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In Philadelphia abortion clinic murders, liberals blame stingy American taxpayers
The Washington Examiner ^ | January 24, 2011 | J. P. Freire

Posted on 01/24/2011 3:06:43 PM PST by Kaslin

It's amazing what cognitive dissonance can do: Liberals reacting to the news of the Philadelphia Horror with hairsplitting about what was actually so horrible about Kermit Gosnell's abortion "clinic." Some say it's horrifying that Gosnell ran such a "crappy clinic." Or that it's awful so many had to rely on it because of poor "access," referring critically to the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits taxpayer funding for abortions.

But the federal government already funnels money for that purpose. Planned Parenthood performs 62 abortions (305,310 abortions in 2008) for each adoption it facilitates, and from 2007 to 2008, $350 million in "government grants and contracts" went to its general fund. Taxpayers may not be paying for the service, but they're helping to keep the lights on, which is hardly the desert of reproductive freedom in which feminists think we live.

The "access" explanation fails to address the actual disregard for human life that transpired in the Philadelphia clinic. Gosnell knew he could operate a clinic largely at his discretion. Authorities were aware of his problematic history, but did nothing.

And yet here's a brief tour of the mealymouthed reactions, pinning it on the taxpayer, or dodging the part of the story about real human loss.

Carol King in Ms. Magazine sees visions of the pre-Roe v. Wade world:

"This is the kind of story we’d hear about in the days before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. Stories of women exploited by untrained, ill-equipped abortion providers, who may or may not have any training, let alone concern for their safety or well being; criminal enterprises setting up shop to make a quick buck off poor women; desperate women who didn’t have access to safe, legal abortions because they lived in the wrong state or county."

Vanessa Valenti from Feministing writes,  "If this doctor delivered these infants, live infants that were breathing and then killed them? Let’s make something clear: That is not abortion." That's a lot to unpack: What do you mean "deliver"? Does the fetus have to be breathing outside the womb, or capable of breathing? (A fetus can be viable in the second trimester.) It also happens to look very similar to abortion but is not the conventional means, no. So what?

William Saletan (whom Valenti calls a "dickweed") refers to the event as an "abortion scandal," while also nodding toward the fact that no, these are not "conventional abortions." On the other hand, Saletan is aware enough to say that Gosnell was known as a doctor who would perform abortions at any stage, including "killing viable babies." He calls this an atrocity, and asks whether the real offense consists in his willingness to disregard time limits, or the manner in which the procedures were done.

Anna North at Jezebel: "One thing's becoming increasingly clear — the fact that women felt they had to go to Gosnell's clinic means something is deeply wrong with abortion care in America." I'm a little struck by the term "abortion care." And what about that women felt they had to go to a clinic at all? North continues to note other things that are clear, such as "This is clearly about money..."

Though [poor women] were able to fund their abortions with help from the WMF, not all women are able to get that assistance from nonprofits, and, says Schewel, many suffer from "the unconscionable public policy that says if you are poor, pregnant and don't want to be, you are out of luck and on your own." On the solution to this, she doesn't mince words: "What will solve the problem is lifting the ban on public funding for abortion."

Outlaw abortions and only outlaws will perform them, the reasoning goes.

Amanda Marcotte at XX Factor warns against heeding the charge of using scissors to snip a spinal cord because this could be mere "anti-choice" hysteria:

Until more information is available, I would advise caution on jumping to conclusions about the charges of murder on the seven babies.  The accusation that the babies were delivered and then killed with scissors resemble a fairly routine accusation leveled by anti-choicers at doctors who perform late term abortions.  The anti-abortion, anti-contraception activist Jill Stanek rose to prominence accusing a hospital in Chicago of doing this; they were cleared of the charges.  She has since accused many people, including Barack Obama, of supporting infanticide as a form of birth control.  In other words, it's possible that Gosnell is guilty of the charges, but one should take the history of this particular claim into account before jumping to conclusions.

Marcotte doesn't mention why this description comes up so frequently, and that's because it's a rendition of what actually happens in partial-birth abortions, which have a description more awful than the mere "snip" language. Whatever the case, Marcotte too walks down the neat path of arguing that it was taxpayers and their confounded refusal to spare a few bucks for abortion.

What many of these accounts focus on is the economic desperation of the clientele. None of this would have happened, the argument goes, had there been providers better suited and more affordable. In order to stop future Gosnells we must  do two things:

(1.) all abortions at any stage should be legal;

(2.) they should be funded by taxpayers.

But that's just it. This wouldn't have stopped Gosnell because it did not stop him. Evidence for the charges against him weren't discovered by a routine inspection but by a raid. This happened in a world where we have been making abortion safe and legal for years.

I can understand why pro-choice activists are so insistent that this is how things would look if we banned abortion outright: They've been saying all along, for years, that this is what it looked like. It's reminiscent, it feels right. And it turns out they had it precisely backward all along. We only found out about this clinic because someone snitched. How many others are there?

