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U.S. Postal Service to close 2,000 post offices
Chicago Breaking Business ^ | 1/24/11

Posted on 01/24/2011 8:16:56 AM PST by Libloather

U.S. Postal Service to close 2,000 post offices
By Dow Jones Newswires-Wall Street Journal
Posted today at 7:13 a.m.

With red ink showing no sign of stopping, the U.S. Postal Service is hoping to ramp up a cost-cutting program that is already eliciting yelps of pain around the country. Beginning in March, the agency will start the process of closing as many as 2,000 post offices, on top of the 491 it said it would close starting at the end of last year.

In addition, it is reviewing another 16,000 — half of the nation’s existing post offices — that are operating at a deficit, and lobbying Congress to allow it to change the law so it can close the most unprofitable among them. The law currently allows the postal service to close post offices only for maintenance problems, lease expirations or other reasons that don’t include profitability.

The news is crushing in many remote communities where the post office is often the heart of the town and the closest link to the rest of the country. Shuttering them, critics say, also puts an enormous burden on people, particularly on the elderly, who find it difficult to travel out of town.

The postal service argues that its network of some 32,000 brick-and-mortar post offices, many built in the horse-and-buggy days, is outmoded in an era when people are more mobile, often pay bills online and text or email rather than put pen to paper. It also wants post offices to be profitable to help it overcome record $8.5 billion in losses in fiscal year 2010.

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1 posted on 01/24/2011 8:16:59 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Government management at its best/s. Wow, I wonder what they would do with health care?


2 posted on 01/24/2011 8:21:08 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Libloather

3 posted on 01/24/2011 8:21:40 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Libloather

In the country the post office service persons are very good. In the city, not so good, so those are ones they will keep. Also the post office sends junk mail asking me to buy stamps by mail, but the local post office gets brownie points for selling me stamps, so they compete against themselves.


4 posted on 01/24/2011 8:21:50 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Libloather
None of the worthless employees will be fired though.

Obama will not allow his constituent welfare program to end.

5 posted on 01/24/2011 8:22:51 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Libloather

Nations larget employer greater than Walmart has a pullback. If Congress had brains they would put out bids to spin off 50% and let Fedex, UPS and even Walmart bid on the business and run 1/2 in their model vs. the current one and see the results.


6 posted on 01/24/2011 8:23:44 AM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Libloather
I'm kind of astonished that there's a need for 32,000 postoffices nationwide.

Mailboxes? Sure. But post offices, actually staffed and so on? I don't see it.

I still think that sending a letter cross-country, for less than 50 cents, is pretty cheap.

7 posted on 01/24/2011 8:23:49 AM PST by wbill
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To: Bitsy

8 posted on 01/24/2011 8:24:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Libloather

Here in Hollywood, we have FIVE PO’s within driving distance of 5 minutes. Letr’s say u hate the clerks at 1 PO, you could literally walk to the others within 15 minutes.


9 posted on 01/24/2011 8:24:56 AM PST by max americana
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To: Libloather

Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™


10 posted on 01/24/2011 8:28:01 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: max americana
Here in Hollywood, we have FIVE PO’s within driving distance of 5 minutes. Letr’s say u hate the clerks at 1 PO, you could literally walk to the others within 15 minutes.

So it is not the rural post offices which should be close/punished, it is those in the larger cities.

11 posted on 01/24/2011 8:29:44 AM PST by madison10
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To: Libloather

Our federal government is admitting it is not competent to perform one of the few jobs it is actually empowered to perform.

Wow! That certainly increases my confidence in its ability to handle the tens of thousands of issues it has NOT been empowered to insert itself in to but which it involves itself any way...


12 posted on 01/24/2011 8:30:21 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Libloather

The Post Office will mail you as many Priority Mail boxes as you want - all free of charge.

Perhaps if they want to save money, that would be one place to look.


13 posted on 01/24/2011 8:30:54 AM PST by reagan_fanatic
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To: Libloather
...remote communities where the post office is often the heart of the town...

Maybe in 1811, not so in 2011. (Posted from a remote community)

14 posted on 01/24/2011 8:31:58 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Libloather

Use the Sam Drucker model. Heck, you can already buy stamps at Winn Dixie. Just don’t get your store reclassified from a 3ND to a 2PD-BB!!!


