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BREAKING NEWS: Obama to call for 5-year freeze on non-security spending, White House says
MSNBC ^ | January 25, 2011 | MSNBC

Posted on 01/25/2011 9:40:57 AM PST by Hawk720

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; bhosotu; federalspending
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1 posted on 01/25/2011 9:41:00 AM PST by Hawk720
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To: Hawk720

With all sorts of stuff redefined as “security”...


2 posted on 01/25/2011 9:42:33 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Hawk720
No COLA for social security for 5 additional years?
No bailouts of any kind?
No investment in green technology?
No additional funds for education?

As if.

3 posted on 01/25/2011 9:43:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hawk720

Big Fat Hairy Deal, after the massive run-up in spending over the last few years. We need to CUT spending, not just freeze it at the current insane levels.


4 posted on 01/25/2011 9:44:58 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Hawk720

A freeze does nothing except leaves the deficits at above $1 trillion yearly but actual cuts decrease the trillion dollar deficits.


5 posted on 01/25/2011 9:45:43 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Hawk720
So...let me get this straight: BHO and a democratic Congress spend us into eternal debt...put in place programs that will keep us in eternal debt...then loose an election...THEN he makes it his policy to spend no more money?

...AND the sheeple will cheer this great apron string tightener...forgetting that he is the one who put us in the situation in the first place. He's pulling a Bill Clinton and he will get away with it.

6 posted on 01/25/2011 9:45:46 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: ltc8k6

Yep! Security is going to become the next bastardized political watchword!


7 posted on 01/25/2011 9:46:04 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Hawk720

“Freeze” - that would mean no increases, but then, it also means no REDUCTIONS....

If revenues continue, for a variety of reasons, falling, and outlays remain ‘frozen’, that works out to an ever-increasing deficit...

Thanks for nothin’......


8 posted on 01/25/2011 9:46:17 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Hawk720

Freezing spending at too-high levels fixes nothing. In fact, it makes things worse.


9 posted on 01/25/2011 9:46:26 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Hawk720

So he wants to lock-in the drunken sailor spending for 5 more years with no roll-back?


10 posted on 01/25/2011 9:46:33 AM PST by AU72
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To: Hawk720

Freez at 2008 levels ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 01/25/2011 9:46:54 AM PST by Mr. K (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: dirtboy

Exactly. Freezing it at his spendthrift level accomplishes nothing. (And if you believe he’d even stick to that after re-election, he’s got a high-speed rail project to sell you too!)


12 posted on 01/25/2011 9:47:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Hawk720

Freeze at 2008 levels ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! (or earlier)

He just wants to LOCK IN the $1.4 trillion deficit


13 posted on 01/25/2011 9:47:53 AM PST by Mr. K (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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14 posted on 01/25/2011 9:48:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Hawk720

Freeze spending at a record high level???? Nice try.


15 posted on 01/25/2011 9:48:44 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Hawk720

If you’re spending too much, you don’t freeze the spending at the “too much” level.

You CUT spending.

Moron.


16 posted on 01/25/2011 9:49:00 AM PST by paulycy (Liberals suck all the joy out of America. Let's make them stop.)
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To: Mr. K
Freez at 20086 levels ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17 posted on 01/25/2011 9:49:36 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Hawk720
Trying to cut off a roll back, more Clintoon triangulations
18 posted on 01/25/2011 9:49:56 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Hawk720

“Calling” for it, and “getting” it, are two very different things....


19 posted on 01/25/2011 9:50:18 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Hawk720

Got his socialist DeathCare passed so it`s IN, can`t be subject to any freeze.

His agenda is passed, Czars rule by decree so he can feint to the middle and pretend to be moderate for 2 years.

Re-election is guaranteed.

Bookmark this one in stone


20 posted on 01/25/2011 9:51:28 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: NELSON111

“he makes it his policy to spend no more money?”

