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DeWine's assistance not enough for bicyclist who collided with car (No Good Deed Goes Unpunished)
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | January 24, 2011 | Alan Johnson

Posted on 01/25/2011 1:12:12 AM PST by buccaneer81

DeWine's assistance not enough for bicyclist who collided with car Monday, January 24, 2011 11:29 PM By Alan Johnson The Columbus Dispatch

In Mike DeWine's first week as Ohio attorney general, his car collided with a bicyclist Downtown - and he ended up having the man taken on a 100-mile round trip to be treated by the officeholder's personal physician.

Jonathan Kirk, 28, a dishwasher at Tip Top Kitchen & Cocktails, wasn't seriously injured, but he was shaken up in the Jan. 13 morning accident.

According to a Columbus police report, confirmed by accounts from DeWine and Kirk, Kirk rode his bicycle against a red light at Front and Main streets. He was knocked to the pavement by a 2008 Chrysler 300 in which DeWine was a passenger. A DeWine staff member, Robert Lagergren, was driving DeWine's personal car.

Kirk, who said he has no insurance because he can't afford it, didn't want to go to a hospital emergency room and left the scene to make a scheduled appointment with his parole officer. Story continues below Advertisement

However, DeWine tracked him down and insisted that he see a doctor.

The attorney general had a staff member, Ann O'Donnell, drive Kirk to Jamestown, Ohio, about 30 miles southeast of Dayton, to see DeWine's physician, Dr. Kevin Sherrett, who is also the Greene County coroner.

"He's my personal doctor, and he's extremely thorough," DeWine said. "I thought it would be the fastest way. I called him up, told his office it was an emergency, and he said to bring him over, he would fit him in."

The doctor did not charge for the visit, but DeWine said he asked to be billed for the cost of X-rays.

Kirk told The Dispatch that he doesn't know the results of an X-ray taken at Sherrett's office because he doesn't have a home phone and his cell phone was crushed in the accident.

"When I got up (the day after the accident), I wasn't able to make it to work. I was so sore," Kirk said. He said his right ankle and foot were injured.

O'Donnell said she gave Kirk $70 in cash to make up for missing a day's work and bought him lunch.

The next day, Kirk called the attorney general's office seeking payment for missing a second day's work and reimbursement for his cell phone. He suggested he might go to the news media with his story, she said.

At that point, DeWine conferred with attorneys in his office and decided to provide no more help to Kirk.

"They did do a good thing," Kirk said of DeWine's help. "But it's not like I'm asking for a whole lot. I'm just asking for $80 and a new phone."

ajohnson@dispatch.com


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KEYWORDS: bicyclist; dewine; goodsamaritan; mikedewine; scam
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I commend DeWine for trying, even though it was the idiot bicyclist's fault. And the cyclist should be brought up on extortion charges.
1 posted on 01/25/2011 1:12:17 AM PST by buccaneer81
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To: buccaneer81
even though it was the idiot bicyclist's fault

Was there a court case that assigned fault? If not, how do you know what happened?

2 posted on 01/25/2011 1:28:20 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
According to a Columbus police report, confirmed by accounts from DeWine and Kirk, Kirk rode his bicycle against a red light at Front and Main streets.

Police report states that the cyclist admitted to running a red light.

3 posted on 01/25/2011 1:33:47 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

DeWine should have forked over the $80 plus pay for the new cell phone. He was already committed by then.

I find it amusing that DeWine was in control and thrust the medical exam and some money onto the cyclist. But once the cyclist veered from that script he got slapped down


4 posted on 01/25/2011 1:35:33 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
DeWine should have forked over the $80 plus pay for the new cell phone.

Why? He already had given the punk $70 and free medical care. Demanding another $80 and a new phone or else going to the media is extortion, pure and simple.

5 posted on 01/25/2011 1:43:28 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

The kid requested it. How do you know it was a demand?
Anyways for you-—>>
Dewine taking the initiative = good
Kid taking the initiative = bad

The cyclists request was very modest


6 posted on 01/25/2011 1:52:18 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: buccaneer81

Why the very rudeness and impertinence of a peasant asking for a bit more from his lord! Off with his head!

