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Air Force flights - Limit Kona airport use
West Hawaii Today ^ | Monday, January 24, 2011 | West Hawaii Today

Posted on 01/26/2011 12:51:15 PM PST by LeoWindhorse

Hawaii - NIMBY Alert !

Awakened once again by the roaring of Air Force C-17 maneuvers just down the hill at Kona International Airport, I am prompted to write. I'm want to launch a community discussion on the increased military use of our airport and the appalling sound pollution caused by aircraft maneuvers.

It has been determined, by the Air Force and state that Kona International Airport is ideal for such purposes and increased military use is planned. As I see it Kona is at a critical crossroads in determining the future of our quality of life and livelihood.

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KEYWORDS: hawaii; kona; moonbats; pta
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1 posted on 01/26/2011 12:51:18 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

One good published response so far :

http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/articles/2011/01/26/opinion/letters_-_your_voice/letters01.txt

Please consider joining this discussion .....

Mahalo !


2 posted on 01/26/2011 12:52:30 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

I, for one, LOVE airplane noise!


3 posted on 01/26/2011 12:55:08 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
...in determining the future of our quality of life and livelihood...

Perhaps this chap should move to a country where the government determines his quality of life. (I know, it is already starting here)

4 posted on 01/26/2011 12:59:55 PM PST by Never on my watch (When Obama was born, the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" was in production. Coincidence?)
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To: CodeToad

Me too!


5 posted on 01/26/2011 1:00:05 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Ever Been on an Aircraft Carrier? Airport “noise” is NOTHING!


6 posted on 01/26/2011 1:01:30 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: LeoWindhorse

They should send in some search and rescue choppers to look for Bammy’s birth certificate.


7 posted on 01/26/2011 1:01:48 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CodeToad
The sound of freedom baby! F-15’s cruise by my office all the time. I love the wall-rattling vertical take-offs followed by all of the car alarms going off.
8 posted on 01/26/2011 1:02:41 PM PST by Never on my watch (When Obama was born, the movie "The Manchurian Candidate" was in production. Coincidence?)
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To: CodeToad
I, for one, LOVE airplane noise!

I was stationed near a U.S. Air Force Base in Germany in the '70s. There was a story going around that the some of the locals had approached the base commander complaining about the noise from the airplanes flying overhead.

The story went that he told them that there would be aircraft overhead, no matter what... the only difference would be whether they had white stars or red stars painted on them.

I don't know how the rest of the conversation went, but the AFB is still there.

9 posted on 01/26/2011 1:03:21 PM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when WAY OVER half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: CodeToad

Oh Please. I used to live and fish in Kona. The flight path is over the ocean to the north and south. The Airport is out on a Peninsula and the planes come in and out from the Ocean.


10 posted on 01/26/2011 1:08:59 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Never on my watch

My office is right next door to Centennial, the 2nd busiest GA airport. We get all kinds of aircraft flying outta here, not to mention our own airplanes we fly.


11 posted on 01/26/2011 1:10:16 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: screaminsunshine

So, airplane noise has to be minimal anyway. Dummies. Years before they closed the base I lived at Myrtle Beach AFB with the A-10s. Same thing: The runway was aligned with the ocean. Yet, people complained about noise they barely could hear. The tourists loved the sights of the A-10’s flying overhead.


12 posted on 01/26/2011 1:13:05 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Every one in a while I used to go up to the flight deck to make sure somebody hadn’t painted “Please drop chains here from the hours of 0100-0800” directly over my room.


13 posted on 01/26/2011 1:13:46 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: CodeToad
Yeah....it's when you DON'T hear that sound you have to worry....

and every day 0bambi is in office brings that day nearer.

14 posted on 01/26/2011 1:14:31 PM PST by spokeshave (Issa is a self-made man. He was in the military doing bomb disposal, must be pretty fearless.)
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To: CodeToad

You can not even hear the planes in Kona. But there are a lot of Libkooks there.


15 posted on 01/26/2011 1:14:59 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: USNBandit

“directly over my room” na just why should YOUR room be special, we dropped ‘em over EVERYBODY’S room.


16 posted on 01/26/2011 1:15:10 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Joe 6-pack

This libnut lives in the new rent subsidized housing unit above the airport. That should give you a clue.


17 posted on 01/26/2011 1:18:19 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: screaminsunshine

please FREEP to Poll on the website folks

It’s important to us out here .

We are heavily out numbered and on the offensive


18 posted on 01/26/2011 1:20:04 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

Hey are you in Kona?


19 posted on 01/26/2011 1:22:16 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Wheres the poll I can’t find it.


20 posted on 01/26/2011 1:25:55 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: CodeToad

In late July 1989, I was jogging along the road in Myrtle Beach near the AFB. While I was huffing/puffing, a flight of A-10s took off and roared by. Great sight to this old zoomie. Then Saddam invaded Kuwait and three days after I saw them, the entire squadron had deployed to Saudi Arabia.