Where do you see him promising to spend “no more money”?
His “freeze” is a lie meant to make it look like he’s reducing spending, but in reality he’s fixing spending increases at current levels. He’s doubled spending in the last two years for his progressive b.s. and intends to keep spending. We need to cut spending, not fix the increase at present levels.


21 posted on 01/25/2011 9:51:36 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: FrankR

Freeze spending at high levels, then say you need higher taxes.


22 posted on 01/25/2011 9:52:30 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Hawk720

Spending levels are already too high. They should be CUT.


23 posted on 01/25/2011 9:53:04 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Hawk720

Freeze means only the usual 5% annual increase but no more beyond that and this time I mean it.


24 posted on 01/25/2011 9:53:28 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: NELSON111
.THEN he makes it his policy to spend no more money?

Correction: Freezes his spending level at its highest. Clever, no?

25 posted on 01/25/2011 9:54:27 AM PST by paulycy (Liberals suck all the joy out of America. Let's make them stop.)
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To: Hawk720

Freeze spending vs. cutting spending ?

Not convinced Mr. Soetero has seen the light, and nothing he talks about tonight will change that. He is a marxist, he doesn’t plan to do what is necessary.

If he were to drive getting some serious cuts in spending done... he would finally have his first accomplishment in office. His whacked-out liberal ideology is in the way, he won’t do it.


26 posted on 01/25/2011 9:54:37 AM PST by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: palmer
I think you get it.

Yes, spending levels are too high, and people are rightfully demanding serious cuts. The cuts are the correct solution. The fact that Obama is not promising cuts is a clear indication that he doesn't "get it".

But the really essential thing is that Obama is not honestly calling for even a true freeze (as bad as that would be). He's going to call it a freeze, and then he's going to increase spending. He is shameless.

27 posted on 01/25/2011 9:57:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Hawk720

Defund Obamacare, HHS, HUD, DOE, EPA, UN and then cut back to ˜04 levels.


28 posted on 01/25/2011 9:57:24 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: palmer

Agreed. Obama is probably using the “baseline spending” ruse which has built in annual increases. Also, according to the article he is allegedly “freezing” only “non-security, discretionary” spending. That excludes so called “emergency” spending which is just about everything in the budget. He’s also probably excluding his “investments” which, of course, are not spending at all.


29 posted on 01/25/2011 9:57:58 AM PST by wise_caucasian
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To: Hawk720

Since the Democrats think this is such a great idea, and they also think Bill Clinton was such a great president, let’s freeze spending alright....at the level of Bill Clinton’s last year in office, 2000.


30 posted on 01/25/2011 9:58:11 AM PST by LOC1
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To: Hawk720

After he jacks up our spending, he thinks it is an accomplishment to freeze it at that level for 5 years. We can’t MAINTAIN that level of spending for 5 years.


31 posted on 01/25/2011 9:59:25 AM PST by Brownie63
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To: Hawk720

Looks like the Obama speech-writers are having a hard time today. They’re throwing out all kinds of trial balloons.


32 posted on 01/25/2011 10:00:12 AM PST by what's up
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To: ClearCase_guy
No COLA for social security for 5 additional years?

No bailouts of any kind?

Congressmen Brad Sherman and Paul Kanjorski and Senator James Inhofe all say that the government warned of martial law if Tarp wasn't passed.

Obama responded, “You know, if my neighbor’s house is on fire, even if they were smoking in the bedroom or leaving the stove on, right now my main incentive is to put out that fire so that it doesn’t spread to my house.”

No investment in green technology?

WASHINGTON — The changing global climate will pose profound strategic challenges to the United States in coming decades, raising the prospect of military intervention to deal with the effects of violent storms, drought, mass migration and pandemics, military and intelligence analysts say.

Such climate-induced crises could topple governments, feed terrorist movements or destabilize entire regions, say the analysts, experts at the Pentagon and intelligence agencies who for the first time are taking a serious look at the national security implications of climate change.

No additional funds for education?

At a ceremony at the White House on Tuesday, First Lady Michelle Obama announced the launch of the 'Let's Move' campaign to end childhood obesity in the United States, an epidemic she said is costly and a threat to national security.

