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Article at AAPS on Obama's use of hypnosis in his speeches has been scrubbed (vanity)
1/22/2011

Posted on 01/23/2011 3:39:49 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies

Back on October 25, 2008, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons published an article on Obama's use of neurolinguistic programming in his speeches entitled "Oratory—or hypnotic induction?" I thought it worth mentioning to you guys that I discovered today that the article in question had been scrubbed from AAPS archives. The title is still listed in the AAPS archives, but the article itself is gone.

An article entitled "An Examination of Obama’s Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches" is quite similar to the one in question and as of this writing has not yet been scrubbed from the internet. Anyone interested in this subject should make a personal copy.

Whether or not a person puts stock in such thinking, I thought it worth mentioning that Obama or one of his minions apparently believed the article sufficiently damaging that it took steps to deprive the public from considering the analysis presented.


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1 posted on 01/23/2011 3:39:50 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
He ends all sentences with an “s” sound and whistles it. Listen closely, next time. Seriously.
2 posted on 01/23/2011 3:44:46 PM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: ryan71
Not saying it means anything. It's just weird.
3 posted on 01/23/2011 3:45:57 PM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: ryan71

I have noticed that. What do you make of it (I thought initially it might be some Hahhhvahd affectation, but folks keep mentioning that it has some other significance)?


4 posted on 01/23/2011 3:47:49 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Basically, the government owns the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons now. Saying nasty things about your owner is bad for business.


5 posted on 01/23/2011 3:49:32 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: ryan71

so what does this say about his speechwriters?


6 posted on 01/23/2011 3:50:19 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Ever tried the Way Back Machine for restoring no longer existing webpages, etc.???

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

All ya need is the old URL...provided they have archived that url to begin with,,,


7 posted on 01/23/2011 3:52:03 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

A long time ago I called out his use of NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming), almost textbook case and his speechwriter, Lakoff, taught it . It is something I study and use in my job and recognize it immediately.


8 posted on 01/23/2011 3:52:49 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Even I, a no nothing Granny could tell what he was doing.
That part was transparent.


9 posted on 01/23/2011 3:55:13 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Told you I was a ‘know nothing. grrr


10 posted on 01/23/2011 3:55:43 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Steely Tom

AAPS is a conservative group. Ron Paul used to be a member, might still be. And IIRC the AAPS file a suit last year to invalidate Obamacare.


11 posted on 01/23/2011 3:55:54 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: japaneseghost

ping of interest


12 posted on 01/23/2011 3:55:59 PM PST by mnehring
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To: TribalPrincess2U

There is a thing about NLP techniques is that one has to have a belief in the speaker before you can really be influenced. If you are a core skeptic, you don’t allow a mindless listening, so instead, you are more critical to see patterns instead of being influenced by them.

IE, Good for you.


13 posted on 01/23/2011 3:58:11 PM PST by mnehring
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To: ryan71
Thank You Satan 1:51☠

Explains a lot!

14 posted on 01/23/2011 3:58:24 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: gunnyg
I used the way back machine and got this message...
We're sorry, access to http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089 has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.

15 posted on 01/23/2011 3:58:52 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
AAPS is a conservative group. Ron Paul used to be a member, might still be. And IIRC the AAPS file a suit last year to invalidate Obamacare.

They can file lawsuits until the sun burns out. The government owns them lock stock and barrel.

16 posted on 01/23/2011 3:59:43 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: gunnyg

even cached articles in the Way Back Machine can be locked...


17 posted on 01/23/2011 4:00:49 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: ryan71

What it is is annoying. I can hardly ssssstand to listen to him because of it. Perhaps bad dental work?


18 posted on 01/23/2011 4:01:07 PM PST by brytlea
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Copy of AAPS piece archived here.
19 posted on 01/23/2011 4:01:46 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; ryan71
I have noticed that [ending his sentences with a 'hissing s']. What do you make of it?...

Just emulating his serpent master...

20 posted on 01/23/2011 4:02:48 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Yeh, I have gotten that too...still...I have continued to restore many of my old webpages with Wayback Machine....websites continue to go bellyup for various reasons...

gonna get worse wot with the “authorities” and their craze to shet us all tfup...


21 posted on 01/23/2011 4:03:24 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: mnehring
"....his use of NLP...."

So, what fraction of the populace is susceptible to this technique?

22 posted on 01/23/2011 4:04:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Steely Tom

How does the government own them...I thought it was just an association of doc’s?


23 posted on 01/23/2011 4:06:26 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: Paladin2

all of us...the merchants have used it fer years...called advertisn’

i rate merchants i click above or below politicians all of whom are rated as...scum...


24 posted on 01/23/2011 4:07:06 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Paladin2
So, what fraction of the populace is susceptible to this technique?

Everyone is to a point because it is just innate human nature- nothing magical. It would be easier to quantitative those who aren't affected by it, who go into a situation where they are skeptical and analytical from the start.

25 posted on 01/23/2011 4:07:46 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
How does the government own them...

ObamaCare.

26 posted on 01/23/2011 4:07:55 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

From the beginning, in the 2008 election campaign, and ever since, I never could make it past the opening minute or two of ANY of his speeches - it was a non-rational sense I have. Now I know why.


27 posted on 01/23/2011 4:08:09 PM PST by Wuli (e)
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To: Paladin2

all of us...the merchants have used it fer years...called advertisn’

i rate merchants i click above or below politicians all of whom are rated as...scum...


28 posted on 01/23/2011 4:08:17 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Check this http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QVp8igGp6ygJ:theguru216.wordpress.com/2010/11/20/oratory%E2%80%94or-hypnotic-induction/+%22Oratory%E2%80%94or+hypnotic+induction%3F%22&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Also, the Wayback machine is blocked from acess to the original paper.

