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Friend Says Hawaii Gov Told Him There Is No Obama Birth Certificate: Daily Caller
Fox ^ | 1/26/11 | staff

Posted on 01/26/2011 12:54:03 PM PST by pissant

Celebrity journalist Mike Evans told Minnesota's KQRS radio last week that his friend, Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie, has been unable to find President Barack Obama's birth certificate despite an intensive search.

A group of conspiracy theorists known as "birthers" have long claimed that Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the presidency because he was actually born in Kenya. Abercrombie, an old friend of Obama's family, made headlines last month when he announced that he was trying to figure out how he could release more explicit documentation of the president's birth in order to permanently defuse the issue before the 2012 elections. He quickly abandoned his search, however, due to state laws that prevent private documents from being revealed.

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KEYWORDS: certifigate; larrysinclairslover; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 01/26/2011 12:54:05 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Obama may not be able to run as POTUS in Arizona.


2 posted on 01/26/2011 12:56:59 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: pissant

I hope the governor of my red state, LePage, makes a law like Arizona’s too.


3 posted on 01/26/2011 12:58:33 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: pissant

They still have two years to create a nice forgery.


4 posted on 01/26/2011 1:00:02 PM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: pissant
Here is the transcript of that interview:


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT:

Mike Evans: I have a personal interest so I thought I’d share it with you. Former U.S. Congressman from Hawaii Neal Abercrombie has been a friend of mine for decades. In fact, when I first met Neal he was driving a cab in Honolulu. Well, Neal and I spent a lot of time together in Washington, D.C. during Obama’s inauguration. Neal told me then that he was gonna run for governor of Hawaii, that he had…, that, that he’d had enough of being a U.S. Congressman. He also told me that…stories … he had told me many times after Barack became famous, that he was in college going to the University of Hawaii, he was a friend of Barack Obama’s dad and that he remembers Barack Obama as a little kid. He used to call him “Barry.” In fact, I did a TV interview with, uh, Abercrombie at CSPAN the day after the inauguration and we had to … we had to stop twice because he referred to the President as Barry which he … after he did he said, “I can’t do that, I gotta call him Mr. President.” Well, when Neal promised me that when he became governor, he was going to cut through all the red tape, he was going to get Obama’s birth certificate once-and-for-all and end this stupid controvery, th.. that he was not born in the United States. “Yesterday talking in Neal’s office, Neal says that he searched everywhere using his power as governor at the [I didn’t understand this] Women’s and Children’s Hospital in Queen’s Hospital, the only place that kids were born in Hawaii back when Barack was born, … there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii.

Second Speaker: Really?

Mike Evans: Absolutely no proof, at all, that he was born in Hawaii.

Third Speaker: Wow!

Mike Evans: Now he went out, he LOVES Obama. I mean he purposely did this to get rid of that, that question. Now, got some egg in the face. I mean now he admits publically that there is no birth certificate.

Second Speaker: Well,… there might be an addendum to that. There is the story there is a birth announcement. But it’s been explaned. His grandparents could called the newspaper and said, ‘Hey! He, we kn…, our grandchild was born. And ah… he didn’t have to be born in Hawaii for that. So its raising the issue again.”

Mike Evans: Absolutely!

Second Speaker: … after it seemed to be put to bed.

Mike Evans: And I asked him, I go, “Well, when do you remember when do you remember Barack? When’s your first memory?” And he goes, ‘I remember him playing, like, in the T-ball league.’ And I go, “Well, when he was, like, five or six.” And he goes, “Something like that.” And I go, “Well, what about before that?” And he goes, “Well, I don’t really remember him much before that.” which I thought was very odd.

Second Speaker: Really?

Mike Evans: Anyway.

Second Speaker: I have a question for you.

Mike Evans: Yeah?

Second Speaker: According to …ah, ah, … federal law, and I don’t know constitution law, but I assume it would be … ah … why is he allowed to be president of the United States then if he can’t prove he is a U.S. citizen?

Mike Evans: Well that’s … that’s…

Second Speaker: Was he born here? That’s the big question. [This may not be quite right. I had trouble understanding.] That’s weird.

