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DeWine's assistance not enough for bicyclist who collided with car (No Good Deed Goes Unpunished)
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | January 24, 2011 | Alan Johnson

Posted on 01/25/2011 1:12:12 AM PST by buccaneer81

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To: dennisw

If you’re so worried about this punk, why don’t you cough up the $80 and the new phone. You’re about as responsible for his problems as DeWine is.


61 posted on 01/25/2011 4:42:39 AM PST by beandog
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To: dennisw; buccaneer81
Are you sure a poor schmuck dishwasher requesting $80 and a new cellphone meets the legal minimum for blackmail?

If I am not mistaken, neither occupation of the perpetrator, nor dollar amount demanded, is specified in the statute that defines blackmail. Perhaps I am blind, though, so would you point them out for me?

State laws vary, but the following is an example of a state blackmail statute:

"21-3428. Blackmail.

Blackmail is gaining or attempting to gain anything of value or compelling another to act against such person's
 will, by threatening to communicate accusations or statements about any person that would subject such person 
or any other person to public ridicule, contempt or degradation.

Blackmail is a severity level 7, nonperson felony."

62 posted on 01/25/2011 4:47:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Graybeard58
When the parolee wanted more money or he’d go to the press, he stepped over a line called extortion.

Incorrect. Extortion is threatening bodily harm; blackmail is threatening to reveal embarrassing information.

63 posted on 01/25/2011 4:48:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: dennisw
I find it amusing that DeWine was in control and thrust the medical exam and some money onto the cyclist. But once the cyclist veered from that script he got slapped down

The article said that DeWine stopped after advice from his attorneys. In today's culture, juries wouldn't care about the facts of the collision, they would presume that DeWine must have been guilty of ordering the driver to chase the bicyclist and run him down. The guilt is "proven" by DeWine "not wanting to see it in the press" (must be something to hide) and because DeWine went out of the way to help the cyclist (trying to rip the cyclist off by hoping that seeing his personal Phys he could fix the result and make it look like the cyclist wasn't injured when the cyclists's lawyers doctors say he was massively injured with lifelong disabilities.)

You have people with money, and you have people who are trying to get that money via the mechanism of our court-based lottery

64 posted on 01/25/2011 4:49:24 AM PST by The Theophilus
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To: dennisw
didn't want to go to a hospital emergency room and left the scene to make a scheduled appointment with his parole officer.
65 posted on 01/25/2011 4:57:33 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only thing Super Glue is good for is gluing your fingers together.....)
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To: Lazamataz
Interesting. I always thought they were one and the same, with "blackmail" being a colloquial or slang term.

Thanks, Laz.

66 posted on 01/25/2011 4:58:42 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dennisw; Jim Robinson
DeWine is just plain cheap

I don't see what the problem is. He already gave the guy much much more than he needed to. How is that cheap?

And if he is cheap why would that be a problem? We need lots more cheap men in Washington. Maybe that way they'd stop spending our money like drunken sailors

I'm cheap and proud of it! (And, like DeWine, I give more to charity than almost anyone I know personally)

Then you get upset because DeWine won't let himself be blackmailed?

(Jim, Can someone check to see if dennisw's account has been hacked? This just doesn't seem like him at all)

67 posted on 01/25/2011 5:01:07 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Lazamataz
Extortion is threatening bodily harm; blackmail is threatening to reveal embarrassing information.

I'm not a lawyer and am not that familar with the terminology but my point was and is that he was getting into criminal territory and I'm pretty sure DeWine's lawyer told him not to pay anymore.

It would not have stopped at $80 and a cell phone. Add to that the fact that Dewine wasn't even the driver and I'm sure he had insurance on that vehicle that would help protect him from the con man.

Like I said, I'm not a lawyer and the bicyclist may not have committed a crime but you can rest assured there will be litigation, DeWine is a target.... If I'm allowed to say that.

