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Gibbs: U.S. supports Egyptians' right to demonstrate
The Washington Times ^ | January 26, 2011 | Ashish Kumar Sen

Posted on 01/27/2011 3:09:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The Obama administration on Wednesday voiced its support for the Egyptian people’s rights to freedom of expression and assembly, as a second day of protests in Cairo saw police using tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse stone-throwing demonstrators.

Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs declined to say whether the U.S. still supports Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, reiterating only that Egypt remains a “strong ally.”

“We have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and free of corruption; and the freedom to live as you choose. These are human rights, and we support them everywhere,” Mr. Gibbs said.

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Protesters are planning another massive demonstration after prayers on Friday. Their anger has been stoked by rampant poverty, rising prices and growing unemployment.

The Obama administration is closely monitoring developments in Egypt.

This is an "important time for the government to demonstrate its responsiveness to the people of Egypt in recognizing those universal rights," Mr. Gibbs said, adding that the U.S. expects Egyptian authorities to respond peacefully.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: demonstration; dnc4rioters; egypt; egyptriots; hisnibs; moslembrotherhood; obama4rioters; protest; riots; robertgibbs
Demonstrate or riot? Is there a distinction for Gibbs?


Photo: AP

Egyptian anti-government activists throw stones at riot police during clashes in Cairo, Egypt, Jan. 26, 2011.

1 posted on 01/27/2011 3:09:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Carter Redux.
We have seen the result, imagine what this
means for the next 20 years.


2 posted on 01/27/2011 3:13:34 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

But not the Tea Party.


3 posted on 01/27/2011 3:18:30 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Demonstrate or riot? Is there a distinction for Gibbs? “

If you had a true dictator complete with secret police, you’d riot too.


4 posted on 01/27/2011 3:22:16 AM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obummer supports rock-throwing rioters in Egypt but can’t stand peaceable assemblies of the Tea Partiy in his own country. Now I know he’s related to Janus, the two-faced god of the Romans.


5 posted on 01/27/2011 3:24:54 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: tet68

There are certainly problems with Egypt under Mubarak. Many are problems common to any Islamic country, since an Islamic culture by its nature is incapable of being free and productive either politically or economically. And some are problems with his very rigid regime.

The biggest problem, however, is that it almost had to be rigid and oppressive in order to prevent Islamist forces from taking over. I suspect that this current “uprising” is not going to result in a flowering of democracy and capitalism, but in a takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood or some other fundamentalist Islamic group, just as it did in Iran.

This is very dangerous; for one thing, Egypt is much better armed than Iran was in 1979, and because of their victories over the Great Satan and coupled with Obama’s complaisant attitude, the Islamists are much bolder and more aggressive than they were then.


6 posted on 01/27/2011 3:27:32 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

Iran redux. Gibbs seems to think these are
Egyptian Code Pinkers, the same mistake Carter
made. Bad move, one we and Israel will pay for
for a long time.


7 posted on 01/27/2011 3:32:08 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“The Obama administration on Wednesday voiced its support for the Egyptian people’s rights to freedom of expression and assembly”

THIS is beyond insane. The muslim brotherhood is behind these protests, and if Egypt falls, there will be war the likes of which the US has not seen since WWII. The Middle East will blow like a whale with heartburn and all the king’s horses will not be able to put it back together again.
I have not forgotten the “special invitation” issued to the muslim brotherhood by obama himself, and the “personal meeting” when he was in Cairo.


8 posted on 01/27/2011 3:35:18 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sarah-If she runs, WE will win!)
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To: tet68

I swear to you that if I was the PM of Israel and Mubarak goes down, Aswan follows within TEN seconds.


9 posted on 01/27/2011 3:37:09 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sarah-If she runs, WE will win!)
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t think I’d go that far, however cleaning out
Gaza and declaring a southern border would be
in order. Do the same with the West Bank and
solve both problems.


10 posted on 01/27/2011 3:44:03 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: screaminsunshine
But not the Tea Party.

Or Cubans or Venezuelans or Iranians and especially not the citizens of Arizona.

11 posted on 01/27/2011 4:01:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: tet68

We have the entire middle east burning thanks to O’s brand of ‘intelligent’ diplomacy.

He projected a weakness that has proven deadly for citizens in just about every country on earth.

The world needed a strong America. The jackass in the White House thought that by diminishing America he could build up the islamic world he could not have been more incorrect.

JMO


12 posted on 01/27/2011 4:01:48 AM PST by Carley (IDEOLOGY TRUMPS FACTS IN THE LEFT'S QUEST FOR POWER)
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To: mewykwistmas

The Obama administration seems rather selective in their definition of who is and who isn’t a dictator.


13 posted on 01/27/2011 4:04:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: tet68
Jan 26, 2011Gibbs: Obama will probably talk about gun violence -- later

(excerpt) "I don't doubt that there are a host of issues that didn't receive billing in the State of the Union that will still encompass a decent amount of time inside the administration in 2011," Gibbs said.