Are those who favor legal, safe abortions willing to step out on a limb to say that among Gosnell's victims were also babies in the womb? Or are we going to simply lament the loss of potential human life? And is this really the legacy of a woman's "right to privacy"?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; gosnell; philadelphia

1 posted on 01/24/2011 3:06:45 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
[Jill Stanek] has since accused many people, including Barack Obama, of supporting infanticide as a form of birth control.

Gee, I wonder where Ms. Stanek ever got THAT idea from.

2 posted on 01/24/2011 3:14:54 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Obama joined the Tea Party. His favorite brand: Constant Commie.)
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To: Kaslin

This whole episode is a huge black eye for the Pro-Death people. It puts all the arguments the Lifers have made about the truth to these types of doctors in one clear concise example. The left will not be able to spin this so called Doctor into anything more than what he is. A ghoulish killer.


3 posted on 01/24/2011 3:16:55 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Kaslin

Taxpayers ARE paying for the abortions. jeesh. Planned Parenthood would be doing a lot fewer of them without government funding, period.


4 posted on 01/24/2011 3:23:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: Kaslin

States have attempted to hold abortuaries to the same sanitary standards as veterinarians or outpatient surgical centers, but the Federal courts have ruled against them.


5 posted on 01/24/2011 3:25:13 PM PST by Tax-chick (An attack on Sarah Palin is an attack on me.)
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To: Kaslin

The left has no shame or fear of God. Those were viable babies that were butchered. Who cries for the babies on the left?


6 posted on 01/24/2011 3:25:16 PM PST by rbosque (12 year Freeper!!! Combat Economist.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
The women who went to him cannot feel violated. They went for an abortion and knew how far along their pregnancy. Why are they sobbing now?
7 posted on 01/24/2011 3:27:52 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bronzy

That’s why this tragedy can be used to educate others who don’t really think about the lifetime of regret and pain they will have from making this short term selfish decision. I always argue that tangible events are what moves the debate on issues. This is one of them.


8 posted on 01/24/2011 4:01:55 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Uh, Gosnell is a millionaire, made so by the murder of untold thousands of mostly black and hispanic babies. Imagine if Gosnell was a white man? He’d be called Hitler.


9 posted on 01/24/2011 4:06:12 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Kaslin
the fact that women felt they had to go to Gosnell's clinic means something is deeply wrong with abortion care in America."

The problem isn't access to abortion clinics and funding of abortions. The problem is a problem of the heart and soul. Where one human being makes themselves more important then another and for convenience destroys the life of another.

There is no such thing as an unwanted baby, just unwilling selfish parents.

10 posted on 01/24/2011 4:24:18 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Kaslin

Just like the government school collectives, just like all the other government entitlement programs, no matter how much money you give them, it will never ... ever ... never be enough.

A nation that allows people to contract ghouls to murder their own young will not go unpunished by the One who avenges innocent blood.

Meanwhile the morons who submit themselves to this bloodbath are murdering their own progeny in unspeakably cruel ways: burning them alive in saline solutions, dismebering them alive, decerebrating them, snipping their spinal cords, who know what other tortures.


11 posted on 01/24/2011 6:17:49 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Kaslin

Old News heard this On MSNBC,CNN,JoY Behar,Good Morning America,Today Show,CBS news,SATIRE HaHA HA


12 posted on 01/25/2011 3:42:06 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Kaslin

Old News heard this On MSNBC,CNN,JoY Behar,Good Morning America,Today Show,CBS news,SATIRE HaHA HA


13 posted on 01/25/2011 3:42:10 AM PST by ballplayer
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" Gosnell regularly and illegally delivered live, viable babies in the third trimester of pregnancy and then murdered these newborns by severing their spinal cords with scissors," said a report of the grand jury that investigated Gosnell and his clinic for a year.

Aided and abetted by Obama-----the most radically pro-abortion President in US history. Despite his flowery words, all of his actions serve to radically increase abortions in America......and around the world.

Once in office the Obama bloodbath commenced:

<><> He has officially approved the first instance of taxpayer funded abortions under O'Care---his enforced government-run health care program. This is the kind of abortion funding the pro-life movement warned about when Congress considered the bill.

<><> The Obama Administration will give Pennsylvania $160 million to set up a new “high-risk” insurance program under a provision of the federal health care legislation enacted in March. It has quietly approved a plan submitted by an appointee of pro-abortion Governor Edward Rendell under which the new program will cover any abortion that is legal in Pennsylvania.

<><> The high-risk pool program is one of the new programs created by the sweeping health care legislation, Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, President Obama signed into law on March 23. The law authorizes $5 billion in federal funds for the program, which will cover as many as 400,000 people when it is implemented nationwide.

<><> “Obama's $160 million in federal funds to PA, will pay for insurance plans that cover any legal abortion,” said Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National RtL Committee. “This is just the first proof of the phoniness of President Obama’s assurances that federal funds would not subsidize abortion — but it will not be the last.”

<><> One of Obama’s first legislative achievements was to include a provision, within the 2009-2010 military budget, prosecuting "pastors who preach hatred." CASE IN POINT Let’s say your pastor preaches on Romans 1st chapter which denounces homosexuality. Someone happens to walk in during the sermon. Then he/she commits a crime against someone who happens to be a homosexual. Not only is the bad guy prosecuted, but the preacher can be prosecuted as well.

