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Posted on 01/25/2011 1:42:00 PM PST by Sub-Driver
Calif. Discovers Fluorescent Lightbulbs Burning Out Faster Than Predicted
State government concludes that it will not realize the savings it expected
It was all flowers and roses when the state of California launched its $548M USD program to help promote consumer use of compact fluorescent lamps. Manufacturers and utilities were onboard because they received bonus pay to enact rebate programs. Citizens were happy as they received cheap CFL bulbs, which promised to save them money on power expenses. And the politicians were happy, as they looked sufficiently "green" to satisfy the eco-minded voters.
Now that utopian vision of futuristic lighting has dissolved into rancor and disappointment. A multi-million dollar program by the state designed to evaluate the actual results has concluded that energy savings were not as good as expected and that utilities were being over-rewarded for their performance.
At the heart of the problems is the fact that utility provider Pacific Gas & Electricity Corp (PG&E) has forced to cut estimates of CFL life average lifetimes from 9.3 years in 2006 to 6.3 years. The shorter-than-expected lifetime was due largely to people turning CFL lights on and off, and the fact that CFL bulbs were often put in disadvantageous locations like bathrooms or recessed lighting.
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What’s happening to all the mercury in those dead bulbs that provided such inferior light? Expect to hear of mercury poisoning in the near future.
Hoarding 100 Watt incandescents in our basement. Need to keep at it.
--- Gollee, Gomer, NO ONE could have predicted THAT !!!
, and the fact that CFL bulbs were often put in disadvantageous locations like bathrooms or recessed lighting.
Those silly people - trying to use them in regular places like that !
Roll out the affordable LEDs already !
The EPA has a 3 PAGE "blurb" on what to do if one of these new bulbs break in your home. 3 PAGES!
Open a window, do NOT sweep, vacuum or pick up the broken bulb. Wait 10 minutes and use TAPE to pick up the pieces.
Yeah, sounds like a real winner to me.
Now if only liberals would burn out faster than expected.....
when you need them?
I’ve had a few LED bulbs experience near-infant mortality.
File this one under the “no duh sherlock” category.
Many have complained about this for years.
I’ve had mixed “success” with the CFL’s, so I’m not completely sold on them.
Been buying incandescents wherever and whenever I see them. Have hundreds stockpiled.
I've had a few incandescents expeience a brief poof of light then die when first energized.
Six YEARS still isn’t bad compared to the 4 months or so I get from incandescents.
Kind of like all the liberal policies.
“Unexpected” should be the #1 liberal word of the last century.
WE JUST BOUGHT OUT THE ENTIRE SUPPLY OF 100, 150 AND 200 WATT BULBS AT OUR LOCAL HOME DEPOT BEFORE THE INSANITY COMES TO ARIZONA.
GOING TO LOWES NEXT TO GET THEIRS.
These suckers have a tendency to EXPLODE as well.
I’ve seen 3 of them at our office explode instead of burn out.
...last week Walmart had the new bulbs out on the shelf...a 3-way curley-que bulb was $9.00!!!....how many people in our rural high-unemployment county are going to buy those I wonder??
I’ve replaced a $12 CFL in my kitchen 3 x’s in the last year. That was after paying to have all the recessed kichen light fixtures ugraded from 30 yr old fixtures.
100W blubs are ILLEGAL to purchase or sell in California as of Jan 1st. My nearly-blind 89 yr old mother in law cannot legally purchase light bulbs of sufficient wattage to help her see what little is possible but, gawd forbid a parent buy their kid a happy meal in S.F.....
>>>The shorter-than-expected lifetime was due largely to people turning CFL lights on and off, and the fact that CFL bulbs were often put in disadvantageous locations like bathrooms or recessed lighting.<<<
That makes sense, if the citizens would simply never turn their CFL bulbs on, they would last forever.
Fire is good enough for me. Computers and cell phones have their own lights anyway.
I've been stockpiling them for years. Also been storing up on oil lamps, lanters and oil for when they start rationing the electricity.
I’m SHOCKED——SHOCKED, I TELL YOU. Why am I shocked? That anyone ever bought into this crap. These bulbs are killed by frequent on/off/on/off usage and everyone with a brain KNEW IT. Cutting expected life prediction by 1/3 raises the cost by 1/3. Did they really expect people to NOT use these CURLY FRIES in bathrooms, closets, hallways, stair rises?
[ Roll out the affordable LEDs already ! ]
The LED Accent bulbs they sell work great as appliance light bulb replacements, they work in very cold environments. I have had to replace the bulb in my freezer many times, until I replaced them with an LED bulb, still working months later... Plus it doesn’t add as much heat back into the system and are non-toxic so they are better in refrigerator/freezer than CFLs.
