Aides mulling tactic on gun control

Politico44 ^ | 01/25/11 | GLENN THRUSH

[ColdOne]

President Obama’s advisers were still discussing late Monday how to deal with calls by Democrats for him to embrace some kind of gun control legislation.

There was at least some possibility that Obama would express support for something concrete in his State of the Union address, perhaps safeguards for keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill.

[Gaffer]

Gun control for the mentally ill....hmmmmm....that lets Democrats out of the 2A thing, huh?

[DCBryan1]

, perhaps safeguards for keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill.

DemoncRAT doublespeak for: "those of you who oppose me".

[Michael Barnes]

uh-huh. And just who is going to determine what is "mentally ill"?

Joe Blow has twenty two guns; all registered (his mistake) and is categorized with compulsive behavior and is mentally ill?
Or the great white hunter with a couple thousand rounds and some (gasp) black powder? That black powder MUST mean they are pyro-maniacs; mentally ill! Confiscate their warez...

[Paladin2]

What do they call the BATF? Shirley?

[JPG]

Gore lost TN in ‘00 because of his loony support of ‘gun control’. Go ahead, Rats, grab that gun control mantra by the tail. If you do, you better ever not let go.

[La Lydia]

A Clinton administration policy made it possible for the very troubled Jared Loughner to buy a gun. Instituted by Janet Reno (not enacted by Congress), the policy prohibited the military from reporting drug abusers to the FBI, which manages the national list of prohibited gun-buyers. Loughner attempted to enlist in the Army in December 2008 but was rejected because he failed a drug test. Within a year, he was allowed to buy a shotgun in Tucson. So theoretically, all Obama has to do is order Holder to reverse the Reno rule.

[Noamie]

I can sum up my feelings like this:

I mistrust Democrats so much, as it regards 2A Rights, that even if they told me they were writing legislation to specifically keep Charles Manson from buying/owning a pistol, I wouldn’t sign on to it.

I don’t believe that they are informed, competent, reasonable, nor trustworthy enough to craft gun legislation of any kind. Period.

[RickB444]

This is a suicide idea. Liberals love gun control but it always comes back and bites them big time. I guess this proves that they are the ones who are mentally ill. After all isn’t it proof of insanity when you keep doing something over and over and over expecting a different outcome?

That is Democrats and gun control.

If they touch this “third rail” issue I am sure it will help make them the minority after 2012.

[ArrogantBustard]

I don’t believe that they [Democrats] are informed, competent, reasonable, nor trustworthy enough to craft gun legislation of any kind. Period.

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[TLI]

Let's see, here is a good suggestion.

"Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes a determination by a court board, commission, or other lawful authority that you are a danger to yourself or others or are incompetent to manage your own affairs) OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?"

Interesting in that it sounds so familiar...

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[DTogo]

Which of these Constitutionally established Rights doesn't apply to the "mentally ill?"

1st, Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition

2nd, Right to keep and bear arms.

3rd, Protection from quartering of troops.

4th, Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.

5th, Due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.

6th, Trial by jury and rights of the accused; Confrontation Clause, speedy trial, public trial, right to counsel

7th, Civil trial by jury.

8th, Prohibition of excessive bail and cruel and unusual punishment.

9th, Protection of rights not specifically enumerated in the Constitution.

10th, Powers of States and people.

[SZonian]

If memory serves correctly, they floated a trial balloon some time ago about this.

Wanted to classify vets with PTSD or any other neurological disorder in the category of “mentally defective” or something to that effect.

[ozzymandus]

Exactly. It's already on the yellow sheet you have to fill out when buying a gun, and lying on the form is a federal offense. Plus, there's already a phone-in background check. If you're willing to commit a federal crime, you can buy a gun if you've just escaped from the looney bin. Especially if an incompetent RAT hack sheriff like in Tucson doesn't bother to follow the law.

[cowboyway]

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[sima_yi]

Is Obama trying to regain his title as “Gun Salesman of the Year”?

[556x45]

Yes, I think so ala the old Soviet tactic of hustling dissenters off to the nutty farm. The dems have gotten pretty good at deeming lately....

[oyez]

they were writing legislation to specifically keep Charles Manson from buying/owning a pistol

That would be a trick. Mason would have no chance owning a piece if he is in prison for life.

[The Comedian]

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[Oldpuppymax]

The “mentally ill?” That is Hussein’s definition of Republicans/conservatives/whites, isn’t it!!!