Mike Evans: And now now Abercrombie is the first to say that he he, that Abercrombie is a Obama lover …

Second Speaker: Right

Mike Evans: … that he’s concerned that … that is really going to be an issue during the election, re-election. Second Speaker: So it has taken off as a, a big story again, huh?

Mike Evans: Yes.

Second Speaker: Well, well, what’s interesting about it is that this guy attacked people who questioned that he was born in Hawaii just a few weeks ago.

Mike Evans: Neal did.

Second Speaker: Yes.

Mike Evans: Yeah, I mean … I’m tellin’ ya’. Neal and I are buddies and during this whole inauguration when I was in Washington for those a ten days, I spent a lot of time with Neal, and anytime anybody would come up and bring this up, you’re right, Neal was almost militant about it. “I remember him as a kid. He’s from Hawaii, born and raised …“ so, needless to say, I’m sure he was shocked more than anybody by this whole thing.

Second Speaker: Don’t you have to produce … papers that say you were

Mike Evans: You’d think so. You’d have to, wouldn’t cha’? Second Speaker: Well, there’s been a certificate of Live Birth, but that’s being questioned too, because you don’t have to … it’s not the official Birth Certificate.

Mike Evans: There’d have to be one at the hospital, signed by the doctor certifying birth by a … a birth. And there isn’t that.

Second Speaker: You’re kidding me.

Mike Evans: It’s like aaaa… baptism papers. It’s not worth the paper it’s written on, really.

Second Speaker: Well, Mike, how hard would it be to find out what doctors were on then.

Mike Evans: Apparently he can’t find any of that … that says that they were there.

END TRANSCRIPT


I apologize for mispelling Neil.

5 posted on 01/26/2011 1:00:47 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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To: tsowellfan

This should show people that the states can control the Federal government. From what I hear, we only need three more states doing the same thing that Arizona is doing and candidates must prove that they are truly a citizen of the US.


6 posted on 01/26/2011 1:01:08 PM PST by RC2
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To: pissant

This report is not true. Mike Evans misspoke about the incident. He never talked to the Hawaii governor. He left a message to talk with the governor but his call was not returned. I heard Mike Evans on Peter Boyles show today indicate that he did not speak with the governor.

However, the gist of the situation remains the same. Governemnt officials in Hawaii cannot find Obama’s birth certificate (long form). The absence of a definitive statement by the governor is clear indication that the record could not be found.


7 posted on 01/26/2011 1:02:25 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: pissant
I just don't see why it matters about his place of birth. If his father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was never an American citizen then he is already in office illegally. The place of birth is just a double whammy.
8 posted on 01/26/2011 1:02:38 PM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: pissant

Ooops! If they can’t fake and lie their way out of this, it looks like the old hippie pooped in his own hat.


9 posted on 01/26/2011 1:03:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: pissant

I hope this is all leading to the nixing of Obamacare and everything else Obama has signed as President.


10 posted on 01/26/2011 1:05:42 PM PST by Teflonic
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To: pissant

I am shocked, shocked that BHO doesn’t have a valid COLB.

(Captain Renault- like sarcasm)


11 posted on 01/26/2011 1:05:45 PM PST by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: pissant; All

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NEVER FORGET

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During the 1960’s I personally witnessed several new Mommies coming in to ship their cars back to Hawaii (via Matson Lines http://www.Matson.com ) shortly after their giving birth elsewhere, inside or outside the Mainland United States.

These new Mommies were told by other Mommies present to just go to the Honolulu Officals and proclaim that thier newborns were born in Hawaii and a Birth Certificate showing so would be automatically produced.

It was THAT commonplace ..and well known about by many.. back then..!!!

This was during a 9-10 year window after Hawaiian Statehood when they could get away with it.

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NEVER FORGET

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12 posted on 01/26/2011 1:07:24 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: pissant
YouTube:

Abercrombie Admits There Are No Obama Birth Records In Hawaii

Drudge has this posted today, "Abercrombie Admits There Are No Obama Birth Records In Hawaii" takes you to this YouTube interview.

13 posted on 01/26/2011 1:08:02 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: MagnoliaB

That is a completely different argument which is trying to find traction in the courts as well.