21 posted on 01/26/2011 1:26:37 PM PST by Ax
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To: All

Barbra Streisand rented the home of Dr. Gene and Beth Grace (509 North Street, Downtown Beaufort; private residence) during the filming. She had a privacy screen erected around the house (which had a swimming pool) and added personal touches to the interior (bathroom carpeting, for example).

[snip]
Director Barbra Streisand did not enjoy as “harmonious” a relationship with the Marine Corps Air Station (Main Gate at the intersection of U. S. Highway 21 and SC 116). as Lewis John Carlino, the director of The Great Santini. Frustrated by the noise from military jets flying over the areas in which she was filming, Ms. Streisand phoned the base commanding officer to request a halt in flights. She was not pleased when the colonel did not grant her request.

The Prince of Tides was filmed in 1990 in Beaufort; the Gulf War was in 1991.
http://beaufortcountylibrary.org/


22 posted on 01/26/2011 1:27:43 PM PST by Irenic
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To: LeoWindhorse

This bears some resemblance to a previous incident in AZ some years back about a resident complaining of jet noise.

I know, it’s snopes, but they confirmed it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/wakeup.asp


23 posted on 01/26/2011 1:30:16 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

That is the sound of FREEDOM !!!

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24 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:26 PM PST by Dixie Pirate (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
I grew up in a home that was directly under the base leg for the commercial aircraft. Went from turboprops to jet engines.

Spent most of the rest of my life on Air Force bases. With 24 hour ops and the jet engine test facility there was almost always noise. I loved it.

I now live under part of the training area for fighters and choppers at Quantico MCB. Not as frequent but I can almost get my fix now and then.

25 posted on 01/26/2011 1:41:00 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: PalmettoMason

When the Germans complained of GIs loud behavior in the
gasthause, the reply was “When the Russians come...”


26 posted on 01/26/2011 1:43:00 PM PST by rahbert
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To: screaminsunshine

right hand side - side bar - a little lower down


27 posted on 01/26/2011 1:43:52 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

I love watching the 17’s do touch and go’s at Kona airport! (should have been named Onizuka International Airport IMHO) Love the view at the dive site south of the field when they are down low. Very impressive and different sound. I see an occasional P3 sub hunter as well.


28 posted on 01/26/2011 2:12:16 PM PST by Species8472 ( Politically motivated science is called propaganda)
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To: US Navy Vet

Wasn’t as bad as the stateroom I had next to the weapons elevator shaft. It would run all night, and when it wasn’t running the guy on the other side of the shaft had an electric guitar.


29 posted on 01/26/2011 2:14:43 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

we also have U.S.N. P-3 Orion’s practicing touch & go (flights of 2) almost every day as well . They fly out of MCBH , now that Barbers Point is closed ( I think)
These crews are being chimed on by the nimbys too

Anchors Away !


30 posted on 01/26/2011 2:19:15 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
The biggest bunch of NIMBYs are the people that complain about jet noise in Va. Beach. When it was built Oceana was out in the middle of nowhere, people moved out their, built neighborhoods and then started complaining about noise. They organized a group called the Citizens Against Jet Noise that was headed by (wait for it) a retired Navy Captain (shoe warfare.)

The Navy threatened to shut down the base and the community started screaming. Evidently, they don't want the base to close, they just want the airplanes to leave. I'm not sure what the Navy is supposed to do with a base that is 5 miles inland that you can't operate aircraft from. I want so badly to shut down that base.

31 posted on 01/26/2011 2:28:13 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: OldMissileer

It startles you at first, but it’s amazing how quickly you get used to it.

Then, it startles you when it’s quiet. Test Cell was the $hit !!


32 posted on 01/26/2011 2:30:44 PM PST by onona (Former Jet Engine Mechanic)
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To: LeoWindhorse
I am about 9 miles south of the airport, and never hear the C-17s. I do hear the big jumbo airliners sometimes, even at that distance.

This article is from yet another military hater on the islands. Quite a few around, including ones that just knew the Superferry was a military plot, and that the US was at fault for Pearl harbor by antagonizing the Japanese by basing the navy there.

33 posted on 01/26/2011 3:38:34 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

Kailua-Kona ? I was there 3 years ago . Stayed in Keauhou ( Outrigger Kanaloa ) . Loved it and will return some day soon !


34 posted on 01/26/2011 10:00:10 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman
Stayed there one time last year while enduring a seemingly endless string of house hunting trips. Luckily, it was only a 1/2 hour flight+ usual BS from Oahu, not the 6 hour + from the mainland.

Nice hotel, nice breakfast buffet, not enough time to sample the rest of the place. Well away from the crowded part of Kailua. Would definitely choose it over any of the ritzy Wailoloa places.

Come back and stay, the BI needs more conservatives................

35 posted on 01/26/2011 10:30:11 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: LeoWindhorse
If we had the airforce practicing landings/takeoffs on Dec. 7, 1941 a lot of lives could have been saved. I love the freedom I have here in the United States. I also love to hear people complain about such trivial inconveniances like military noise at airports. It makes me greatful that I am not an ignorant pansy that needs to move into some bunker in a nice safe place on antarctica.
36 posted on 12/14/2011 12:01:08 PM PST by Big Island Rooster
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