As for guns, Gibbs said: "I wouldn't rule out that at some point the president talks about the issues surrounding gun violence. I don't have a timetable or obviously what he would say, but I wouldn't rule that out in the future."..... (end excerpt)

14 posted on 01/27/2011 4:07:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: tet68

Push the pal is to Egypt then seal the border.


15 posted on 01/27/2011 4:26:30 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From the Egyptian gov point of view it is not a protest right question, but US backing in a hard crackdown:
The Eqyptian Army is on standby, near the Suez canal scores were shot dead by security forces, the Muslim Brotherhood is waiting for the right moment to step in.

And Glilbbs talks glibbly about rights, while a woman (Clinton) tells the muslim Egyptians to calm down, and O&M prepare for their nest vacation.

Not only will Egypt fall to jihadis, but will be factor in touching off a four front war against Israel. O&M will return from vacation to send US forces into the fray just before O&M leave for their next vacation - returning from which the magic couple will find the US in crisis, declare a National Emergency, postpone 2012 elections and go on a well deserved vacation.

And so begins another world war...

16 posted on 01/27/2011 4:28:09 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Funny. I don’t remember Obama supporting the Iranians’ right to demonstrate.


17 posted on 01/27/2011 4:35:14 AM PST by Maceman (Obama -- he's as American as nasi goreng)
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To: Maceman
Me either Maceman. In fact they conspicuously didn't support them.
18 posted on 01/27/2011 5:33:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: PIF

So we know (as if we didn’t already) which protests will be supported and which ones the government will deny here at home.


19 posted on 01/27/2011 5:35:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: livius

The problem is that the Islamists are the only ones offering an alternative to the dictators. If there were a third way, a democratic movement, I think a lot of people would get behind it. The key here is a strong personality that people can get behind. They desperately need a Lech Walesa or Vaclav Havel.


20 posted on 01/27/2011 5:40:24 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Obama administration on Wednesday voiced its support for the Egyptian people’s rights to freedom of expression and assembly

VIOLENT assembly. It's what Obomas allies are calling for here.

The Tea parties were too peaceful. They didn't fit the progressive agenda. To the new left (old communists), peace is not the answer.

21 posted on 01/27/2011 5:58:39 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So we know (as if we didn’t already) which protests will be supported and...

which ones the government/media will not even mention here at home.

However, the point is unless the US stands behind a hard crack down (shooting into the crowd with live ammo {or like the Turks in the 60s - use jets dropping napalm, tank and arty fire on the crowds}), then Egyptisn Gov will fall and be replaced by one run by the Muslim Brotherhood.

The time for jabber is over, and now its kill or fall time. The more brutal the repression the more likely the ‘protests’ will end and the government survive. The more ‘kindly’ the response, the more likely the government falling is assured.

This is the muslim Middle East, not part of planet Earth.


22 posted on 01/27/2011 6:07:30 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: livius
coupled with Obama’s complaisant attitude

He's spent the last two years passing out other peoples money to his friends. That's all he's done, and the world is falling apart all around us. I don't know whether he deliberately wants Armageddon ( he thinks he's the 12th Emom? ), or the man is so incompetent, Armageddon will arrive through his ignorance.

(Anyway, his actions do support the Antichrist theory. He "destroys wonderfully.")

23 posted on 01/27/2011 6:10:38 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: livius; All
Very true. The Islamic countries of the Middle East are not going to be free in any case; the best we can hope for is political authoritarianism that is not unduly abusive and that supports a reasonably modern society. Jimmy Carter thought Khomeini would make a better leader for Iran than the Shah because the Ayatollah was a deeply religious man. Boy, did that naive fool Carter learn, and boy, did we all. Bringing full democracy to a backwards country, especially one full of Islamic fanaticism, is likewise a bad idea. You're liable to set up a situation of one man, one vote, once. Good thing Carter, with his foolish human rights program that undermined a number of our (necessarily) hardnosed allies, was unseated by Reagan, a wise realist who understood the need to support some unpleasant authoritarians when the alternative was not freedom, but rather the far greater evil of totalitarianism. Of course, he had at his side the brilliant Jean Kirkpatrick, the author of Dictatorships and Double Standards.
24 posted on 01/27/2011 6:35:28 AM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." -- Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

a few well placed bombs could change
the course of the Nile river,
thus putting Egypt out of business


25 posted on 01/27/2011 7:02:37 AM PST by Talf
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To: FromLori

“Demonstration or riot?” Ping.


26 posted on 01/27/2011 8:08:57 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

While 0bie and Biden the Slow ramble around the country trying to sell their “investment” program, the MidEast erupts. I agree that, just in the case with Carter, 0bama is going to attempt to give this a “benign neglect” approach until it gets so far out of hand the entire region will be in flames. Al-Qaeda has already said they’re behind the rioting in Tunisia. Is there any doubt their handprint is on the tumult in Egypt as well?