Only speak when spoken too !!!! When in your Lord’s presence


7 posted on 01/25/2011 1:54:24 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
Kirk called the attorney general's office seeking payment for missing a second day's work and reimbursement for his cell phone. He suggested he might go to the news media with his story,

Do you usually back up a "request" with a threat to go to the media?

For crying out loud, the punk was at fault, and he admitted it!

What he deserves is the prosecutor's office charging him with extortion

8 posted on 01/25/2011 1:58:09 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dennisw

So, what is your story? You either hate DeWine or you’re one of those spandex-wearing scofflaws on two wheels. Which is it?
This story has obviously struck a nerve with you.


9 posted on 01/25/2011 2:00:28 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
Smart and prudent of DeWine.
10 posted on 01/25/2011 2:02:24 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: buccaneer81

I don’t have a bicycle and all I know about DeWine is he is an ex-Congress critter. DeWine should have paid up and be done with it

Now it is in the news media
In a way that the devious DeWine figures he can shape rather than letting the cyclist talk to the media first. DeWine-—just another conniving hack and likely Obama voter


11 posted on 01/25/2011 2:05:34 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
You have an odd sense of right and wrong. The cyclist admits fault, DeWine tries to be a nice guy, but the shakedown artist wants more.

BTW, DeWine, an Obama voter? He's a Republican who, as attorney general, is suing Obama to stop Obamacare.

You are an idiot.

12 posted on 01/25/2011 2:09:30 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81


(No Good Deed Goes Unpunished)

Thanks to “personal injury” lawyers and the politically-correct crowd...
NO truer words were ever uttered in the English language.

It’s BEYOND SAD that some reasonably decline to do acts of kindness
because we don’t know if we’ll be sued into poverty (or jail) for
acting on fundamentally decent human impulses.


13 posted on 01/25/2011 2:10:35 AM PST by VOA
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To: buccaneer81

DeWine is obviously a cheap bas***d and never should have gotten involved in the first place. He barged into this guys life who had asked for nothing after the accident.


14 posted on 01/25/2011 2:13:08 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
Trying to be a nice guy is "barging into someone's life?"

A "cheap bastard?"

You have a frigging screw loose. You praise the wrongdoer and damn the innocent party who went out of his way to help.

Please, don't raise children with your sense of "justice."

15 posted on 01/25/2011 2:17:29 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

but the shakedown artist wants more. >>>>>>

For a guy like DeWine there is no difference between forking out $200 or $400. He should have forked out the higher amount and been over done with it. But no, he could not let go.... As the superior in this fleeting relationship he chose to express his indignation at such bush league extortion by one of the peasants

Now to the cyclist receiving that $400 there is a huge difference, plus he can now replace the broken cell phone. He is probably so poor he has no landline


16 posted on 01/25/2011 2:20:02 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: buccaneer81

Yeah your DeWine is a nice guy up to a point...... But when the loser cyclist/dishwasher asks for $80 and a new cell phone. Then smack him down and you agree with that

DeWine has a rotten entitled attitude and should have left well enough alone right from the beginning and not dealt at all w the cyclist


17 posted on 01/25/2011 2:23:51 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

You sound like a DUmmie.


18 posted on 01/25/2011 2:27:23 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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19 posted on 01/25/2011 2:28:04 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." Ronald Reagan)
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To: buccaneer81

Cyclist-dishwasher versus Mike Dewine is not a fair match-up. DeWine was liking being the benevolent padrone. But only up to a point. He was so mightily offended when $80 and a lousy cell phone was requested. What impertinence!!!!

What laughable slapstick. You are oblivious to the drama


20 posted on 01/25/2011 2:32:49 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
You're oblivious to right and wrong. You must support entitlements, because according to you, it's just terrible that a "cheap, rich" guy refuses to be shaken down (after providing help) by a common lowlife who expects others to pay for his mistakes.

Not a very conservative outlook on life.

21 posted on 01/25/2011 2:36:40 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
You're oblivious to right and wrong. You must support entitlements....

Mike DeWine must support entitlements because he dragged this guy to see an MD and laid 80$ on him even though (so he claims) the cyclist ran the red light and caused the dust up

Mike DeWine liked playing Mr Nice Guy but only under his own rules. DeWine is now a laughing stock...this will come back to plague him. His cheapness.