15 posted on 01/24/2011 8:32:30 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: Libloather

As post offices close mail orders and Ebayers will have a hard time of it. This is monies the government wants.

The government wants to empty the rural areas completly for the elite.

Increase the price of gas, and cut off the post office is a good start.


16 posted on 01/24/2011 8:39:41 AM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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To: Libloather

Well, they “de-activated” our mailbox about a year ago. I used to be able to walk to it to deposit my mail.

Now I have to drive to the replacement box.

Maybe they’ll de-activate that one too so we’ll have to take a bus.


17 posted on 01/24/2011 8:41:16 AM PST by eCSMaster (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: ConservaTexan

-—(Posted from a remote community)——

I have occasion to travel into south east Kentucky along the new and much improved US23. The hiway follows the old route from coal village to coal village for miles and miles. Much of the area is now a continuous strip city. Even off the main road many of the villages have grown toward each other and roads are improved to the point that it is easy to go from one to another.

Each of these villages has a post office. One big facility could serve many of the small ones, likely better than now.

Also, the USPO no longer serves as it once did. There is UPS and Fedex. Local shops service all three, including selling stamps and other postal services. The need that once was is no more.


18 posted on 01/24/2011 8:42:00 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: ConservaTexan
Here along the Yukon, they won't close a fed park that spends millions and is used as a private park for govt, they chase the locals out.

Then they want to close our post office? What do you do when there is no road to where you live besides moving????? Mailing canned goods in is our main way of getting food here from Sams.

I think they better get their priorities figured out.

19 posted on 01/24/2011 8:50:52 AM PST by Eska
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To: KeyLargo
Around my parts, I would NOT call these people worthless. Some brutal weather they have to contend with right now and my mail lady is like clockwork, everyday.
Our postal office is nothing special for the small community it services and it does a good job. Maybe they can branch off and just go private; I have no doubt they could turn a profit.
20 posted on 01/24/2011 8:52:29 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: ConservaTexan
...remote communities where the post office is often the heart of the town...

Maybe in 1811, not so in 2011. (Posted from a remote community)

You got that right.

I live near a town of >500 people...there's >1000 people in the whole zip code according to the 2000 census (I doubt it will change much)

We have a large, modern, brick PO with two employees...far larger than our needs, and all the homes are serviced by rural carriers.

Within a 20 mile radius of that PO are 5 more POs including a large PO servicing a town of about 7000.

I've often wondered why the Postal service didn't just close all POs within a 25 mile radius of the big one and service everyone with rural carriers as that's how we get our mail anyway.

A quick map check tells me they could close 11 post offices (minimum).

Too much waste

21 posted on 01/24/2011 8:57:19 AM PST by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: martin_fierro

sad thing is fedex and ups do most of the long haul express and priority mail for usps now, and they still are 8.5 billion in the hole...


22 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:25 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Libloather

The post office is obsolete. All mail can be delivered electronically and packages can be delivered either by UPS or FedEx.

Time for this dinosaur to go extinct.


23 posted on 01/24/2011 8:59:49 AM PST by lone star annie
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To: Chickensoup
There are a lot of these Podunk-sized post offices here in southwest Pennsylvania as I suspect is the case with most of the country. The oldest are about 1950's vintage, the newest about 1990's.

Most of the post offices are nice, brick buildings and most offer courteous service with minimal waiting times. They also offer ample parking.

I suspect these will be the first targeted for closure and people will be directed to those without much parking so that the people herded to them can provide additional fine revenue for the bigger cities.

And businesses will be lining up to buy the closed post office buildings in the smaller towns. < / sarcasm >

24 posted on 01/24/2011 9:04:55 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: WayneS

Read post 12 above, it sums up why big government is not the solution, it’s the problem.


25 posted on 01/24/2011 9:06:08 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: Libloather
"Berserk Shooter Nurseries To Close. Women and Minorities Rarely Hit"


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 01/24/2011 9:06:13 AM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Libloather
Won't happen,,, How else will the Obama voters get their welfare checks?

