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Going Rogue: Freshman congressman criticizes Bachmann speech
WLS AM ^ | 1-26-11 | John Dempsey

Posted on 01/27/2011 11:28:33 AM PST by bigbob

CHICAGO (WLS) - A Tea Party-backed congressman from the Northwest suburbs is criticizing a leading figure in the Tea Party movement.

Joe Walsh told Roe and Roeper that Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann should not have delivered a Tea Party response to the president's State of the Union address Tuesday night.

Walsh says her message took attention away from the main Republican speech by Congressman Paul Ryan.

"I mean there is no more Tea Party freshman on the planet than myself, but I'll be the first to say, respectfully, Michele had no business making that speech last night,” Walsh said. “I mean Paul Ryan gave the Republican response. We're all Republicans. I think it was a distraction that she did it, and it was just fodder for the media to do as you just said. To try to create this separation within the party."

Walsh was recently sworn in as a freshman congressman replacing Democrat Melissa Bean.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bachmann; joewalsh; teaparty; walsh
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Joe Walsh seems to be a good guy and is entitled to his opinion, so I don't think we should call for the tar and feathers quite yet.

If he's referring to himself, Bachmann, and Ryan when he says "we're all Republicans", fine.

But even when represented by a strong Conservative like Rep. Paul Ryan, he should know that "we" are most definitely NOT "all Republicans"...and that the Republican party is on probation with most of us. Failure to follow the course outlined by Michelle Bachmann will be at their own peril.

1 posted on 01/27/2011 11:28:36 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Well, he’ll be invited on all the talk shows now:MSNBC, “Meet the Press,” “This Week, “ etc.


2 posted on 01/27/2011 11:33:27 AM PST by eCSMaster (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: bigbob

Bachmann was giving a response for a webcast for the Tea Party Express, it wasn’t meant as an official rebuttal. CNN shouldn’t have been airing it.


3 posted on 01/27/2011 11:34:06 AM PST by heysean
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To: bigbob

Ryan’s speech after the SOTU did not impress me, and actually pee’d me off as the wording was Federal Gov solutions oriented at a time I believe the best solutions are in the deconstruction of the Fed back to it’s original design.

I did like Michelle Bachmann’s speech.


4 posted on 01/27/2011 11:34:15 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: bigbob

By the way - since Rep. Walsh’s email system won’t even accept a question from anyone outside his district, could any of my fellow Illini who live in the 8th district drop him a note and ask him “just who do you mean by “we”, Congressman?”

https://walsh.house.gov/contact-me/email-me


5 posted on 01/27/2011 11:35:00 AM PST by bigbob
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To: bigbob

+Did not take him long to drop to his knees.


6 posted on 01/27/2011 11:37:04 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: bigbob
Some of these Republicans better get some smarts. Is is the likes of Michele Bachmann that is their only chance.
7 posted on 01/27/2011 11:37:19 AM PST by Logical me
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To: bigbob

The republican party does not want to understand that the TEA party is NOT an arm of the GOP. This freshman congresscritter needs to take a deep breath and think a little. If GOP loyalty were sufficient, why would the tea party have sprung to life in the first place?


8 posted on 01/27/2011 11:37:34 AM PST by MortMan (I am in no mood to be amused! (Ebenezer Scrooge))
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To: eCSMaster

Another Big City Suburban PUNK-ASS!


9 posted on 01/27/2011 11:39:31 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: bigbob
I liked Bachmann’s comment about buying light-bulbs the best. I just wish she had also mentioned the imaginary SS trust fund paying Seniors QE2 money from the Federal Reserve,
10 posted on 01/27/2011 11:40:11 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: bigbob

Did he ingest too many drugs when he was touring back in the day?
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(Oops, sorry, wrong Joe Walsh. Nevermind!)


11 posted on 01/27/2011 11:41:17 AM PST by ssaftler (Is "Audacity of Hope" English for "Mein Kampf"?)
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To: bigbob

IF Bachmann took anything away from Ryan it is because he was too civil.

Conservatives, Tea Party, American Taxpayers don’t want “civil” (or in other words capitulation).

We want straight, bold, right to the point. WTF is the perfect example - learn it, live it, love you Republican hacks.