22 posted on 01/25/2011 2:45:32 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw
"So he claims?"

The police report states that Kirk ADMITTED to being in the wrong.

Are you that dense or that blinded by your hatred?

23 posted on 01/25/2011 2:48:54 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dennisw

The fact the cyclist said he`d go to the media if he didn`t get what he wanted should clue us all in it was a demand. The cyclist was at fault. DeWine had already gone above and beyond. Were it me, I`d have offered to take him to the nearest ER and been done with it, assuming his bike didn`t damage my vehicle. These punkass kids... no matter what you do for them, it`s never enough.


24 posted on 01/25/2011 2:53:26 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: dennisw

DeWine is NOT an obama supporter for pete’s sake. Some of you on here are truly ignorant. DeWine is a Republican.

The bicyclist was at fault, and DeWine went above and beyond the call of duty. I think if this has continued, he would’ve been trying to shake him down for a very long time - even though DeWine wasn’t at fault. I suspect the bicyclist was an obama supporter - shake downs are part of their MO.


25 posted on 01/25/2011 2:59:08 AM PST by Catsrus (Have)
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To: Catsrus; ScottinVA

If Dewine wants to play benevolent dictator then he should not have gotten involved. Lets get real. Another $80 and new cell phone is pocket change for DeWine


26 posted on 01/25/2011 3:05:16 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

You actually sound jealous of DeWine.


27 posted on 01/25/2011 3:08:09 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dennisw

If I’d tried to help a cyclist who had collided with my car through no fault of mine and that cyclist called up the next day demanding money or he’d go to the news media, I’d have cut him off, too.

So would any sane individual. You’re hearing about this because the cyclist did go to the media, you realize this, don’t you?

It was attempted extortion.


28 posted on 01/25/2011 3:12:56 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You have to be in control just like DeWine....think about it. I’m sure Dewine was delighted when the poor idiot cyclist asked for more. Giving DeWine a chance to get all puffed up and indignant at such outrageous ($80+cell phone) extortion

“The very thought of it! I, Mike DeWine refuse to succumb to such blackmail!!!” “Officers, arrest this man and see he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!” “Our children must be taught this is wrong”


29 posted on 01/25/2011 3:19:43 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: RegulatorCountry

You’re hearing about this because the cyclist did go to the media, you realize this, don’t you?>>>>>>

They both went to the media. Mike DeWine’s side is in this article too. DeWine is trying to get out in front of this mess that he could have avoided if he wasn’t so cheap


30 posted on 01/25/2011 3:23:32 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

Well, you just go right on your merry way and pay people who demand money of you for any old reason, then. You’re really coming off badly here, dennisw. You’ve been around FR a long time, at least your screen name has. I don’t recall your sounding like such a complete idiot before.

Are you OK? Maybe you should see a doctor. Not that I’m admitting any fault if you’ve busted a vein and are stroking out because of this. Don’t come asking me for money.


31 posted on 01/25/2011 3:23:50 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: dennisw

If I was at fault in an accident, it wouldn’t have occurred to me to ask for anything from the other person involved.

Well, except that they please accept my apologies for probably scaring the hell out of them.

.....must be something wrong with my thinking.


32 posted on 01/25/2011 3:24:16 AM PST by Nickname
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You actually sound jealous of DeWine.>>>>>

Can’t be jealous of someone I hardly know of. Maybe you live in DeWine land


33 posted on 01/25/2011 3:25:42 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

They guy ran a red light, dennisw. I don’t give a rats butt about DeWine, who he is, or whatever.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Dumbass on a bike runs a red light and has collision with car coming through the intersection; person in car helps with personal doctor and bills for evaluation; cyclist figures out who the guy is and asks for more money, threatening to go to the media if he doesn’t comply.

I am having a hard time understanding your point of view here. On the surface, it doesn’t seem to fit with your posting history from what I have seen in the past on FR, but that is just my opinion. It is puzzling to me.


34 posted on 01/25/2011 3:26:08 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: buccaneer81

Kirk should be thankful he didn’t get a ticket.
My problem with DeWine is that he sent a female staffer to deal with a 28 year old male parolee.


35 posted on 01/25/2011 3:27:09 AM PST by Just A Reader
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To: dennisw
It's obvious he gave it some thought:

At that point, DeWine conferred with attorneys in his office and decided to provide no more help to Kirk.