A real president would be monitoring this far more closely. But the concept of a “real” president has been absent for two years.


27 posted on 01/27/2011 8:17:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: eater-of-toast
Boy, did that naive fool Carter lea

Actually, judging by his recent, decidedly pro-muslim and anti-Israeli statements, I don't think Carter learned anything at all.

28 posted on 01/27/2011 8:19:45 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Their anger has been stoked by rampant poverty, rising prices and growing unemployment.

Yeah, just like rampant poverty, rising prices and growing unemployment were the "cause" of the attacks on 9/11.

29 posted on 01/27/2011 8:21:12 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey Gibbs, could you say that in a weaker way?!!


30 posted on 01/27/2011 8:32:35 AM PST by my small voice
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To: livius

The sad thing about America’s friends in the region has been their utter callousness for the most part about the emancipation of their people - economically, socially, politically.

The 64Trillion question about this part of the world - are the secular forces strong and numerous enough to combat the propensity of the majority of the population to see Islam as the solution for governance - in Tunisia, I do think so, but it’s a small country with borders predating colonialism and a strong civil society not subject to the retrograde influences of the Mullahs.

Irony alert - Tunisia’s PM was refused asylum by Sarkozy despite the two playing kissypoo a couple of months ago.

So where’s the PM who banned the veil ended up?

Saudi Arabia!
I did see a brief shot of red and white kaffiyeh clad demonstrators - that means Saudi Wahhabi Salafis.

In Egypt, I fear the Muslim Brotherhood is poised for power.

However noble the task of encouraging dissent, as we have seen, Teheran 1979, the “Bolsheviks” can take over from the “Mensheviks”, being better organised and motivated.


31 posted on 01/27/2011 1:00:44 PM PST by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes! Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -America is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks for the ping. What a mess it’s not only Egypt and Tunisia it’s also Yemen, Algeria, Morocco (though Morocco has calmed a bit). Looks like trouble may be starting up again in Pakistan as well 3 American official’s are being charged with murder. That could be enough to set them off.

Thousands rally in Yemen, joining Tunisia and Egypt in anti-government protests

http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/thousands-rally-in-yemen-joining-tunisia-and-egypt-in-anti-government-protests-1.339517?localLinksEnabled=false

“Lahore police chief Aslam Tareen said the American was being questioned by the police and may be charged with both murder and illegally carrying a weapon: a Beretta pistol. The American shot both men after they pointed guns at him at an intersection, Tareen said.

“Diplomatic staff usually enjoy a certain type of immunity, but I am not sure about murder,” he said. “We will consult the Foreign Office and legal advisers in this regard.”

Police officer Atif Meraj later said that a murder case was officially registered against the American, and another case was registered against two other Americans for killing the pedestrian.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iWaI3mhOOu5QV6nIx_MFgKQIf-fw?docId=4cafe6f13f304675a5871278c73063d3

Algerian President Mulls Cabinet Reshuffle After Riots-Sources

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110127-717683.html

“Fitch considers a Tunisian-style uprising unlikely in Morocco in the medium term,” Maria Malas-Mroueh, a director on Fitch’s sovereign team, told an analysts’ conference call.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE70Q1H520110127

You know I don’t know that’s a hard call. On one hand as someone pointed out above obama said nothing when the Iranian’s were demonstrating and dying and we all thought of that as demonstrations. What if things become even worse here and obama becomes even more of a dictator and they started shooting us? Maybe now is the time to return to non intervention. Beside’s with the whole region being a powder keg and us being broke and obama as commander in chief maybe we should concentrate on our own security.

“The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.”
George Washington

“Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none, I deem [one of] the essential principles of our government, and consequently [one of] those which ought to shape its administration.” Thomas Jefferson


32 posted on 01/27/2011 4:03:02 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: ScottinVA

I just meant that Carter got a nasty lesson in Iran. And you’re right, he was fool enough that he didn’t learn anything broader from it regarding the Muslim world or Israel.


33 posted on 01/27/2011 10:42:11 PM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." -- Calvin Coolidge)
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To: eater-of-toast

Absolutely agree. He received the lesson, but he`ll never “get” it.


34 posted on 01/28/2011 2:29:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; screaminsunshine

>> But not the Tea Party.

>> Or Cubans or Venezuelans or Iranians and especially not the citizens of Arizona.

No doubt the first thought the crossed the mind of every
conscientious citizen.


35 posted on 01/28/2011 2:33:41 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: mewykwistmas
If you had a true dictator complete with secret police, you’d riot too.

According to the Vice President, Egypt has no dictator.

36 posted on 01/28/2011 2:33:48 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Maceman
Funny. I don’t remember Obama supporting the Iranians’ right to demonstrate.

DING DING DING !!! WE HAVE A WINNER !!!

37 posted on 01/28/2011 2:34:51 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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