12 posted on 01/27/2011 11:41:22 AM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: bigbob
Walsh says her message took attention away from the main Republican speech by Congressman Paul Ryan.

"I mean there is no more Tea Party freshman on the planet than myself, but I'll be the first to say, respectfully, Michele had no business making that speech last night,” Walsh said. “I mean Paul Ryan gave the Republican response. We're all Republicans. I think it was a distraction that she did it, and it was just fodder for the media to do as you just said. To try to create this separation within the party."


Poor dumb Joe. Michele's presentation was just the other barrel of a policy gun aimed at the socialists in Congress. Joe, you put yourself out to be a distracting fodder for the media. You're new. Keep quiet for a while and listen and learn from the more experienced folks.
13 posted on 01/27/2011 11:42:20 AM PST by aruanan
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To: bigbob

“Bachmann was giving a response for a webcast for the Tea Party Express.”

Many lawmakers cannot wait to get to a microphone to give their response. Mr. Walsh knows very little about very little. The Dems will hand him his head shortly.


14 posted on 01/27/2011 11:44:22 AM PST by HChampagne (I am not an AARP member and never will be.)
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To: bigbob
"Tea Party Express" ≠ "Tea Party"
15 posted on 01/27/2011 11:44:43 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: bigbob

How does any of this help? Sure, Walsh is entitled to his opinion, but he should also realize the the Leftist media will seek to exploit any hint of division.


16 posted on 01/27/2011 11:44:43 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: bigbob
Jealous much Joe?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 01/27/2011 11:45:01 AM PST by The Comedian (Stop voting for The Government Party)
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To: bigbob

“We’re all Republicans.”

That’s his mistake. The Tea Party has emphasized from the word ‘Go!’ that it is *not* just a part of the Republican party, and that it refuses to be co-opted by the Republican party.

Many has been the time that the Tea Party has expressly refused to have Republican politicians address its functions, because it is adamant that it is *not* a Republican party organ.

In fact, the Tea Party has been at loggerheads with the Republican party leadership all through the election cycle, because the Republican leadership is far more concerned with electing “insiders” and “big tent moderates” than it is supporting conservatives and Tea Party sponsored candidates.

It would be well worth it, in fact, for the Tea Party to cultivate and sponsor “Tea Party Democrats”, who would have to be some of the most hard-assed and hard-charging people around, to challenge the Democrat leadership as well. Call them the “mule branch” of the Democrat party.

As long as such people embraced Tea Party values, and could take the vicious beating that the Democrat party would give them, then they could eventually become a new, non-socialist core for the Democrat party.

Almost eerie, isn’t it: “Tea Party Democrats”.


18 posted on 01/27/2011 11:45:42 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: bigbob

Obviously Joe Walsh hasn’t been in the loop.

Michelle Bachman was asked to speak by the Tea Party.

As has been noted, a lot of elected officials speak and or are interviewed after the State of the Union address by a president.

The mainstream media is going to try to divide the Tea Party and conservatives in Congress.

New members of Congress need to learn that the media is not their friend and learn how to keep their mouths shut and their opinions to themselves until they know all the facts.


19 posted on 01/27/2011 11:46:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: bigbob

Mr Walsh, you were supported heavily by the Tea Party. Michele Bachmann is one of the central figures of that organization. You have JUST arrived on the scene in Congress. Your role is to watch, learn and STFU.


20 posted on 01/27/2011 11:48:02 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obviously Joe Walsh hasn’t been in the loop.

Seems to me, Michelle doesn't want to talk about it.

21 posted on 01/27/2011 11:48:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bigbob

Hey, Walsh....STFU....the MORE Tea Party types speaking, the better....keeps the MSM off kilter....and gets the message out to more people...../coarseness.


22 posted on 01/27/2011 11:48:49 AM PST by goodnesswins (Socialism is organized stupidity. 2nd thought...I think DEMOCRATS are Organized Stupidity.)
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To: bigbob
Joe Walsh seems to be a good guy and is entitled to his opinion, so I don't think we should call for the tar and feathers quite yet.

Refreshing post. I get so tired of the tar and feather routine just because posters get jerked around when some liberal tosses out some bait in the MSM.

23 posted on 01/27/2011 11:49:46 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: bigbob

The last thing we need is 0bama Propaganda Central squiring the newbies. That will only lead to trouble.