Not to mention over 1/2 the clerks are minorities. (white men not welcome) Do the math for the next to years. I know a guy that works for the USPS as an Electronic Technicians,, he calls it the W&SC. (Welfare and Social Club)

PS,, the USPS does use some high tech stuff. Most letter size mail is only touched by the person that picks it up and the person that delivers it. The rest is mechanical/computers.

Side note,, Affirmative Action is alive and well at the USPS,, they just lowered the testing standards for the higher paying maintenance jobs to facilitate more minorities.

27 posted on 01/24/2011 9:07:53 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: Libloather

In the beginning, a government-run post office was necessary to provide the infrastructure because there was no private alternative. The Post Office has outlived itself.


28 posted on 01/24/2011 9:10:16 AM PST by Kenton (Just my $0.02 worth...)
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To: madison10
I work at a huge postal facility (emp. since '86). Many employees are being offered early retirement with an enticement bonus. Retirement and health care is very costly for USPS.

We're getting less mail but fewer and fewer employees mean a much heavier workload per employee.

Smaller post offices: Where I live in Beverly MA, there is one huge post office and two smaller ones--one in Beverly Farms, a well-to-do area, and one in Prides Crossing, ditto. (John Updike used to live nearby) Don't know if those 2 smaller offices would be among those closing (people would have to go downtown). There have been some "college post office" branches selected for closure.

Don't know much fat at USPS HQ could be cut (further...). Some of the deficit could be made up with a rate increase, but at a time when newspapers cost $1.50 and you can send a letter 3,000 miles away for 44 cents (I know, email "free"), you'd think they could boost it to 50 cents or so to make up these deficits. It wouldn't be backbreaking. (A move to up the rate to 46 cents failed).

Of course the PO has also done things like spend millions to sponsor Lance Armstrong...

29 posted on 01/24/2011 9:15:05 AM PST by raccoonradio (..)
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To: max americana
Here in Hollywood, we have FIVE PO’s within driving distance of 5 minutes. Letr’s say u hate the clerks at 1 PO, you could literally walk to the others within 15 minutes.

The bad news, of course, is that all of those loathesome employees will be spread out among the remaining post offices.

30 posted on 01/24/2011 9:16:40 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: MrPiper

Isn’t there a move to dist. checks for tax refunds or social security right into bank accounts, no more mailed checks? Thought I heard something about that


31 posted on 01/24/2011 9:17:03 AM PST by raccoonradio (..)
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To: MrPiper
Won't happen,,, How else will the Obama voters get their welfare checks?

Most do not get checks now. They get welfare cards (debit cards). Caliornia tracked the spending and CA welfare dudes spent $69 million in three years out of state. A lot of it at Nevada casinos and Gulf Coast cruises.

32 posted on 01/24/2011 9:17:57 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


33 posted on 01/24/2011 9:18:03 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: wbill

In many cases it the only thing that allows a little town to still officially exist. I worked for the USPS as an environmental consultant few years back. Talking with some of the small office postmasters it became apparent for some of these small towns the PO is all they had left. As one PM told me, “They closed the school, the trains don’t stop here anymore and the interstate passed us by. The PO is all we have that still makes us a town”. It was kind of sad, but didn’t engender a good business model for the postal service.


34 posted on 01/24/2011 9:24:06 AM PST by redangus
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To: raccoonradio

Personally, I would have no problem with them rounding the postage up to 50 cents if they would keep my small town post office open. Everything is just too far apart here, plus the crossing of zip code/county lines, for them to close. Closing just screws addresses up, doesn’t it?

I don’t care to get e-mail cards anyway.

The USPS should be privatized, but keep the small branches open for convenience.


35 posted on 01/24/2011 9:25:29 AM PST by madison10
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To: SeeSac
Most do not get checks now.

I was advised that at the first of every month, there are a HUGE amount of Dept of Treasury mail and SS mail.

My wife works for a large school system, and they still send out over 50% of the Payroll checks by USPS.

36 posted on 01/24/2011 9:44:40 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

Thanks for excerpting my post and replying to it out of context.