It's also obvious that you never read the story and that you have a total disregard for the facts.

36 posted on 01/25/2011 3:27:29 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Just A Reader
My problem with DeWine is that he sent a female staffer to deal with a 28 year old male parolee.

That is a good point.

37 posted on 01/25/2011 3:30:00 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: RegulatorCountry

DeWine playing the outraged padron role...This fails to impress me. Politicians extort and blackmail each other every day of the week, even Sunday when they go to church. I’m surprised you can’t see through his “outraged” shtick with the cyclist.

DeWine is just plain cheap. In the course of his life he has extorted and been extorted many times. Not for money but just doing political deals. It’s called wheeling and dealing


38 posted on 01/25/2011 3:33:31 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: buccaneer81; dennisw

“...for a guy like DeWine there is no difference between $80 and $400...”

Hey Dennie, you busy tonight? There may still be time to get you to Washington to claim the extra seat next to the First Lady (well, the extra half-seat...she takes a little extra)!

You would be perfect, a natural: Like you Obama is a guy who can’t stand other peoples’ financial success, and he doesn’t know the difference between a balanced budget and $13 trillion!

In other words a loser, just like you!


39 posted on 01/25/2011 3:35:49 AM PST by dblup
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To: dennisw

Just curious, dennisw, how do you know DeWine “went” to the media?

I doesn’t say anywhere that he did, and I highly doubt that he did. The most LIKELY scenario is that the extortionist did go to the newspaper, who then got copies of the police report and called DeWine who gave them his account.

I can’t believe you are saying he should “just pay” because he is a “rich bastard” and “has the money”.

That is pretty much what we hear on the national and international level from our socialist administration and other countries around the world regarding what we should do with our wealth.


40 posted on 01/25/2011 3:36:09 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: buccaneer81

Mike DeWine is a freakin’ attorney and knew what he was getting into. He needs legal advice from no one. It’s just hilarious seeing politicians being outraged at $80 worth of extortion


41 posted on 01/25/2011 3:36:12 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: rlmorel

Just curious, dennisw, how do you know DeWine “went” to the media?>>>>

His side is certainly represented in the article. Maybe the media went to him. Either way he got in his licks


42 posted on 01/25/2011 3:37:59 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

Get some help, Dennis. Or go over to DU.


43 posted on 01/25/2011 3:38:33 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dennisw

I do not understand your point of view at all, dennisw. This is a prime example of no good deed going unpunished. And all you can do is rail against the person who attempted to do the decent thing despite not being at fault.

I’m done discussing the matter.


44 posted on 01/25/2011 3:40:10 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: buccaneer81; dennisw
The next day, Kirk called the attorney general's office seeking payment for missing a second day's work and reimbursement for his cell phone. He suggested he might go to the news media with his story, she said.

Kirk suggested blackmail.

45 posted on 01/25/2011 3:40:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: buccaneer81

“....spandex-wearing scofflaws on two wheels.”

I’m LOL because I have no love of bicyclists where I live. It’s a beautiful, rural area with narrow, hilly and twisty roads but bike clubs from nearby cities frequently come out to ride them.

They are not scofflaws but I cringe when I know they’re out. It’s dangerous and I’ve seen people do extremely stupid things trying to get around them when they’re riding 2-3 abreast as they approach bends in the road.


46 posted on 01/25/2011 3:41:03 AM PST by Nickname
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To: dennisw

Are you trolling?


47 posted on 01/25/2011 3:42:36 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Lazamataz
Kirk suggested blackmail.

Precisely. Dennis thinks DeWine should sign his house over to Kirk. After all, Dennis says DeWine is "rich" and would never miss the money,

48 posted on 01/25/2011 3:42:47 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Lazamataz

Kirk suggested blackmail. >>>>>>>

Are you sure a poor schmuck dishwasher requesting $80 and a new cellphone meets the legal minimum for blackmail? This is ridiculous

I like how everyone here is feigning outrage at such a pathetic level of extortion


49 posted on 01/25/2011 3:45:04 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: Nickname

Here in my suburb they run red lights and stop signs.


50 posted on 01/25/2011 3:45:48 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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