24 posted on 01/27/2011 11:51:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: bigbob

Here are some zip codes in his district you can use:

McHenry - 60050, street - Maple Ave
Zion - 60099, street - Bethlehem Ave


25 posted on 01/27/2011 11:51:49 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: heysean

I think it was a mistake for her to allow/invite them.


26 posted on 01/27/2011 11:52:01 AM PST by Domalais
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To: bigbob

Bachmann should tell Walsh to relax, that life’s been good. Maybe he should take a vacation out to Colorado, by the Rocky Mountain Way


27 posted on 01/27/2011 11:52:46 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: bigbob

He needs to stop starting every sentence with “I mean...” Makes him sound high school.


28 posted on 01/27/2011 11:53:21 AM PST by upchuck (When excerpting please use the entire 300 words we are allowed. No more one or two sentence posts!)
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To: bigbob
Joe Walsh seems to be a good guy and is entitled to his opinion, so I don't think we should call for the tar and feathers quite yet.

That's fine but is he saying that there is only one person allowed to speak for the party on any given night? Didn't any other congressmen go before the cameras that night and offer their "opinion" of the Obama SOTU speech? I would think that the more the merrier in getting out the tea party message. And for the record, Bachmann was asked to speak to a specific group, it was the media themselves who "inserted" themselves into the story. I also hope Paul Ryan is tough enough to handle a Bachmann speech because this isn't about him, Joe Walsh or even Michelle Bachmann. This is about defeating the enemy. Let's keep our eyes on the ultimate goal, defeating the obama agenda.

29 posted on 01/27/2011 11:54:25 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Domalais
I think it was a mistake for her to allow/invite them.

I was actually under the impression that they just "crashed the party", I didn't even realize that she'd allowed them to broadcast it live.
30 posted on 01/27/2011 11:55:40 AM PST by heysean
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To: bigbob

Even if you think Michelle Bachman was wrong to let her speach be construed as the Tea Party response to SOTU, this guy is VERY STUPID to go on public record like this criticizing her.

Wasn’t there enough in Obama’s record to criticize without turning on Bachman?

Sounds like the new McCain, angling for media exposure. Whether that’s true or not, it sure sounds like it.

Ergo, stupid.


31 posted on 01/27/2011 11:56:26 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bigbob

So what? You can’t argue with a sick mind.

But seriously, folks...there goes the neighborhood.


32 posted on 01/27/2011 11:57:03 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: ScottinVA
Your role is to watch, learn and STFU.

Actually, I disagree with you there. Joe Walsh's role is to take on the socialist liberals in congress and in the media. It isn't his role to be a sniper for the GOP establishment against fellow tea party members.

33 posted on 01/27/2011 11:57:49 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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I think it was a distraction that she did it, and it was just fodder for the media to do as you just said. To try to create this separation within the party.”
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Yes, Walsh and you create more separation by playing into media schemes—like commenting negatively on a radio program about Bachmann’s actions.

Perhaps with the Tea Party Caucus...
“Tea Party Caucus is a caucus of the United States House of Representatives launched by Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann on July 16, 2010”

and having folks who donate to it...

“top contributors to the Tea Party caucus members are health professionals, retirees, the real estate industry and oil and gas interests.”

Perhaps Michelle felt an obligation to address the Tea Party, since there is no Congressman (TP)—the Tea Party doesn’t have to play 2nd fiddle just because it’s what the Republicans dictate—to feel special like a bride.

The Tea Party wanted a response for the Tea Party and asked Michele do give it, I would have thought her an azz if she refused.


34 posted on 01/27/2011 11:58:11 AM PST by Irenic
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To: bigbob
I'm a Tea Partier. I attend Tea Parties. I'm on my local Tea Party emailing list. I attend the meetings. I contribute.

I was not in favor of the timing of Rep. Bachmann's speech.....as great as the content was.

I also do not like the idea of Tea Party caucuses on the Hill.

The beauty and glory of the Tea Party is its independence, no affiliation with an existing political party, not being personality-driven by political celebrities, not being identified with GOP pols in the loathed D.C...... and not cohering into an organized standing target by its enemies.

All day yesterday, on EVERY half-hour spot of network radio news in my area I heard the announcer state that "the GOP response will be given by Paul Ryan and Michele Bachmann". Read that again.