14 posted on 01/26/2011 1:08:19 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Jemian

See YouTube link of interview at post 13.


15 posted on 01/26/2011 1:09:03 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: MagnoliaB

You are correct I think! Obama could never have been a Natural Born Citizen from the instant the cretin was conceived, he could never be a Natural Born Citizen. His Father’s Nation governed his birth and the cretin is British FROM BIRTH.

But up till now, people have been barking about the Birth Certificate, and Obama was using it to shield himself from the real qustion regarding his citizenship! They Alynskied the hell out of the Birth Certificate issue as a cover, and it was DAMN effective. But the Gig is up now, because Barry doesn’t have a Long form! If he DID, he would have released THAT years ago. But we all know how that turned out, he hasn’t and won’t release it. He can’t, he doesn’t have one.

The COLB was a Smoke Screen. A clean wind has blown the smoke away now, and oh man...... the poodoo is about to hit the fan!


16 posted on 01/26/2011 1:09:14 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Jemian

Interesting.

Mike Evans is a regular call-in @ 8:20 each morning here to WNIS-790 in Norfolk. I wonder what he’ll have to say about it tomorrow.


17 posted on 01/26/2011 1:09:16 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: businessprofessor

Seems like Evans is changing his story. In the transcript he describes the whole conversation of asking Abercrombie when he first remembers seeing Obama, and Abercrombie said when he was playing T-ball, which Evans thought was strange (especially since Abercrombie had previously said he saw Ann and Barack and the baby together in social settings, I would add).

Now Evans says he didn’t have that conversation. Acted like he knew nothing about the claims Abercrombie had made about seeing Ann, Barack, and Barack II together.

More discrepancies. Par for the course with anything about Obama’s eligibility.


18 posted on 01/26/2011 1:11:17 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TexasCajun

Thanks. I’ve already downloaded it to my computer.


19 posted on 01/26/2011 1:14:08 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

That is EXACTLY what my mom told me. Hawaii was so loose about everything back then. Even today it isn’t much better. If you know the right person, ANYTHING is possible. The state is Corrupt as all hell.


20 posted on 01/26/2011 1:14:15 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: pissant; All

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Also, Barack Obama was born during the very time period that the American People really fell in love with JFK on TV during his extraordinary televised live Preidential News Conferences. Greatly inspiring new Mommies and Daddies to groom their new offspring to be President of the United States someday.

Very, very common during the year 1961.

I know, I was there.

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21 posted on 01/26/2011 1:14:15 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: TexasCajun

This has gone viral now!


22 posted on 01/26/2011 1:15:13 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: pissant

The real news is that this is being reported on Fox.


23 posted on 01/26/2011 1:15:31 PM PST by chopperman
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To: ScottinVA

Please try to record that one!


24 posted on 01/26/2011 1:16:38 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: ozzymandus

That depends on whether a state will pass an eligibility bill that will require transaction logs for the records, which would show if the records had been forged or altered.

I suspect that Abercrombie pooped in his own hat (as you say. lol) because after opening up this issue with great bravado to prepare the public for his newly-created long-form for Obama, the Obama machine read right here on FR that a bill was being recommended that would require transaction logs to be disclosed also.

All of a sudden the big plan hit the skids. That’s what the rule of law does to people planning crimes.

Now we need to make sure we get at least one state to pass such a law.

I’m asking people whose states don’t already have a proposed eligibility bill to e-mail their state legislators a copy of http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/final-short-form-eligibility-bill1.pdf and ask them to introduce and pass it.

If desired, they could also send an explanation of why the bill has what it has, which is found at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/please-encourage-your-state-to-pass-this-bill/ and/or a letter to lawmakers which explains why this issue is so critical (which is found at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/state-legislatorswhy-this-is-critical/ .

This is what we need, in order to bring this issue to a satisfactory close, where the rule of law and the Constitution are honored and obeyed. We CAN hold our government accountable even when law enforcement, the media, and the courts refuse to do so.

Power to the people!

Let’s roll.


25 posted on 01/26/2011 1:19:11 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Jemian

I emailed it to everyone because it was on Drudge and thought it must be true. Now the reporter is denying the conversation? WoW!


