn’t get us anywhere - only got Clinton sympathy and made us look petty.

As to Obama, personally, I don’t think the native-born rule even means anything today. I went to college at a large school and believe me, being born in this country sure as hell did not mean people supported it. In fact, I would argue that the non-American students supported this country in greater percentages than the American-born students. That’s just the way things are.

As to showing the country that he is a fraud - do you really think the country is going to gasp and want him thrown out of power. Pleeeezzzzeee - you know better. It will (again) backfire on us.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.


39 posted on 01/23/2011 8:45:14 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: milwguy

Yes, and I believe pigs fart truffles.....no wonder the liberals love them...


40 posted on 01/23/2011 8:45:46 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: milwguy
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says he believes Obama is a citizen

The problem is not whether Obama is a citizen, but whether he is a natural born citizen as per the requirements for President in the Constitution.

That stated, with the information that Hawaii had been making birth certificates for people born out of the country, it is all the more reason for Obama to do the responsible thing and put this issue to rest. It is especially incongrous since Presidential Candidate McCain released his long form birth certificate in the course of the 2008 campaign.


41 posted on 01/23/2011 8:49:00 AM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: BobL
...I think the Dems see a Jimmy Carter blowout...coming...

I would ask them against which Republican candidate? We'd like to know. Defeating the Bamster will not a slam dunk for any candidate, given the task of convincing a gullible, dumbed-down, hands-out, living-in-the-here-and-now electorate that he is doing damage to the country long-term.

42 posted on 01/23/2011 8:50:21 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: BreezyDog
I watched it. I was hoping and hoping Cantor would say, “well if we could just see the birth certificate then the matter would be settled, wouldn’t it David?”

Perhaps followed up with: "Besides, who wouldn't want to proudly show their certificate of birth as a citizen of this great country? I'd consider it an honor to show mine to anyone who asks".

43 posted on 01/23/2011 8:50:52 AM PST by Starboard
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To: milwguy

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”


45 posted on 01/23/2011 8:51:44 AM PST by oursacredhonor
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To: magooey

Yes, and did anyone see the interview?

If so, can you confirm just who lowered the bar of the question to “US citizen” instead of “natural born citizen”?


46 posted on 01/23/2011 8:52:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Williams
Sorry but Republicans would be idiots to join the birther movement.

I agree if that means the movement will not stop "the one" from being on the ballot in 2012. It won't. But curious people still want to know, and have the right to know, is the Bamster American-born?

47 posted on 01/23/2011 8:54:52 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I was traveling through Africa in 2008. They were quite vocal about him being a natural born African. A natural born Kenyan. All the muslims, especially the money traders had pictures posted of their hero in his arabic garb.....


48 posted on 01/23/2011 8:55:39 AM PST by himno hero
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To: milwguy

I was entirely with the recently fired Chris Matthews on this.

Those birthers were all whackheads! And it’s about time they were proven to be the bigoted, dumb-ass, moose-hunting, bible-carrying, gun-happy loons they are.

42% of Americans are crazy! Unfortunately because of a thing called democracy in which people vote for all sorts of irrational considerations (oratory, hair-style, hoop-shooting, hope and change) having 42% of the population (all crazy as truthers) mistrusting a fine candidate like Obama was a needless political liability.

So what to do? As the great Chris Matthews suggested: “Come on, Barack, show the Birth Certificate!”

My leg was already tingling in anticipation.

At last the day would come and those evil conservatives would get what they deserved.

Unfortunately Obama was too busy and he ignored Chris Matthews. But then - hope and change! - Governor Abercrombie’s stepped in to take the slack.

Like me he was outraged that anyone could in the year 2011 still mistrust a negro. He, the Governor of Hawaii who was personal friends with Obama’s parents, the Kenyan scholar and his lovely wife, would settle it once and for all.

And once again my leg tingled in eager anticipation.

Those bigoted, dumb-ass, moose-hunting, bible-carrying, gun-happy loons...

Eh? What’s that you said? “Can’t be released without WHOSE consent?”

Why those bigoted, dumb-ass, moose-hunting, bible-carrying, gun-happy loons!

Moral of the story? If Americans allow themselves to be treated this way, then I suggest a Constitutional Amendment REQUIRING the president to be a foreigner!


49 posted on 01/23/2011 8:55:44 AM PST by Youaskedforit
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To: luvbach1

“I would ask them against which Republican candidate? We’d like to know. Defeating the Bamster will not a slam dunk for any candidate, given the task of convincing a gullible, dumbed-down, hands-out, living-in-the-here-and-now electorate that he is doing damage to the country long-term.”

I’m not predicting it - considering the ability of the Reps to screw things up (aka, McCain) - but I would certainly fear it, if I were a Dem.

As to who - DeMint, that simple - if someone could get him to run.


50 posted on 01/23/2011 8:55:44 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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