<><> Obama got help from Pelosi and Reid for this verbiage.....the first time any president signed such a provision. ACTION PROJECT Ask your pastor if he is aware of this provision, and if, in fact, he would vote for someone willing to send him to jail.

<><> Empowered by Obama, the ACLU Demands NY Investigate Catholic Hospitals Refusing “Life-saving” Abortions........

<><> Obama DOJ nominee Dawn Johnsen saw a great danger to liberty in laws enacted to protect babies in the womb...... it was OK to make such laws to protect the interests of the woman carrying unborn child -- or to protect whatever interest the baby may have retroactively in its fetal existence if it is ever born alive -- but it was not OK to make such laws in the interest of the unborn child itself.

<> Obama characterizes late-term abortionist Dr. Tiller (who was murdered) as a hero and martyr. Dr. Tiller is a bloody, gruesome killer of fully-formed babies (60,000 abortions by his own admission).......who were alive when aborted, who could FEEL THE PAIN of being literally ripped from their mothers' wombs.

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UPDATES

<><> A federal probe was requested by three high ranking lawmakers with congressional oversight responsibilities into whether the Obama Administration broke federal laws by promoting a proposed constitution that radically changes abortion policy in Kenya.

<> Dec 23, 2010---- Louisville, KY --- The Obama administration filed a lawsuit against a pro-life protester b/c he was given community service for a minor charge associated with efforts to help women find abortion alternatives. In Jan, David Hamilton was counseling women going into the EMW Women’s Surgical Center, the only abortion business in Louisville, Kentucky. Hamitlon was arrested for moving the arm of a clinic escort out of his way as he attempted to present alternatives information to one woman going to the entrance.” More at LifeNews.com

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What Obama and Michelle Believe re: Aborted Babies Born Alive
FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2253212/posts?page=6

In February 2004, US Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law (prohibiting doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls).

Michelle Obama called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure. " She urged supporters to pay $150 to attend a fund-raising luncheon for her husband, who she promised would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it.

BACKGROUND Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted. BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery. The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.

But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. Obama worried aloud that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.

BAIPA passed in 2005.........after Obama left the Illinois Senate.

14 posted on 01/25/2011 4:54:02 AM PST by Liz (There's a new definition of bipartisanship in Washington -- it's called "former member.")
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The radical pro-abort Obama Administration will give Pennsylvania $160 million tax dollars to set up a new “high-risk” insurance program under a provision of O'Care---his federal health care legislation enacted in March. It has quietly approved a plan submitted by an appointee of pro-abortion Pennsylvania Governor Edward Rendell under which the new program will cover any abortion that is legal in Pennsylvania.

REFERENCE---HERE'S WHAT TAX DOLLARS PAY FOR

Horror stories about Dr. Kermit Gosnell's Philadelphia abortion clinic are beginning to come to light after he was charged with eight counts of murder. In Philadelphia, Gosnell is accused of killing seven newborn babies with scissors and killing a 41-year-old refugee after a botched abortion in connection with his Philadelphia clinic.

One former patient of Gosnell's Phildelphia clinic claims that in 2001, she went to procure an abortion to find dazed women sitting on blood-stained recliners in the waiting room. She changed her mind, only to have the Philadelphia doctor forcibly hold her down by tying her hands and given medication against her will.

Prosecutors believe Gosnell's Philadelphia abortion clinic frequently delivered late-term babies alive. The Philadelphia abortionist then severed their spines with scissors. The fetal bodies, along with staff lunches were stored in refrigerators at the filthy Philadelphia facility. Tiny baby feet, prosecutors said, were discovered in specimen jars, lined up in a macabre collection. (Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...

15 posted on 01/25/2011 5:02:38 AM PST by Liz (There's a new definition of bipartisanship in Washington -- it's called "former member.")
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In the gruesome Philadelphia abortion clinic murders, liberals blame stingy American taxpayers. Planned Parenthood's $350 million in "government grants and contracts" supposedly went into its general fund......but the facts show PP's rampant govt fraud.

PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S LATEST RAP SHEET:

<><><>The US Inspector General found that NJ Planned Parenthood falsified Medicaid claims to get their hands on $2.9 million they were not entitled to.

<><><> Planned Parenthood of the Inland Northwest will pay the state $345,000 after settling a 2009 audit that uncovered the clinic used incorrect codes and provided insufficient documentation for some claims billed to Medicaid.

<><><>An audit found the Spokane family-planning organization improperly billed Medicaid more than $629,000 for 333 patient procedures from March 2004 through February 2007. During that time, the clinic collected about $7.6 million from Medicaid.

<><><> Planned Parenthood California is under criminal investigation for billing taxpayers high prices for birth control equipment that they obtained on the cheap.

16 posted on 01/25/2011 5:07:55 AM PST by Liz (There's a new definition of bipartisanship in Washington -- it's called "former member.")
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