68 posted on 01/25/2011 5:14:10 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: dennisw; rlmorel; buccaneer81

Your insistance that someone pay more then they are willing in an act of charity, points out your own poor values. If you thingthat it is so importatnt that the convict cyclist be paid more fork over your own money or shut up.


69 posted on 01/25/2011 5:43:28 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: Lazamataz

Meanwhile back in the real world no DA will prosecute a request for $80+ a new cell phone as blackmail. They are too busy


70 posted on 01/25/2011 5:54:12 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw; buccaneer81
Meanwhile back in the real world no DA will prosecute a request for $80+ a new cell phone as blackmail. They are too busy

I take it, from your answer, you were unable to identify an occupation, or a dollar amount, that is specified in the legal definition of blackmail.

So you must be in agreement, then, that DeWine was blackmailed.

71 posted on 01/25/2011 6:08:21 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: dennisw

Somehow I think the fact that DeWine is the sitting Attorney General might influence the decision of whether or not to prosecute.
Threaten Joe Blow, you might get a warning from your local police. Threaten a politician, and you will probably be on close speaking terms with a defense attorney.


72 posted on 01/25/2011 6:09:25 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Graybeard58
I'm not a lawyer and am not that familar with the terminology but my point was and is that he was getting into criminal territory and I'm pretty sure DeWine's lawyer told him not to pay anymore.

I agree with your point. I only wanted you to use the right terms. I'm not a lawyer either but law is a hobby of mine.

(Amusing aside: I actually wrote my first Performance Contract recently, got everyone to sign on, then started to want to back out. I got a contract-specialist attorney to review it, and he told me, 'Good news: You coulda practiced contract law. Bad news: You are screwed, this thing is airtight.' LOL)

73 posted on 01/25/2011 6:12:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: buccaneer81
Thanks, Laz.

YW

74 posted on 01/25/2011 6:14:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: dennisw
“DeWine has a rotten entitled attitude and should have left well enough alone right from the beginning and not dealt at all w the cyclist”

You have evidently not given this much thought have you??
Say the AG had listened to the bike guy and left the scene. Then later, what happens when bike guy or a passerby charges the AG with a hit and run?
You hadn't thought things through that far had you?

75 posted on 01/25/2011 6:18:55 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: buccaneer81
Somehow I think the fact that DeWine is the sitting Attorney General might influence the decision of whether or not to prosecute.
Threaten Joe Blow, you might get a warning from your local police. Threaten a politician, and you will probably be on close speaking terms with a defense attorney.

DeWine will make sure this fool is not prosecuted...... He knows he will only end up with egg on his face

76 posted on 01/25/2011 6:23:40 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: buccaneer81
I think Dennis is putting everyone on in a massive satire.

He doth protest too much....and in too much detail.

I think he's having fun pulling everyone's chain.

Leni

77 posted on 01/25/2011 6:26:15 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

Could be. But I’ve seen him doing similar things more andf more, lately. Either he’s changing, or he’s spoofing. I suspect the former.


78 posted on 01/25/2011 6:29:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: MinuteGal

I’m probably wrong. He’s probably spoofing.


79 posted on 01/25/2011 6:31:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: MinuteGal

I made my argument that DeWine wanted to CYA so he thrust himself upon this guy who wanted to be left alone. So he does a bit for the dishwasher/ex-con just in case, just to cover his bases even though dishwasher is at fault. He sends a female flunky (paid by your tax dollars) to the dishwasher to take him to his personal physician just so DeWine will be the first to know if the dishwasher/ex-con has a head injury or something else serious

Then DeWine gets to act all offended when the lowly dishwasher asks for $80 plus a new cell phone. You have been sucked in by a politicians kabuki dance. I mean every word here....not putting anyone on

If DeWine was Chuckey Schummer you would see 30 posts agreeing with me. Some calling Schumer a cheap bastard etc


80 posted on 01/25/2011 6:56:58 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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