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Charles Manson family member who admitted stabbing heiress on his orders is denied parole
Daily Mail ^ | 4:49 PM on 21st January 2011 | By Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/26/2011 1:05:53 PM PST by Niuhuru

A Charles Manson follower has been ordered to remain in prison after parole board officials rejected her claim she was a changed woman.

The two-member panel said the viciousness and notoriety of Patricia Krenwinkel's crimes outweighed her efforts at rehabilitation behind bars.

Krenwinkel, now 63, wept and apologised during the hearing, but officials said the deaths of seven people in the 1969 Tate-LaBianca murders 'remained relevant'.

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KEYWORDS: 1969; actress; crime; crimes; death; follower; kill; killer; killing; krenwinkel; manson; mansonfamily; murder; murders; notoriety; officials; patriciakrenwinkel; people; prison; rehabilitation; serialkiller; sharontate; stabbing; viciousness
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Why bother? I would be more worried about my soul than freedom.
1 posted on 01/26/2011 1:05:57 PM PST by Niuhuru
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To: Niuhuru

I wonder if she has a cell phone like Charlie does.


2 posted on 01/26/2011 1:06:41 PM PST by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: Niuhuru
I would be more worried about my soul than freedom.

That's because you have your freedom.

3 posted on 01/26/2011 1:07:04 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Niuhuru

Bitch shoulda been fried LONG ago(thanks Rose Bird)!


4 posted on 01/26/2011 1:07:06 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Glenn

And I have a soul.


5 posted on 01/26/2011 1:08:07 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: US Navy Vet

If I ahd had my way, automatic appeals would last ten months instead of years. Then throw the switch. If the evidence is CAST IRON, then I would schedule the execution for a maximum of one month.


6 posted on 01/26/2011 1:09:02 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru
Since we didn't have the decency to execute these MFers when we should have, the very least a civilized society must do, if its claim to promote justice is to be taken seriously, is keep every one of them in maximum security until they die.
7 posted on 01/26/2011 1:10:28 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Niuhuru

One of Manson’s text messages they found was: “is it just me or is Obama an idiot?”


8 posted on 01/26/2011 1:11:31 PM PST by tsowellfan
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To: Niuhuru

Krenwinkel then

Krenwinkel today


9 posted on 01/26/2011 1:13:21 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: tsowellfan

I wonder what Manson thinks of all the race rhetoric that was happening until now? He must have been freaking out, since Helter Skelter was his main goal, ie., race war.


10 posted on 01/26/2011 1:14:10 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Exactly. I am SICK of so many thugs getting out on parole and then killing again. Decent law abiding citizens desreve to move freely about, not scummy murders like Krenwinkle.


11 posted on 01/26/2011 1:15:19 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru
She appears to be a different person today, but as the panel said, the sheer viciousness and cruelty of the murders “remain relevant.”
12 posted on 01/26/2011 1:18:06 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: COBOL2Java

Prison life wiped that smirk off her face didn’t it?


13 posted on 01/26/2011 1:18:58 PM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: Gen. Burkhalter

“I wonder if she has a cell phone like Charlie does.”

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I wonder if she has been allowed ongoing, routine conjugal visits over decades like the REAL monster of those two horrific LA nights, little Tex Watson.


14 posted on 01/26/2011 1:19:02 PM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: COBOL2Java

As teh Tucson shooter amply demonstrated, some people NEED to be locked up and kept in a maximum security situation. People like Krenwinkle HAD to have had a predisposition to killing and Manson, out of twenty-five people, chose Krenwinkle, Atkins, and Van-Houten to participate, along with Tex Watson. Manson KNEW them and they had to have ahd the sick ability to attack and kill someone they had no logical grudge against and eight months pregnant to boot.


15 posted on 01/26/2011 1:20:18 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: DCBryan1

Yeah, it did. Deserved; stupid spoiled brats.


16 posted on 01/26/2011 1:22:59 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: EyeGuy

For the life of me, I will never know what turned such a successful guy into a murderer. Had ot be already there, but it certainly puts a lie to most maniacs being geeks in school.


17 posted on 01/26/2011 1:23:55 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Same slouch.


18 posted on 01/26/2011 1:24:00 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: EyeGuy

Not likely. Who on earth would want to be left alone iwht that woman?