Wasn’t something like this what Jared Loughner meant in his ramblings about “grammar”?


29 posted on 01/23/2011 4:09:02 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

That is just scary as h$ll!


30 posted on 01/23/2011 4:09:15 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: gunnyg

keep trying the WB Machine...remember, they are evil...but they’re also ph*****up!


31 posted on 01/23/2011 4:12:00 PM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Steely Tom

Gotcha!


32 posted on 01/23/2011 4:14:38 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: mnehring

Back in ‘08 sometime I listened to the bastard for the first and last time (not counting where TV and Radio jips him faster than I cab switch off for two years now)

And I actually was jealous of his ability to cobra-sway anybody he spoke to. Jealous in that we didn’t have anybody on our side that could mesmerize.

Sarah is a more natural mesmerizer. But with natural truth and decency. Note how the left can’t resist her, even though their paychecks depend on them doing so.


33 posted on 01/23/2011 4:16:05 PM PST by txhurl
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To: mnehring
"It might just be the letter “O,” but it also resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists."

HarpO already owns the O. Zer0's l0g0 always reminds me of a zer0.

34 posted on 01/23/2011 4:16:30 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

It could be any single item, a letter, a symbol, whatever. It is nature to unite behind your team’s flag. The simpler the flag the better.


35 posted on 01/23/2011 4:19:40 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; brytlea
I think that one sound he makes is responsible for the entire media labeling him “articulate”.

‘Cause it's not the substance.

36 posted on 01/23/2011 4:20:40 PM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: Paladin2
I think it very much depends on how good the practitioner is as well as susceptibility of the subject.

In the case of Obama's cult following, the proof is in the pudding (i.e. there is a huge brain-dead group of Kool-Ade drinkers at each of his rallies). You can look at their faces and see that they have been hypnotize...they are mesmerized. Very similar to the faces in the crowd at a Hitler rally.

37 posted on 01/23/2011 4:22:25 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
I think this is true, and believe it. 0' is skilled at saying what people want to hear while subliminally transmitting his marxist agenda. Below, see the subtle, devious, and crafty use of his hands, sending secret subliminal messages to the audience in this rare photograph:


38 posted on 01/23/2011 4:24:34 PM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Well, ahh, if you, ahh, post it, uhhhh, here, it ummm, won’t ahhhh be be be ummmm SCRUBBED!


39 posted on 01/23/2011 4:29:13 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand.)
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To: C210N

Zero was post-American from the age of probably 17.

And he made no secret of it, in fact celebrated it.

Half of America is Post-America.


40 posted on 01/23/2011 4:32:19 PM PST by txhurl
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
What do you make of it?


41 posted on 01/23/2011 4:37:15 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
IT'S-


42 posted on 01/23/2011 4:41:21 PM PST by mikrofon (Change of perspective)
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To: Paladin2
So, what fraction of the populace is susceptible to this technique

It varies. At any given time, it's exactly the percentage of the population that "Approves" or "Strongly Approves" of Obama.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

43 posted on 01/23/2011 4:45:13 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; snowrip

Related

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2120730/posts#20


44 posted on 01/23/2011 4:52:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: mnehring

Yep, I think that describes me.


45 posted on 01/23/2011 4:53:28 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: brytlea

“What it is is annoying. I can hardly ssssstand to listen to him because of it. Perhaps bad dental work?”

It always strikes me as the stereotypical homosexual lisp.


46 posted on 01/23/2011 4:56:19 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
This is my area of research and study.

The techniques O’Bummer used are very typical of what he observed every time he went to church with Rev. Wright.

The techniques are the same utilized by stage hypnotists to manipulate individuals and entire audiences, They are also used in various religious settings such as revival meetings and the charismatic movement. I have visited these churches and observed the techniques in action. They induce a trance where the individual loses their ability to discern truth from non truth.

The techniques are simple.

Step one, allow the volume of your voice to go up and down. Shout and then whisper.

Step two, create an imbalance in the person's emotions. Tell a very sad story and then a happy one. This is to destabilize the person. Music serves to amplify this step.

Step three, increase the emotional destabilization by introducing extreme anger, fear, or guilt. This is why O’Bummer demonized Bush so often.

Step four, offer a way to help the person get rid of their extreme emotion. The individual will experience a profound physiological and psychological experience and in religious settings, will claim to be born again. It is a false experience as the individual surrenders their will to another person and not to a higher power.

Hitler used the same oratory hypnotic techniques.

47 posted on 01/23/2011 4:59:45 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: mnehring
Can a person who has been successfully subjected to NLP be, for lack of a better term, reverse engineered to determine what post-hypnotic suggestions, triggers, and commands were planted and by what specific means (pacing, anchors, etc)?

Do you think that mass hypnosis has the same effect as cult induction (i.e. are the subjects instructed to unconsciously avoid thinking, reality, self-analysis, idol criticism, etc).

48 posted on 01/23/2011 5:01:07 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: ApplegateRanch
"Wasn’t something like this what Jared Loughner meant in his ramblings about “grammar”?"

Who other than Loughner would know what he meant ... the guy is quite disturbed.

49 posted on 01/23/2011 5:06:47 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I think too many people have a pop-culture image of this where they think it is like Kreskin where it is on or off.. it is simply suggestion like marketing. The only way one can be ‘turned off’ would be to educate one to be aware of the uses- but even then, they are susceptible at that point (even to a higher degree) to those who claim they ‘reveal’ answers that the ‘sheep’ believe.


50 posted on 01/23/2011 5:07:58 PM PST by mnehring
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