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Unions make up 40 percent of employees exempted from Obamacare
Washington Examiner ^ | 1/27/11 | David Freddoso

Posted on 01/27/2011 6:08:58 PM PST by Nachum

Yesterday, the Deparment of Health and Human Services announced it had granted more than 500 new waivers to Obamacare's requirement that health plans have annual limits of no less than $750,000. This annual limit requirement climbs to $1.25 million next year and then to $2 million. The reason these exemptions from the law are needed is that Obamacare forces all health insurance consumers to over-insure themselves and pay high premiums as a result. Without the waivers, many companies, non-profits and unions would simply drop their health plans.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; elections; employees; government; obama; obamacare; obamacarewaivers; obamunism; unions

1 posted on 01/27/2011 6:09:02 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 01/27/2011 6:09:46 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Where does one download the exemption form?


3 posted on 01/27/2011 6:10:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nachum

If its not good enough for the unions, why the heck is Obamacare good enough for the rest of us?


4 posted on 01/27/2011 6:21:45 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

We should pull a cloward and piven on our own and flood the system with individual waiver requests.

What we need to do is file a FOIL request for one of these waivers that was granted and then use the exact same format and justification request.

If we are denied - we sue the crap out of them.

What do you think?


5 posted on 01/27/2011 6:24:08 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote
What do you think?

I think we sue the carp out of just because...........

Seriously, great idea!

6 posted on 01/27/2011 6:27:37 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends/family who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: Nachum
This is going to end up as a massive scandal-----and all the blame will go to Obama.

Americans aren't socialists, but they are passionate egalitarians. "Special deals for special pals" is NOT going to go down without a revolt. This will get very ugly.

7 posted on 01/27/2011 6:31:43 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of President Barrimore Soetero.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I Think I proposed a great plan.

Lets say we get a few hundred people to file FOIL requests for everyone who was granted a waiver and get a copy of their waiver request.

We then submit our own waiver request using the same exact application language.

If denied - we sue based upon discrimination and get to depose Sebelius in a deposition in discovery proceedings based upon the standards and docs she uses to grant or deny these requests.

BTW - I am a lawyer and think this will work great. I need to pm some of the other legal eagles on this site and maybe we can get something going.

After reading Rules for Radicals, this seems like something we can use to collapse obamacare, even if only slightly.


8 posted on 01/27/2011 6:39:46 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Nachum

Just as they want exemptions from minimum wage requirements when they hire rent-a-mob protesters...


9 posted on 01/27/2011 6:45:06 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: GlockThe Vote
We then submit our own waiver request using the same exact application language. If denied - we sue based upon discrimination

A super idea! Hundreds of thousands of waiver requests would clog the system and might even slow down HC "reform."

I can't understand why the media is so quiet about all the waivers. Yes, most are liberals, but the quality of their healthcare is at risk too and their HC premiums are going up like everyone else's. Maybe Obama granted a waiver via Executive Order to everyone in the MSM. I wouldn't put it past him.

10 posted on 01/27/2011 7:02:48 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: goldstategop

But the unions FORCED Obamacare on the “little people” for our own good. Unions should be FORCED to suffer as well.


11 posted on 01/27/2011 7:08:09 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: abbyg55

We need to get this to go viral. If we can get5 1,000 freepers to submit waiver requests - we can easily clog this up.


12 posted on 01/27/2011 7:10:29 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Nachum

I, for one, won’t settle for anything less than the health plan used by our “public servants” in Congress...


13 posted on 01/27/2011 7:14:44 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid
I, for one, won’t settle for anything less than the health plan used by our “public servants” in Congress...

The super-human efforts to save and rehabilitate Gabby Giffords, while commendable and uplifting, will likely cost millions. As a member of Congress with a Cadillac HC plan, I'm sure everything will be covered. Under Obamacare, if one of us got a bullet in the brain we'd probably be sent home with a bottle of pain pills. The rationale for us little people? Further treatment would be a waste of scarce healthcare dollars.

14 posted on 01/27/2011 7:31:35 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: Nachum

Corruption in government. The public is stuck with this stinking legislation, but friends of the White House are not.


15 posted on 01/27/2011 7:40:45 PM PST by popdonnelly (If Obama improves education, who'll vote for him?)
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To: Nachum
My now secondary provider, my former employer, has already removed the limits, with the corresponding premium increase. Did anybody in their right mind think that insurers would pay for this or employers. Individuals pay, period.
16 posted on 01/27/2011 7:42:38 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’m in! Please feel free to freepmail me for private contact info.


17 posted on 01/27/2011 8:26:55 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: cookcounty
"Americans aren't socialists, but they are passionate egalitarians."

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Let us hope you are wrong about that.

"What, in fact, is "equality"? The term has been much invoked but little analyzed. A and B are "equal" if they are identical to each other with respect to a given attribute. Thus, if Smith and Jones are both exactly six feet in height, then they may be said to be "equal" in height. If two sticks are identical in length, then their lengths are "equal," etc. There is one and only one way, then, in which any two people can really be "equal" in the fullest sense: they must be identical in all of their attributes. This means, of course, that equality of all men – the egalitarian ideal – can only be achieved if all men are precisely uniform, precisely identical with respect to all of their attributes. The egalitarian world would necessarily be a world of horror fiction – a world of faceless and identical creatures, devoid of all individuality, variety, or special creativity."

--Murray Rothbard, "Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature"

Hank

18 posted on 01/27/2011 9:13:01 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (DeMint/Christie 2012...The Y'all and the Ball! - And DAMN CHRISTADELPHIANS TO HELL!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’m intrigued....a couple of questions, though:

1) I presume you mean “FOIA” request and not “FOIL”? If not what is an “FOIL” request?

2) If we don’t own a business we can’t really request a waiver can we?

Hank


19 posted on 01/27/2011 9:15:46 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (DeMint/Christie 2012...The Y'all and the Ball! - And DAMN CHRISTADELPHIANS TO HELL!)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

THIS IS UNEQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW!


20 posted on 01/27/2011 9:38:07 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Nachum
Are these the same unions that PUSHED for Obamacare?

NO GOODS!!!!!
21 posted on 01/27/2011 11:09:18 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Nachum

Does the waiver also apply to “golden” health plans, where the premiums blow past $15k a year? I thought that was a dirty little secret of the unions too, that they have premium plans.


22 posted on 01/28/2011 5:52:44 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Nachum

Naturally pay back for their votes.


23 posted on 01/28/2011 6:15:57 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: goldstategop
If its not good enough for the unions and politicians , why the heck is Obamacare good enough for the rest of us?

There. Fixed it.
24 posted on 01/28/2011 7:03:32 AM PST by crosshairs (The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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To: GailA; Nachum; Elle Bee

Elle Bee bump


25 posted on 01/28/2011 10:49:37 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: CPT Clay
it's better than card check

now they have a chip to negotiate recognition directly with the employers

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26 posted on 01/28/2011 10:52:07 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: King Moonracer
Does the waiver also apply to “golden” health plans...?

I assumed that is exactly what the waivers are about (in the case of union waivers). Say a union worker gets a Cadillac plan that is worth $27,000 a year. Under Obamacare, he will be required to pay a "premium" tax on a certain part of that. Union members are up in arms, so, voila, the unions are exempted from taxing their golden plans.

27 posted on 01/30/2011 3:36:03 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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