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Obama story about Hawaii past and lost birth certificate(KQRS Mike Evans- No Hawaiian Obama BC)
Youtube ^ | January 20, 2011 | Mike Evans

Posted on 01/24/2011 11:57:29 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

In the original story where Abercrombie came out swinging his fists at these crazy “birthers” who were dishonoring the memory of his great friend BHO Sr, Abercrombie himself claimed that he saw BHO and Ann with the baby in social settings.

Either he lied then or he’s lying about being a true believer. The stories don’t match. Just like his “reading” on tape of Obama’s letter to Kapiolani Hospital didn’t match the letter that actually showed up. And just like his statement to the newspaper saying there’s something written in the archives doesn’t match this new thing he told his friend OR what Fukino claimed.

Nothing matches. If this was an NCIS episode it would already have been solved; in real life we can’t even get a nibble by the media, much less a legal investigation by somebody with authority to get to the bottom of it.

I can’t help but wonder if Abercrombie is trying to cover his own behind about what he knew all along, realizing that if Obama is required to submit his BC and a forgery won’t work, the story will all come unspun and he will be smack-dab in the middle of a criminal investigation right before being smack-dab in the middle of a jail cell.


101 posted on 01/24/2011 4:16:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: normy

There’s a good possibility they already have. A girl born on Aug 4, 1961 and died on Aug 5, 1961 - who is in the birth and death index for 1960-64 - doesn’t have a birth record when they query her name now, according to the HDOH in a response to my request.

What will keep Obama’s handlers from being able to get away with that scenario is if at least one state passes a bill requiring not only the birth certificate but also the TRANSACTION LOG for the birth certificate - which would show when the record originated and when changes were made to it. That would give the story of what really happened with Obama’s records in Hawaii, if any exist at all.

Please, please, please - anybody reading this, please contact your state legislators and ask them to pass a bill like the one at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf We are running out of time for bills to be introduced in state legislatures.


102 posted on 01/24/2011 4:24:46 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Red Steel

They would still be guilty of violating the Federal General False Statement Act, because they knew people were calling it genuine and they failed to tell the world that it was a fake. In matters of federal jurisdiction that deception is a crime.


103 posted on 01/24/2011 4:28:54 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: wintertime

Biden’s bigger problem may be the reason that he was chosen as Obama’s VP: as chair of the Foreign Relations Committee he oversaw the State Department and knew exactly what happened to Obama’s passport file early in 2008 as discovered by an investigation.

See, all these people who knew what was going on are afraid of this, because they are all complicit.

If they were NOT threatened by Soros they may end up wishing they had been.


104 posted on 01/24/2011 4:32:40 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: jwparkerjr

No, they say they have seen his records, and that the legitimately exist. That is a FAR cry from saying they saw a long form. They have not. At best they have seen a Late Registration of a “home” birth. That would generate a COLB. OR it could be a registration of Foreign Birth, that wouls ALSO generate a COLB.

There IS no long form, thats why Barry can’t release it.


105 posted on 01/24/2011 4:46:59 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimh)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

This should be interesting...


106 posted on 01/24/2011 4:50:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: HKMk23
[obscure movie reference]

So that's where the long-form birth certificate is!


107 posted on 01/24/2011 5:54:25 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: wintertime

jamese777
Where are your worn out ( and recycled, and recycled and recycled) talking points now?


They are all over this forum in many different “Natural Borm Citizen” threads. Thanks for asking! ;-)
And don’t you worry, there will be lots more to come.


108 posted on 01/24/2011 7:21:55 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Why?


109 posted on 01/24/2011 7:23:31 PM PST by bvw
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To: vrwc1
Excuse me, but how is it that 'hearing and seeing the president' could cause a rational person to come to any kind of conclusion about the president's citizenship? Wouldn't that actually be an irrational thing to do PROFILING?????"
110 posted on 01/24/2011 8:13:44 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (We had it wrong the whole time. Khrushchev actually said, "We will Barry you!")
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To: kittymyrib

There is a fascinating undercurrent at SCOTUS right now.

About a decade ago they freely discussed Natural Born citizenship and the right to run for President in oral arguments in the Nguyen case.

Fast forward to today. The Flores-Villar case is causing the Nguyen case to be reviewed.

I don’t think it was mentioned at all. I havent read the whole transcript but I did a word search. It didn’t come up but then my browser is acting funny on searches...so I can’t be 100% positive yet.

Granted, the current case is about equal protection but still....


111 posted on 01/24/2011 8:24:28 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Springfield Reformer

I think he’s 3 and 4.