They really work great at appliance replacements bulbs.
They shaped those bulbs like that for a reason and message.
Who pays when the lawsuites start over all the mercury in these bulbs?
indeed, they’d last probably almost as long as promised if they were never turned on.
The other way to get longer life out of them is to leave them on all the time. But what kind of dummass liberal would think you would save electricity by leaving the light on all the time to keep from burning the bulb out sooner?
Hunt you a supplier that sells bubls to hospitals, etc. and buy your extended life incandescents from them. More expensive but still available
has forced to cut estimates of CFL life average lifetimes from 9.3 years in 2006 to 6.3 years.
That durability has not been my experience. Yes, they last longer than incandescents. But not nearly that much longer.
My father was telling me this. I pointed out to him that his central vac exhausts outside
>> The shorter-than-expected lifetime was due largely to people turning CFL lights on and off
So to benefit from CFL, you need to leave the lights on...
You can get incandescent light bulbs rated for 25,000 hours that are used by the hospitality industry. If you use them for an average of 7 hours a day theyll burn out in just a little under 10 years and cost about a buck or less per bulb depending on how many you buy.
Once you stock up all youll have to do is watch out for the light bulb police wholl be monitoring everyone who might be using those unauthorized, evil incandescents!
CREE LED bulbs.
That means that you will spend $4 over 9 years instead of $3 per bulb. That gets you more than $150 savings in electricity. Still a good deal.
Once upon a time, I got a package of CFLs at Sam’s Club. They barely lasted six months.
The next time, I got three CFLs from Menards with 8 year warranties, and I kept the receipt and original packaging (which has the UPC). They last, on average, about 9 months. They burn out, I take them back with the receipt and packaging and get a new one. a PITA, to be sure, but at least I’m not completely screwed.
>> Did they really expect people to NOT use these CURLY FRIES in bathrooms, closets, hallways, stair rises?
Facts are irrelevant to fascists.
I’ve been in the same house for 23 years. I still have the ORIGINAL incandescent bulbs in the hallway, and 6 over-sized bulbs surviving in the bathrooms that get turned on and off for hours a day!
I wouldn’t feel so bad, if I just wasn’t contributing to global warming!
YEAH RIGHT... Take your global-saving, long-lasting fluorescent bulbs and light up the area where the sun don’t shine!
I did order a case from an on-line merchant. They were only able to sell Philips across state lines.....shipping GEs to California was forbidden......Thomas Edison would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that lightbulbs would be a “controlled” substance.....face palm
Let me preface the following with the qualification that I don’t like federal mandates for these things. However, I adopted these things (CFL’s) back when they were $5 a pop, without the subsidy. The reason? The payback threshold for these bulbs is pretty low. A 100W traditional bulb-equivalent CFL uses 26W of energy. That’s 74W of savings. If they last 1 year, a mere 2 hours a day of usage results in the full recovery of the bulb’s cost, assuming power costs $0.10 per kWH (74 x 2 x 365 / 1000W x .10) = $5.475.
They don't last anything close to 6 years. When they first came on the market several years ago I bought into the hype and installed them in my house. They're garbage. They start dimming within a few months and after a year or so (if they last that long) give off about half the sickly yellow light they did when new. They fail within 2 years on average if you can stand them that long. I replaced them all with regular incandescent bulbs as fast as I could.
I went back to Edison bulbs and saved the money.
Mine stash is in my will.
They seem to either burn out in a few months or last several years. I’ve had one burning 24/7/365 for 6 years in my dark basement.
I do have a nice hoard of incandescents though.
In places that get snow and freezing rain (probably freezing water
from burst water mains, too), the LED traffic lights don't put out
enough heat to keep themselves clear. I think they had to add
some sort of heater.
If you were in California, the higher tier rates for most are more than $0.30 per kwhhr.
What a joke. I could have told them that. Do not ever purchase a CFL spotlight. All it is, is a regular CFL bulb placed inside of a spotlight envelope. So, heat builds up inside the envelope, and the CFL bulb burns out prematurely. I had this experience with CFL spotlights purchased at Costco in a three-pack. Purchased two of them before I figured out what was going on.
Another fraud is the LEDs used to replace the bulbs used in traffic signals. They cost many times more but here in CA, LEDs are being used because they supposedly last far longer. Well, now that they have gotten widespread usage and been in for a while, one frequently sees a traffic signal with several burnt out LEDs. What a joke.
Better go out and purchase lots of incandescent 3 way bulbs as they will be off the market by next year.
Incandescent bulb: 100 W - no ice
LED Bulb 10 Watts - ice buildup.
Solution - add 100 Watt heaters.