37 posted on 01/24/2011 9:50:43 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Libloather

“I mean, if you think about, if you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? No, they are. It's the Post Office that's always having problems." - Barack Obama

38 posted on 01/24/2011 9:52:30 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: redangus
In many cases it the only thing that allows a little town to still officially exist. ... the PO is all they had left. ... The PO is all we have that still makes us a town”.

Towns are overrated.

*grin*

I understand some people need to live in closely packed communities for many reasons (social, economic, and convenience come immediately to mind), and I have lived in major population centers, but looking back, I wonder why.

Green acres is the place for me.

Farm livin' is the life for me.

Land spreadin' out so far and wide

Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside.

39 posted on 01/24/2011 9:52:30 AM PST by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: MrPiper
(improperly excerpted by MrPiper)Most do not get checks now.

I was advised that at the first of every month, there are a HUGE amount of Dept of Treasury mail and SS mail.

83 percent of social security payments are by direct deposit.

40 posted on 01/24/2011 9:53:58 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: KeyLargo
None of the worthless employees will be fired though.

There is *one* I know of who is getting "the axe" although it's a forced retirement, and not the actual fired for cause, with prejudice, and without references she deserves. But since she is a senior manager, what else do you expect?

the infowarrior

41 posted on 01/24/2011 10:26:29 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Libloather

The USPS could operate just fine without a single post office. Close them all.


42 posted on 01/24/2011 10:35:58 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Libloather

http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/testimony/2010/pr10_pdonahoe1202.htm

“STATEMENT OF
POSTMASTER GENERAL/CEO-DESIGNATE PATRICK R. DONAHOE
BEFORE THE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON FEDERAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT,
GOVERNMENT INFORMATION, FEDERAL SERVICES,
AND INTERNATIONAL SECURITY
UNITED STATES SENATE

DEC. 2, 2010...
Let me share just a snapshot of our overall performance for FY 2010. Mail volume declined 3.5 percent. Our total net loss for the fiscal year was $8.5 billion. This loss consisted of a $500 million loss from our controllable operations, plus $5.5 billion of pre-funding for Retiree Health Benefits (RHB), plus a $2.5 billion non-cash adjustment to our workers’ compensation liabilities driven mostly by changes in interest rates. “

Losses 8B workers comp, .5B other .


43 posted on 01/24/2011 10:41:40 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: wbill; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: Mailboxes? Sure. But post offices, actually staffed and so on? I don't see it.

I am certainly not a big fan of the USPS and would wholeheartedly call for common sense reform and cost trimming, but???

Gadzooks! Tell me, who is going to put the mail into your box if there is not a staff at the post office to do so?

Surely you misspoke above? You cannot be both that stupid and a long time resident of FR. The two are incompatible.

44 posted on 01/24/2011 10:54:18 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2; Tatze; MissTed; Shyla; girlscout; The_Victor
You cannot be both that stupid and a long time resident of FR. The two are incompatible. Not true Bendy. There are plenty of examples of that on here........
45 posted on 01/24/2011 11:00:45 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: Bender2; Tatze; MissTed; Shyla; girlscout; The_Victor
You cannot be both that stupid and a long time resident of FR. The two are incompatible. Not true Bendy. There are plenty of examples of that on here........
46 posted on 01/24/2011 11:00:53 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/st_postoffice0124_20110124.html

The latest ( as of end 2010) list of closings.


47 posted on 01/24/2011 11:08:57 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Libloather

Next they need to raise the rates for all that junk mail we get each day. If the rate becomes high enough then the junk will be reduced and help control cost.

I also think they should go to three day week delivery of residential mail to unique street addresses [PO boxes wouldn’t be impacted]. MWF and TTS with Sunday off would help considate the work force, equipment and reduce cost.

JMOs.


48 posted on 01/24/2011 11:13:55 AM PST by deport
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To: Bender2

I never send any checks via mail, I use online bank bill pay, it’s quick and smooth and no .44 cent stamp or check that costs something.


49 posted on 01/24/2011 11:20:12 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Libloather; humblegunner; Eaker; Allegra; TheMom; TheOldLady; 50mm; Larry Lucido; ...
That's bad. Crum Petree is REALLY gonna be good and liquored up by the time he finishes his route now!

(Any guesses as to the movie?)

50 posted on 01/24/2011 11:26:00 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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