26 posted on 01/26/2011 1:19:26 PM PST by classified
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To: butterdezillion

This was a trial Balloon, and Evans apparently didn’t know just how big a deal it was, or just what a huge reaction it would cause.

In a real sense I do not care how hard or fast Evans backtracks. It has kept the spotlight on a GLARING fact, Obama does not have a Long Form Birth Certificate. The videos on Youtube are going Viral. A LOT of people are seeing it now for the first time for the DAMN serious issue it is!

That right there is priceless, the focusing of public attention... I consider it good all the way around.


27 posted on 01/26/2011 1:19:33 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: pissant
A group of conspiracy theorists known as "birthers" have long claimed that

You sure this is a FOX link? - reads like Huffington.....

28 posted on 01/26/2011 1:21:03 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Danae

What a lot of leftists will deny & oppose is that there is value in making sure that anyone elected president is an AMERICAN, with all that implies, values, allegiance, heritage, etc.

Leftists actually probably would prefer someone with “other” values and allegiances.


29 posted on 01/26/2011 1:21:17 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: chopperman

“The real news is that this is being reported on Fox.”

Is it really?

Wow.

The spotlight is on now for sure!


30 posted on 01/26/2011 1:22:16 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: pissant

The Arizona bill brings up the issue of dual citizenship and would thus force the courts to rule on the definition of “natural born citizen”.

One possible snag might be the discretion that the SOS has, to decide whether the documents “prove” what they’re supposed to prove. We know that George Soros had a project to get communists elected as SOS in as many states as possible. So that’s a vulnerability of AZ’s bill.


31 posted on 01/26/2011 1:22:34 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...
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Check out ALOHA RONNIE's important comment once more confirming what we've read about Hawaiian birth certificates in the 1960's.

He was there, - a witness to History.

NB: see his tagline, too.

32 posted on 01/26/2011 1:22:48 PM PST by LucyT
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To: butterdezillion

Arizona is in the process of passing an 2012 eligibility law. Will they include transaction logs in this bill?
The news is on Drudge about the law being passed.


33 posted on 01/26/2011 1:23:35 PM PST by classified
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To: butterdezillion

Actually- I think in the interview Evans was referencing two separate conversations. The first one about T-ball etc was when Evans interviewed Abercrombie during the inauguration. The second one- where he alluded to talking to Abercrombie about not being able to find the long-form was recent- in the last several days since Abercrombie said basically that he couldn’t find it.


34 posted on 01/26/2011 1:25:25 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MrB

Of course they will. They have been trying to break the Constitution for generations now. The Constitution thwarts their desire for socialized everything with them in control of who gets what.

Obama was “The One” not because he is black, because he isn;t black, he is mostly white a little black, and all the rest is ARAB. Obama was “The One” because he is Unconstitutional, they know it, and because of his presense at the head of government, means the Constitution no longer applies as long as he continues his usurpation.

Why do you think they immediately moved to pass as much unconstitutional legislation as they could? Because they could, and they knew it.

Obama needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY.


35 posted on 01/26/2011 1:27:10 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: butterdezillion

But we see that AberCrombie has not clarified his friend Mike Evans or the newspapers that Obama does not have a Hawaiian birth certificate. Evans still believes there is no Obama BC. He also said in the Boyles interview that Abercrombie was going to “Torpedo the Birthers.”

And we hear that Abercrummie is hiding behind his press secretary.


36 posted on 01/26/2011 1:31:18 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Danae

The one thing I fear, though, is that the attention is prepping the country to see a brand-new forged document - in a Lucy/Charlie Brown football type scenario.

And they could totally get away with it, unless the transaction logs are required to be disclosed. My suspicion is that there will be a large outcry and then they will produce a forgery that has a HDOH seal on it.

But they won’t do that if there’s a state that will have to see the transaction log for both the birth certificate and the citizenship records such as passport (which we know has already been breached; the DOS has an investigative report on what happened).

What happens from here on out depends on whether we are willing to let them get away with showing a forgery - like the general public was willing to let Obama get away with posting what the HDOH has indirectly confirmed is a forgery.