33 posted on 01/25/2011 10:01:03 AM PST by Irenic
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

By “No More Money” I mean he proposes to not spend more money than the current budget...not that he isn’t spending ANY more money...just no more/no less...


34 posted on 01/25/2011 10:01:05 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Hawk720
And for his next trick he will make the elephants disappear.

If just 30% of the population were as savvy as Freepers then I would be amused by this lame bit of legerdemain.

Unfortunately, they aren't and we are soooo screwed!

35 posted on 01/25/2011 10:03:24 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Fear God and Government - especially when one tries to become the other!)
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To: Hawk720

NO FREEZE

CUT SPENDING


36 posted on 01/25/2011 10:04:46 AM PST by Carley (IDEOLOGY TRUMPS FACTS IN THE LEFT'S QUEST FOR POWER)
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To: Hawk720

This sounds like a last ditch effort to prevent REDUCTIONS in spending! Don’t fall for it!


37 posted on 01/25/2011 10:05:25 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: Hawk720
Obama can make all the proclamations he wants, but the fact is that the Federal Budget will come from the Republican controlled House of Representative.

We can expect it to be a Balanced Budget in no time.

38 posted on 01/25/2011 10:06:42 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: rarestia
"Yep! Security is going to become the next bastardized political watchword! "

Yes. Global warming/climate change is a national security threat, you betcha.

39 posted on 01/25/2011 10:08:02 AM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! Whooorah, Arizona!)
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To: NELSON111
I mean he proposes to not spend more money than the current budget

What "budget"???

40 posted on 01/25/2011 10:09:18 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Hawk720

It’s a CON! Just like the pay freezes in federal employees. The pay rates were frozen, but EVERYONE got merit/step increases into the next higher pay grade, so although they technically did not get “raises” their pay increased because they were re-classified into a higher grade where the “frozen pay rate” was above the “frozen pay grade” they were just promoted out of.

No matter how thin you slice it, it’s still baloney!


41 posted on 01/25/2011 10:09:37 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: Hawk720

This from the professional liar himself.


42 posted on 01/25/2011 10:12:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Hawk720

“Freeze” at the highest levels in history


43 posted on 01/25/2011 10:23:13 AM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Hawk720

This @ssclown takes us for idiots.

If for two years I or my spouse run up our credit card debt by spending $1,000 a month more than we bring in, we don’t “freeze” our spending at a level that’s already been proven to be a disaster, we cut back until we actually start chewing into the accumulated debt. Or we figure out how to make a lot more money.

Obama is incapable of pursuing either approach.


44 posted on 01/25/2011 10:29:42 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Hawk720
Sorry, but spending must be cut back to levels from earlier this decade, not frozen at the ridiculously high levels currently in place. The GOP's response must include a statement like this, and the GOP's mantra should be to cut, not freeze.
45 posted on 01/25/2011 10:31:00 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Democrat Motto - "A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can put its pants on.")
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To: Stosh
This @ssclown takes us for idiots.

51% of the country ARE idiots... the Dem voters to be specific.

46 posted on 01/25/2011 10:35:02 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Hawk720

Usually these “freezes” mean nothing beyond inflationary increases. So the budget will contiue to grow along with the deficits.


47 posted on 01/25/2011 10:42:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: Major Matt Mason
Since the entitlement programs and debt servicing costs make up half of the budget and consume all of the tax revenue, this freeze on non-security funding is meaningless. Here is a video illustrating our problem.

Budget cuts

48 posted on 01/25/2011 10:45:24 AM PST by kabar
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To: ltc8k6

Food security
Healthcare security
House security
Heating and cooling security
etc.


49 posted on 01/25/2011 10:50:17 AM PST by sheana
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To: Hawk720

Other Breaking News: Kevin Martin says, “Yeah Right!”


50 posted on 01/25/2011 11:10:53 AM PST by Trueblackman (The Tea Party is right big government doesn't work and 6 people are dead.)
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