19 posted on 01/26/2011 1:25:29 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

OMG..You REALLY think this woman is going to kill again if she’s let out? really?


20 posted on 01/26/2011 1:26:01 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Niuhuru
From Wikipedia:
Krenwinkel dragged coffee heiress Abigail Folger from her bedroom to the living room, fought with her, and stabbed her. When Folger tried to escape following the first round of stabbing, Krenwinkel was said to have chased Folger as she ran outside screaming. According to Krenwinkel, she pinned Folger to the ground and further stabbed her; the victim pleaded with her to stop by saying, "I'm already dead". Krenwinkel continued to stab her so brutally that Folger's white nightgown is reported to have appeared red to police investigators the following day. While stabbing Folger, Krenwinke; called to Watson, who also stabbed Folger. During her trial, Krenwinkel was quoted as saying, "I stabbed her and I kept stabbing her." When asked how it felt, Krenwinkel replied: "Nothing, I mean, what is there to describe? It was just there, and it was right."

Abigail Folger (August 11, 1943 – August 9, 1969)


21 posted on 01/26/2011 1:30:29 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Hildy

honestly, if the conditions are right and she hooks up wiht the right ‘leader.’ Depends on the trigger and society should not walk on tiptoes worrying about triggering her killer instinct.


22 posted on 01/26/2011 1:32:28 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Hildy

“OMG..You REALLY think this woman is going to kill again if she’s let out? really?”

This isn’t some average “granny,” honey. She lost her right to the presumption of innocence, long ago. Now, she gets the appropriate presumption of guilt.

Do you have some reason to assume she wouldn’t drop the hammer on some innocent soul should she be set free? Or are you just sympathetic to elderly cold-blooded murderers?


23 posted on 01/26/2011 1:32:32 PM PST by RavenATB ("Destroy the family and you destroy the country!" ~Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Hildy

I don’t necessarily believe that she would not harm anyone if released. However, I believe she deserves jail for life since the death penalty was assessed.


24 posted on 01/26/2011 1:34:07 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: Hildy
OMG..You REALLY think this woman is going to kill again if she’s let out? really?

It's called punishment that fits the crime...

25 posted on 01/26/2011 1:34:09 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: COBOL2Java

She looks like the dude who runs the paint counter down at the hardware store.


26 posted on 01/26/2011 1:34:44 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: DCBryan1
Prison life wiped that smirk off her face didn’t it?

150 amps of DC running through her body would have wiped it off too, a lot sooner and cheaper.

27 posted on 01/26/2011 1:34:52 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Hildy

“You REALLY think this woman is going to kill again if she’s let out?”

Very doubtful that she would, but that’s not the point. Prison is not about rehabilitation but punishment (even though most libs seem to think we are trying to rehabilitate them, prison is the last place that would happen, if anything they come out worse than they went in). What she and the other Manson freaks did deserved death or at the least that they never get let out of jail. Also, given that “elites” were killed rather than ordinary people they had to make an example of them so I don’t expect any of them to be let out.


28 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:26 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: Niuhuru

“For the life of me, I will never know what turned such a successful guy into a murderer.”

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Aside from the obvious derangement, on that particular night it was largely amphetamines, and I suspect, to insure continued access to Manson’s harem.


29 posted on 01/26/2011 1:42:33 PM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

My first thought when I saw her picture is that prison has given her a certain “butch” quality.


30 posted on 01/26/2011 1:45:36 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: COBOL2Java

I shouldn’t say things like this.But she even young looks like a man.


31 posted on 01/26/2011 1:49:09 PM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Longtime Lady Lurker)
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To: colorado tanker

The cruelty of the murders DO “remain relevant.” Yes, they do. I’m sure the mother and “to be grandmother” of the pregnant victim and the unborn baby” consider those murders to still be relevant as well and always will be. Tell krenwrinkle to apologize to God for what she did and not to the public. She killed in a vicious and ugly manner and was part of that whole demonic event. No, she is only different today because she is TIRED of sitting in a jail. At least she can see family members and talk to them. The victims of this crazed outfit can not do that nor can their families. She is where she belongs plain and simple. God forgive her as only HE can.


