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Psychologist to educators: Failure of black males to graduate not your fault
Palm Beach Post ^ | January 25, 2011 | Jason Schultz

Posted on 01/26/2011 1:33:23 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

A noted psychologist told a gathering of teachers, school officials and parents that the reason why black males are struggling to graduate high school has very little to do with the failures of teachers.

It has much more to do with the failures of modern society, he said.

"I'm unwilling to stand up here and pretend that you are somehow responsible for their failures," Na'im Akbar told teachers Tuesday at a symposium on graduation rates at Atlantic Community High School. The symposium was the second meeting of a task force started by the school district to generate ideas to improve graduation rates, particularly among black males.

The graduation rate for Palm Beach County black males is about 65 percent, far behind the nearly 82 percent districtwide rate, according to a letter from Superintendent Art Johnson in the symposium program.

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Liberalism is to blame.
1 posted on 01/26/2011 1:33:27 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Na’im Akbar”, Amish again... so sad when the Amish go bad...


2 posted on 01/26/2011 1:34:40 PM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: ConservativeStatement

ahh, the soft bigotry of low expectations...


3 posted on 01/26/2011 1:34:47 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: ConservativeStatement

I think there is blame to go around, but people need to take ownership for their own failures, mainly because they are the ones who are most impacted by them. Pointing fingers at someone else for your failure to graduate from high school doesn’t get you a high school degree. It might make you feel a little better, but you still are a high school dropout.


4 posted on 01/26/2011 1:36:35 PM PST by brytlea
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To: ConservativeStatement

Bush’s fault

Oooooopss.....sorry

Palin’s fault


5 posted on 01/26/2011 1:36:55 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Hard to improve when all your peers in the ‘hood say that any attempt to educationally improve yourself is “Acting White”.


6 posted on 01/26/2011 1:37:18 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Na’im Akbar” whatever happened to normal names like Leroy or Willie?


7 posted on 01/26/2011 1:37:57 PM PST by since1868 (I miss Pres Bush)
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To: Sioux-san

“Acting White” by Ron Christie a powerful and sad book about the failure of the black community.


8 posted on 01/26/2011 1:38:11 PM PST by nj patriot (How is that hope and change working out?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
'It has much more to do with the failures of modern society, he said.'

No, failure falls at the feet of their baby mommas and daddies.

9 posted on 01/26/2011 1:38:20 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It isn’t teachers that are the reason blacks do not graduate....it is the black culture that considers it “being white” to get an education.

When your culture is as advanced as farm animals...its no wonder the graduation rate is so low.


10 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:35 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (NAFTA, WTO, UN, IMF, USAID, World Bank, are all Statist organizations)
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To: AppyPappy
Bush’s fault
Oooooopss.....sorry
Palin’s fault

To be fair, there's plenty of blame to go around. It's Michelle Bachmann's fault too!

11 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:39 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Sioux-san

It is the brilliant leadership by example of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and their followers that are responsible for the factoid there are more 18-14 black males in jail than there are in college. Maybe prison trade schools might help the numbers....


12 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:51 PM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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To: ConservativeStatement

How about the failure of everyone to hold them responsible for their own lives and the direction those lives take.


13 posted on 01/26/2011 1:39:51 PM PST by marsh2
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To: ConservativeStatement

“It has much more to do with the failures of modern society”

...like schools too hard? Not enough money? Need new computers? Lunch isn’t nutritious enough? #2 pencils are too expensive?


14 posted on 01/26/2011 1:40:18 PM PST by albie
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To: since1868

He was probably born a Leroy or Willie,

but then changed his name when he “got religion”.


15 posted on 01/26/2011 1:41:25 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: marsh2

There you go!....Injecting common sense!.....Common sense is not P.C.!


16 posted on 01/26/2011 1:41:41 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: NoGrayZone

Yes, and uphill a little bit further is the REASON there even ARE “baby mamas” and “baby daddies”.

The left’s welfare system.


17 posted on 01/26/2011 1:42:15 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Society is to blame= we need more taxpayer $$$$


18 posted on 01/26/2011 1:42:24 PM PST by CarWashMan
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To: ConservativeStatement

How about failure of the individual to take advantage of the opportunity that they have been given.


19 posted on 01/26/2011 1:42:44 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: ConservativeStatement

They are only suited for use as abd, Mr Akbar?

No racism here, eh?


20 posted on 01/26/2011 1:43:42 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 736 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I believe failure of the family and parenting is core the of problem. Their dads? Wherever they are, never hooked up with the American social contract thus guaranteeing another generation of common and uncommon criminal garden slugs.