I believe the original news articles were prepping the country for a scenario where Abercrombie would present a birth certificate and then the “birthers” would claim it was forged - because the article said that it’s crazy to present more evidence because the evidence will never be good enough for conspiracy wackos.

So you see, they’re trying to put us in check mate - where they produce a forgery but have already poisoned the mind of the public against ever wondering whether it’s authentic.

Another project that should be going on the same time as the state eligibility bills is an investigation of the Kapiolani Hospital letter from Obama. Definitely suspicious stuff there, and Abercrombie’s role in that should be investigated.


37 posted on 01/26/2011 1:33:02 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I was thinking about you recently. Hope all is well :-)


38 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:09 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: businessprofessor; LucyT

Lucy, this is the second time I’ve read today that Evans “misspoke” and didn’t really talk to Abercrombie. I can’t listen to the link I’ve seen here and there with (Cashill??) talking with Evans when Evans said this because my comp is being “funny”.

Is busprof correct? Evans is now denying he spoke with Abercrombie at all? This is nuts.

If this is what he is now saying, he must have gotten a phone call or two.


39 posted on 01/26/2011 1:40:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: pissant

Why are they calling me a Conspiracy theorist.

I am a seeker of truth.

Why should the truth be hidden.

The truth of his college entrance did he get fundeds as an alien?
The truth of his Social Security cards or cards.
The truth of his birth
The truth of his passport

Is it wrong to seek the truth?

Call me a truther Not a Conspiracy theorist.I seek the truth. Every American should be seeking the truth.


40 posted on 01/26/2011 1:42:24 PM PST by Venturer
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To: butterdezillion
So you see, they’re trying to put us in check mate - where they produce a forgery but have already poisoned the mind of the public against ever wondering whether it’s authentic.

The risk is very high for them if they try to pass off forgeries to states who require Obama to get on election ballots. The scrutiny level is going to be off the charts. If they get caught, big time jail sentences would follow for the Obama administration.

41 posted on 01/26/2011 1:43:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: classified

Wait a minute. If this conversation never took place, then what did I transcribe?


42 posted on 01/26/2011 1:43:33 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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To: butterdezillion

The Flathead Beacon has a story today about a bill in Montana to require proper documentation to get on their ballots.

http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/montana_lawmaker_introduces_birther_bill/21581/


43 posted on 01/26/2011 1:44:57 PM PST by edge919
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To: MagnoliaB

The reason why a birth certificate matters is to prosecute all the fraud that has been committed by legions of obstructionist who conspired with Obama in this Mother of All Deceptions. They need to pay for their deliberate criminal acts.


44 posted on 01/26/2011 1:46:25 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

Or as Colonel Pickering in MY FAIR LADY might have said:
“Well, I’m dashed!”


45 posted on 01/26/2011 1:49:19 PM PST by Tucker39 (Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:)
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To: Jemian

I think you may have meant for your post to be for someone else on this thread. Another poster may have said that this coversation never took place, but not me. I heard Evans say it clearly on You-tube.


46 posted on 01/26/2011 1:50:04 PM PST by classified
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To: classified

You’re probably right. I have a cold and am not feeling at all well. Posting with a stuffed up head is never good.


47 posted on 01/26/2011 1:51:21 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle! We are the champions!)
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To: butterdezillion
You are forgetting one thing. Until they get rid of the real one and any possible certified copies of the real one that out there, a phony one is a ticket to the slammer
48 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:39 PM PST by iontheball
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To: butterdezillion

I have to agree. This is why the whole darned file needs to be released. But Obama will resign I believe before that happens.

The Youtube video has gone Viral, its almost 93 thousand views, and Evans is spinning and backtracking as fast as he can. But the cat is out of the bag now, and the spotlight is on and hot. The MORE public attention this receives, the HARDER it will be for OholyO to duck it. The pressure will mount and something will have to give. What that will be is hard to say.


49 posted on 01/26/2011 1:54:07 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: iontheball

Starting with Nancy Pelosi, the person most responsible for Obama getting the DNC Nomination. She certified Obama FOR the state of Hawaii, that right there is illegal and unconstitutional.


50 posted on 01/26/2011 1:56:01 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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