32 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:12 PM PST by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh...Man of all the years. Trust Rush he stands for America.)
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To: Steely Tom

I am pleased as punch... would have been much better though to have introduced her to “old sparky”...


33 posted on 01/26/2011 1:54:02 PM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: Chuzzlewit; Steely Tom

In the Golden State, it would have been, not The Chair, but the bright green gas chamber at San Quentin. In a sane world, the pellets would have dropped no later than August, 1970.


34 posted on 01/26/2011 2:00:40 PM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: Niuhuru

The entire Manson Clan should have been executed years ago. They are all crazy as can be. Bernadette Dorn—NObama’s Chicago pal thinks the Mansons were wonderful.


35 posted on 01/26/2011 2:05:04 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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TWO member panel==a parole board?

Since when? I thought it was 5 or seven.


36 posted on 01/26/2011 2:06:00 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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In the Golden State, it would have been, not The Chair, but the bright green gas chamber at San Quentin. In a sane world, the pellets would have dropped no later than August, 1970.

Yeah. I wonder if the smirk might have faded when she heard the fans turn off, and then that cheerful fizzing sound. The invited guests could have enjoyed the sight of that disappearing smirk. I don't think they got too many observers for electrocutions anyway.

37 posted on 01/26/2011 2:07:35 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: EyeGuy; Gen. Burkhalter; Chuzzlewit; Steely Tom

Better yet, I would have been better if Manson just stayed in Ohio, where he was born and raised.


38 posted on 01/26/2011 2:10:04 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: COBOL2Java
Krenwinkel continued to stab her so brutally that Folger's white nightgown is reported to have appeared red to police investigators the following day.

Wouldn't blood, exposed to air for a day, turn black?

39 posted on 01/26/2011 2:10:31 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: dragnet2

And Tex Watson was from Texas.

We get it. They weren’t native born Californians.....


40 posted on 01/26/2011 2:12:42 PM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: US Navy Vet
Bitch shoulda been fried LONG ago(thanks Rose Bird)

Judge Rose Bird...Like Charlie Manson, not from California, and raised and educated on the east coast, like Boxer and Pelosi.

It's unfortunate CA has been infected with so many nasty people from other states.

41 posted on 01/26/2011 2:15:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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And Tex Watson was from Texas.

Yep! You got it.

42 posted on 01/26/2011 2:16:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: EyeGuy

By the way, Tex Watson was from Texas I believe is also up for parole this year.


43 posted on 01/26/2011 2:18:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: EyeGuy

If it makes ya feel better, I believe some of the teenage girls that were unfortunate enough to come under Manson’s influence, were from CA...


44 posted on 01/26/2011 2:21:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Better yet, I would have been better if Manson just stayed in Ohio, where he was born and raised.

I spent a little less than one delightful year in California, as a small child. I've been back only once in the 50 years since.

And I can tell you that, had it been in my power to do so, I would have kept all the people who've ruined California out of it.

45 posted on 01/26/2011 2:28:04 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: dragnet2

It doesn’t make me feel better or worse, as I have long been a big Californiaphile.

The obvious allure of the magnificent Golden State draws people of all types from across the country; sometimes the very disturbed, but also the very productive, talented and inventive.

The afflictions of California are an American problem, and we should ALL be pulling for its recovery, and return to its former glory.


46 posted on 01/26/2011 2:28:07 PM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: cubreporter

I am still shocked by these crimes all these years later. I can’t imagine the cruelty of hearing a mother-to-be bargain for her baby’s life by offering to be kidnapped and killed after giving birth, and then stabbing her to death in cold blood anyway.


47 posted on 01/26/2011 2:28:48 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: dragnet2

And it’s unfortunate that California and it’s attitudes and Lifestyles have infected alot of other states.


48 posted on 01/26/2011 2:31:20 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Steely Tom; EyeGuy
Fortunately, just as many good crossed into CA and made it home, as did the bad...

As I've told others before, California has the very best and worse of everything here...

49 posted on 01/26/2011 2:31:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: US Navy Vet
And it’s unfortunate that California and it’s attitudes and Lifestyles have infected alot of other states.

The rotten and leftist setting sail out of CA is a good thing for California...

Lets hope that trend continues!

50 posted on 01/26/2011 2:35:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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