112 posted on 01/24/2011 8:25:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: reagandemocrat

0h0m0 doesn’t even deserve to be in Leavenworth. How about a gazillion dollar fine - pay back all monies from being Pres, all monies spent on his upkeep and vacations and entertainment, and all campaign monies? And then about 20 years, and then deportation to his home country, whichever it is.


113 posted on 01/24/2011 8:29:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Steely Tom
The answer's heading toward us like an out-of-control freight train.

And Obama probably thinks the light at the end of the tunnel is a giant disco ball, at a party being thrown in his honor.

114 posted on 01/24/2011 8:30:26 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: 1raider1; Red Steel

Was the radio show a court of law? And hearsay evidence sometimes is taken into consideration in court cases. And anyway he heard it directly from Abercommie! Not third party.


115 posted on 01/24/2011 8:34:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: reagandemocrat

And the nails are coming out of the boards, the boards are falling apart due to being eaten by termites, the axle is breaking, and the handle is disintegrating.


116 posted on 01/24/2011 8:37:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: woodbutcher1963

You know, that excuse is getting so tired and old that it’s obviously untrue. No one spends at least 2 million bucks on lawyers for a joke on people. He’s obviously concerned that his nationality/birth status as well as all his records remain unseen.

He’s unraveling faster than a cat playing with Grandma’s knitting bag.


117 posted on 01/24/2011 8:39:39 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I still think Obama is going to get Air Force One warmed up and make a run for it....We need an arrest warrant now...then again he won’t have SS protection if he does run..boy oh boy Obie has to make a real decision.


118 posted on 01/24/2011 8:40:40 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: bvw

Why?


Because.


119 posted on 01/24/2011 8:49:56 PM PST by jamese777
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Does it REALLY MATTER that the President of the U.S. is a natural born citizen?

OF COURSE.

Now, what will be done about this?

120 posted on 01/24/2011 9:55:06 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: Charles Martel

[obscure movie reference]

The big W in “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World”?


121 posted on 01/25/2011 12:12:39 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Charles Martel

Not obscure at all

great movie

Under the big “W” !!!


122 posted on 01/25/2011 3:12:20 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

It’s Under the big “W” !!!

So that’s where the Mombasa BC was buried ...........


123 posted on 01/25/2011 3:16:44 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jamese777

Nah.


124 posted on 01/25/2011 4:45:24 AM PST by bvw
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To: Venturer

Obama has pulled the greatest fraud in the history of the world . He should get 20 years in jail for this.”””

Nah— you missed a digit—

NObama should get 200 years in jail with absolutely no possibility or parole or of a PARDON for doing this.

Many laws & treaties will be void.


125 posted on 01/25/2011 6:31:18 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: little jeremiah

I just think they have had TWO years to create a birth certificate and a paper trail. I think they will miraculously pull out this birth certificate sometime before the next election and pull the carpet out from under the birthers. The media will then marginalize anyone that opposes the chosen one and then they will play the race card.


126 posted on 01/25/2011 6:35:21 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Springfield Reformer

Very well presented arguments Springfield Reformer.

I was actually joking about the “vast Left wing conspiracy”
AKA, Hillary Clinton calling us a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

However, where we should be concentrating our efforts is defeating Obama’s liberal policies that the MAJORITY of the country does not aggree with.

The records we should be asking for are his school/college transcripts and passport records. Those may be more damning than the BC.


127 posted on 01/25/2011 6:42:35 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Jim Noble

Were not those ‘electors’ only rubber-stamping the results of an election? An election in which ACORN handed us millions of fraudulent voters & votes?

I contend that IF NObama was NOT eligible in the first place, then his running mate—chosen ONLY by the Democrat Committee—has no special status. Biden didn’t win any ‘Vice President Primaries”. The primaries select a Presidential candidate & the ‘running mate’ is an afterthought.

I realize this could be a really sticky problem.
The succession procedure was intended for the death or disability of a President. The provisions in the Constitution to prevent a non-eligible person from holding the office were ignored by the DNC.

Now- it is a truly difficult item to untangle.


128 posted on 01/25/2011 7:01:08 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Springfield Reformer
This is one of those “gotcha” issues where one could look like a fool if he's on the wrong side of it and since only Zero knows the truth, one has to decide if he wants to play the shell game against Zero. It appears there is a new surge in this issue since the election and is possibly designed by the Left to further complicate and cloud the issue enough to get Zero through the next election cycle.
129 posted on 01/25/2011 9:08:20 AM PST by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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