Those “men” need to spine up, take some responsibility, get in the system and offer their kids a chance. It all starts with getting the kids educated.

Its not the system. Its not the educators. Its the failures in family and related values.


21 posted on 01/26/2011 1:45:33 PM PST by himno hero
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To: ConservativeStatement

Probably has nothing to do with the failures of the sstudents, themselves, their reluctance to “act white” and actually study , for example


22 posted on 01/26/2011 1:46:43 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I’d call it a systemic failure when kids are being passed from grade to grade neither knowing that two and two is four, nor that there is a correct way to form letters, nor (most grievously in my opinion) that you can’t read by guessing from the picture.


23 posted on 01/26/2011 1:47:01 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: null and void

Didn’t you ever notice? Islam cannot be racist. It does not matter what anyone of Islamic faith says or does.


24 posted on 01/26/2011 1:47:50 PM PST by blackdog
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To: blackdog

you know he’s a muslim how? did he tell you?


25 posted on 01/26/2011 1:49:34 PM PST by rahbert
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To: ConservativeStatement
What he actually says, for those who don't read articles, is that the responsibility begins with single parents and poor parenting, and includes allowing kids to get their role models from Black Entertainment Television. He also blames the crack generation of the '80's, which is quite a stretch.
26 posted on 01/26/2011 1:49:59 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: blackdog

No kidding.

(Saaayyyyyy, isn’t your screen name racist, hmmmmm?)


27 posted on 01/26/2011 1:50:18 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 736 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Liberalism is to blame.

To a large extent you're right. LBJ's Great Society destroyed the Black family. Black women "married" the federal government to get high welfare and AFDC benefits they couldn't get while married. Male heads of families became a liability, leaving young Black males fatherless and adrift.

I think an essential part of the problem is also cultural. Watch a few episodes of "The First 48" and "Hardcore Pawn" to see what I mean. The shows are very educational as well as being profoundly depressing.

28 posted on 01/26/2011 1:50:43 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: ConservativeStatement

“It has much more to do with the failures of modern society, he said.”

Yep, the villivication of success and the celebration of entitlements. I do agree, the modern society that celebrates the lowest common denominator has victimized an entire culture. Of course, that is exactly how the liberals want society to evolve, so we should just spend more on school administrators.


29 posted on 01/26/2011 1:50:56 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: marsh2
How about the failure of everyone to hold them responsible for their own lives and the direction those lives take.

bears, bears, bears, bears, bears, bears, bears ... repeating

30 posted on 01/26/2011 1:50:58 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: MrB
'The left’s welfare system.'

You are exactly right. However, this is no longer a black/white thing. I believe they started with the blacks and now is seeping into all other races as well.

The left needs to be put down. No, I don't mean euthanized, more like neutered.

31 posted on 01/26/2011 1:51:29 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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32 posted on 01/26/2011 1:51:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ConservativeStatement
It has much more to do with the failures of modern society

The libtard behaviorist attack on Christianity starts with blaming society for any individual's problems. Next, it is the fault of Christianity for the failure of society. Next, society has to be changed by getting rid of Christianity. And government has to be made bigger and more powerful to do that.

33 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:12 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Akbar said children are “miseducated” before they even get to the classroom because they now get their socialization and image of how they are supposed to act from television instead of their families and communities.

“[Black Entertainment Television] becomes the model of how you want to be,” Akbar said. “You want to be a clown. You want to be a pimp.”

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ouch, BET...maybe O[WN]prah will save the day?

Does this mean Cosby is vindicated?
http://bossip.com/264466/bill-cosby-calls-black-people-out-again-at-2010-essence-festival/

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/bcill.htm

Maybe the NAACP can apologize to Cosby for doing the right thing and speaking the truth?


34 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:23 PM PST by Irenic
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To: ConservativeStatement

“The graduation rate for Palm Beach County black males is about 65 percent”

That’s quite high compared to the 25 percent graduation rate in Detroit.


35 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:25 PM PST by hout8475
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To: NoGrayZone

Neutered - yes.

They not only need to be removed from power,
but we need to remove the positions of power.

What we’ve been doing is a losing proposition - trying to get “our folks”, or “good people” into positions of power, positions with TOO much power for any person to occupy,
out of self defense. Supposedly having “one of ours” in one of these positions keeps “one of them” out. Better to not have the position exist.


36 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:53 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: taxcontrol

80 percent of success is just showing up. They can’t educate if the students aren’t there.


37 posted on 01/26/2011 1:53:53 PM PST by Reeses
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To: ConservativeStatement
IMHO, the disintegration of the African-American family is much more at fault than the teachers. Too many out of wedlock births and fatherless families. You can predict how many more uneducated, unemployed and even jailed adults grew up in those broken homes. And that goes for all races, but the number of these families in the black community is much higher.