I'm a Freeper, I'm here, I'm clear....I'm Tea Party all the way....and I'm with good guy Joe Walsh.

He was seeing beyond one night.

Leni

35 posted on 01/27/2011 11:59:01 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: bigbob

Hey Walsh, why aren’t you talking about the Obamacare waivers instead of attacking one of your own? Ohio has a waiver, means Obama won’t have to defend Obamacare in the keystate.


36 posted on 01/27/2011 11:59:10 AM PST by toddausauras
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To: pissant

*ping*


37 posted on 01/27/2011 12:03:36 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: upsdriver
Actually, I disagree with you there. Joe Walsh's role is to take on the socialist liberals in congress and in the media.

I agree with you there; my point is he's a bit early into the game to criticize the tactics of those on his same team.

38 posted on 01/27/2011 12:05:28 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: bigbob

“I mean there is no more Tea Party freshman on the planet than myself,”

Obviously not true now.

“but I’ll be the first to say, respectfully, Michele had no business making that speech last night,”

According to whom? According to what standard?

“I mean Paul Ryan gave the Republican response. We’re all Republicans. I think it was a distraction that she did it,”

Hey Joe - we’re really not that distracted and another thing - we can hear both sides and figure out stuff too!

“and it was just fodder for the media to do as you just said. To try to create this separation within the party.”

Erm... there IS a separation within the party - get on the right side quickly...


39 posted on 01/27/2011 12:06:26 PM PST by Kent C
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To: bigbob

Looks like the DC Republican, higher-up “in crowd” has destroyed the mind of Walsh. Sounds like a good “party man” already! If he begins fighting Grahamnesty for room in the McCain butt-kissing arena, we’ll know for sure!


40 posted on 01/27/2011 12:08:07 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: bigbob

I am NOT a republican. I am a Conservative.


41 posted on 01/27/2011 12:15:21 PM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: ScottinVA

I agree. If someone does have an issue with another on the team, settle it in private and keep it out of the media. As for all of us, we need to have some patience as this congress is just getting started. Too many want to accept defeat before the battle even starts.


42 posted on 01/27/2011 12:17:36 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
What do you mean “We” Kemo Sabe?
43 posted on 01/27/2011 12:17:56 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I am proclaiming 2011 as the year of ME!)
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To: MinuteGal

Leni I agree with your comments but I think it would have been much better if Joe Walsh hadn’t held up Michelle Bachmann for ridicule. We get enough of that from the Left.

Wouldn’t it have been better to talk amongst themselves this early on with so much hate coming from the Left, and expressed his views privately? He shouldn’t have said it.

If he felt there was some good reason to point her out to the media to get some important word out to the voters, of course he should speak up. But who was served by his comments?


44 posted on 01/27/2011 12:19:25 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: bigbob
I generally approve of Independence of thought
The Tea Party Movement is fundamentally Libertarian...

Just tone down the Ego guys...
Agree, the Republican party is "On Probation"

45 posted on 01/27/2011 12:20:06 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

IMO, Republican leadership allowed it to become a potential distraction with their ham handed “Paul Ryan speaks for the Republican Party” nonsense.


46 posted on 01/27/2011 12:22:26 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I am proclaiming 2011 as the year of ME!)
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To: bigbob

Rep. Joe Walsh could be the first TP political casualty of 2012.


47 posted on 01/27/2011 12:25:16 PM PST by Ben Reyes (Sarah Palin for President 2012)
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To: bigbob

As much as I love Michelle Bachmann and though she gave a dynamic speech, I happen to agree with Walsh. But people should follow Ronald Reagan’s advice, “If you can’t say something nice about a [Tea Party] Republican then you shouldn’t say anything.”


48 posted on 01/27/2011 12:26:27 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: rockinqsranch

“Ryan’s speech after the SOTU did not impress me”

Ditto. I like Ryan but he should have said what Michelle Bachmann said. She sounded and looked presidential. I’m a little tired of the Boys club running the GOP show. If they got their nose out of joint because she showed them up then tough tacos.


49 posted on 01/27/2011 12:26:32 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bigbob

Republicans can love Paul Ryan and Michelle Bachmann equally and at the same time.


50 posted on 01/27/2011 12:27:36 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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