Daniel Patrick Moynihan saw this coming in the Nixon Administration back in the 60's.

38 posted on 01/26/2011 1:54:08 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ConservativeStatement

Crack mothers and grandmothers is certainly a factor but that combined with the gangbangers / dope dealers as the only males with prestige in the neighborhood is a major problem. Sadly, only the neighborhood can reform itself. No amount of outside pressure will work if they don’t want to change.


39 posted on 01/26/2011 1:54:18 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: ConservativeStatement

The K12 curriculum in most places has gotten so ridiculously dumbed down that anyone who doesn’t graduate has no one to blame but himself.


40 posted on 01/26/2011 2:00:10 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ConservativeStatement
He pointed to poverty and the high number of black children born to young, single mothers as larger causes for graduation rate problems.

And did the speaker make any connection between the "high number of black children born to young, single mothers" and the "poverty" mentioned earlier in the sentence?

41 posted on 01/26/2011 2:01:18 PM PST by Will88
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“It has much more to do with the failures of modern society, he said. “

A failing black kid or ANY other kid,

is NOT MY FAULT!

I am NOT raising OTHER KIDS!

It is NOT my place or role to RAISE OTHER KIDS.

It is up the PARENT(s) of those kid, to RAISE THEM.

It is up to the PARENT(s) to make sure they are learning.

Is it any wonder, people view this as CHILD ABUSE?

It is the MOM taking charge of the education.

It is the BLACK and HISPANIC culture that does NOT value learning. This “value” trickles down to the kids. Kids KNOW there are LOW expecations in place for them because of THEIR RACE. They PLAY THE RACE card and LIEBRAL RACISTS LOVE IT.

Explain why the CHINESE RACE excells and black hispanics don’t. The CULTURE and PRIORITIES are different.

You may find these articles of interest.

Wall Street Journal - the original article that kicked up the storm:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html

The Economist

http://www.economist.com/node/17959516

Time Magazine (...lets add some liberal spin)
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2043313,00.html


42 posted on 01/26/2011 2:02:44 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ConservativeStatement
We just need to elect a black president to be the role model they so desperately need to prosper and to show the world that America's whites aren't racist and holding them back.

Never mind, that didn't work out so great.

43 posted on 01/26/2011 2:03:39 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Republicans may have helped drive the economy into the ditch, but Obama is driving it off the cliff.)
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To: nj patriot

Well, not even whites are acting white any more. Family structure has fallen apart. We see how Asian families manage to succeed in our schools while Hispanics, blacks and whites fail. The culture simply does not reward academic high achievers. So ironically California colleagues discriminate on racial grounds to keep Asians from monopolizing the places in the elite colleges.


44 posted on 01/26/2011 2:03:46 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I think their fathers are mostly to blame.


45 posted on 01/26/2011 2:03:46 PM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: JimSEA

Sharply reducing welfare would have a huge effect.

We could exert effective outside pressure tomorrow simply by freezing all unemployment benefit (whatever you call it over there) until 2050.

Call it the “Keeping It Real” Initiative.


46 posted on 01/26/2011 2:04:07 PM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: AmusedBystander
We just need to elect a black president to be the role model

We forgot to make sure he wasn't a marxist.

47 posted on 01/26/2011 2:06:28 PM PST by paulycy (Liberals suck all the joy out of America. Let's make them stop.)
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To: since1868

““Na’im Akbar” whatever happened to normal names like Leroy or Willie?”

That’s another part of the problem.

They don’t assimulate and don’t want to be like “whites”. It’s part of their culture to REJECT white “values” such as education.

You can throw as much money as you want at blacks and it won’t make ANY difference UNLESS they WANT TO LEARN. Apparently they do NOT want to learn. It is not a priority. It also has NOTHING TO DO WITH ECONOMIC STATUS.

Candi Rice was POOR and black. She EARNED her education and made it a priority because it was a priority with her PARENSTS. Her PARENTS encouraged her to do BETTER and she did.


48 posted on 01/26/2011 2:06:40 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: ConservativeStatement
It has much more to do with the failures of modern society, he said.

Bull hockey, it's the failure of the parents.

49 posted on 01/26/2011 2:07:21 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Liberalism is to blame.

Exactly. It turned black males into a non-necessary part of the family. They mooched off of the woman on welfare. Mom with no full-time employed dad around equals young black males with no discipline and no goals and no positive role model. Black families were more solid in the 50s. Before the libs "saved" them with all their programs.

50 posted on 01/26/2011 2:13:48 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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