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Without Egypt, Israel will be left with no friends in Mideast
Haaretz.com ^ | 1/30/10 | Aluf Benn

Posted on 01/29/2011 4:32:41 PM PST by antidemoncrat

The fading power of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's government leaves Israel in a state of strategic distress. Without Mubarak, Israel is left with almost no friends in the Middle East; last year, Israel saw its alliance with Turkey collapse.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: egypt; friends; israel
They don't appear to have any friends in the Western hemisphere either.
1 posted on 01/29/2011 4:32:45 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat

I don’t think Egypt is really Israel’s friend.


2 posted on 01/29/2011 4:34:09 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Is it coincidence that this all happened on Obama’s watch? I don’t believe so and further more, it wouldn’t surprise many of us if it comes out that he has been pursuing his anti-Israel policies while “seemingly desiring peace”...


3 posted on 01/29/2011 4:39:01 PM PST by princess leah
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To: antidemoncrat

Don’t forget that in The Revelation of John, in the end, Israel is without friends. Things be happening.


4 posted on 01/29/2011 4:40:03 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: antidemoncrat

Israel never had any friends she could count on, which is a damn shame.

It’s become so evil I would not be surprised if I flew over to Israel to help her defend herself.

This world has gone completely batsh!t.


5 posted on 01/29/2011 4:40:36 PM PST by NoGrayZone (WTF?)
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To: princess leah

I would like to know what contact he’s had with the Egyptian opposition.


6 posted on 01/29/2011 4:40:47 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: antidemoncrat

What would Israel do without Mubarak and Obama on their side?

7 posted on 01/29/2011 4:43:30 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: antidemoncrat

Not the important question.

The important one is how many and what type of enemies will Israel have when Cairo falls?

Well, correct me if I’m mistaken on these, Egypt is primarily Sunni, so is Hamas, Hezbolah, Muslim brotherhood, and Syria. Iran is primarily Shiite, so is Jordan, Lebanon, Fatah, and majority Iraq.

How many of them will be Israel’s enemy? My guess...all of them...if the the conditions permit them to get away with it. Another important thing to think about, Israel’s borders with enemies. They will become three, one smaller one and two very long ones. Things do not bode well for our dear friend, Israel. Or us.


8 posted on 01/29/2011 4:45:17 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install Lee Atwater)
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To: antidemoncrat

They are not friends. They are countries who both have a strong interest in avoiding an Israeli-Egyptian war. So perhaps “strategic partners” would be a better term.


9 posted on 01/29/2011 4:48:09 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of President Barrimore Soetero.)
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10 posted on 01/29/2011 4:48:35 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Brilliant
I don’t think Egypt is really Israel’s friend.

You're correct. When the $4 Billion a year stops, we'll all see that. What a horrible time to have PRES__ENT 0bama in charge.

11 posted on 01/29/2011 4:49:22 PM PST by papasmurf (sudo apt-get install Lee Atwater)
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To: antidemoncrat

Israel currently stands alone, without any allies. The United States is no longer an ally of Israel. This has Biblical implications.


12 posted on 01/29/2011 4:50:58 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: antidemoncrat
No problem. When I think of Israel, I'm reminded of a great on camera interview conducted during Desert Storm. It was during Thanksgiving. The correspondent was interviewing a squad of young U.S. Marines on the front line, and desperately stretching to spin the story against U.S. involvement in the ME
Correspondent: "Tell me, young man. How does it feel to know your Commander in Chief has placed you and your squad in harms way at this time of year; facing an entire Iraqi armor division; outnumbered 100s to one?"

Young Marine: (eyes widening) "100 to 1!?" (The thought of it has him jumping up and down with excitement. His helmet bouncing around on his head.) "SIR! THEY DON'T STAND A CHANCE, SIR!"

Correspondent: (Drops his microphone, and mutters) "That's it. I give up."
13 posted on 01/29/2011 4:52:44 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: NoGrayZone
In 1973 they could count on Nixon, described by then Prime Minister Golda Meir as "my President". I remember working in a warehouse on a part time job while in college when the news came over the radio that Nixon had raised DefCon as a warning to the Soviets to keep their noses (and troops) the f*** out.

Later on, in the early 80's, when I was in Amman I met a Palestinian who had served in the Egyptian Army in the Suez. He said the Egyptian troops could see US cargo planes in the distance flying into Israeli airfields just behind the lines dropping off supplies, one after the other in what seemed to be an endless stream of planes.

But now? GW Bush may have been the last unless we elect someone like Palin.

14 posted on 01/29/2011 4:54:29 PM PST by katana
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To: Brilliant

Really. Egypt was a friend? A better description would be non-belligerent.


15 posted on 01/29/2011 4:56:37 PM PST by glorgau
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To: antidemoncrat; All
If you want to hear probably the only true voice on the real enemy behind what is happening in Egypt and it's potential disastrous outcome for us and the world - listen to our new Congressman, Lt. Col Allen WEst on Huckabee coming up on Fox at 8 tonight.
West knows who the real enemy is - and he does NOT mince words. PC be damned.
We need to keep this man's back.
16 posted on 01/29/2011 4:57:02 PM PST by maine-iac7
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To: katana
I cannot wait until 2012. If this a$$hole tries to suppress our voting in anyway, we'll be the “Egypt” covered around the world.
17 posted on 01/29/2011 4:57:46 PM PST by NoGrayZone (WTF?)
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To: antidemoncrat

Obama sat in an anti-semetic and pro Pali church for over 20 years. This is going his way.


18 posted on 01/29/2011 5:10:26 PM PST by umgud
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To: antidemoncrat

The intelligence services of Israel and Jordan have back-channel lines open and during the Bush admin years there was some interaction there—some of it fairly significant.

I don’t know what goes on nowadays.

The Saudis have also cooperated with Israel from time to time on various matters. None of these nations want any of this stuff made public, though. It’s a domestic political no-no for all of them.


19 posted on 01/29/2011 5:12:07 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: antidemoncrat

Commie leftist scumbag rag. “Shoud I beleive them? Can anyone help here?’ /SARC!


20 posted on 01/29/2011 5:24:03 PM PST by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: PowderMonkey
Young Marine: (eyes widening) "100 to 1!?" (The thought of it has him jumping up and down with excitement. His helmet bouncing around on his head.) "SIR! THEY DON'T STAND A CHANCE, SIR!"

And that young marine was BALLS, DEAD NUTS SPOT ON!

21 posted on 01/29/2011 5:27:36 PM PST by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: antidemoncrat

Israel has many friends in the US, Christian and Jew alike.
Tragically, there is no support for Israel in the White House and the pro-Islam State Dept under SOS Clinton. And little support for Israel in the Democrat Party which has veered to the far Left.


22 posted on 01/29/2011 5:29:44 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Fred Hayek

Israel currently stands alone, without any allies.

Except Greece...


23 posted on 01/29/2011 5:33:22 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Brilliant; antidemoncrat

***I don’t think Egypt is really Israel’s friend.***

Not the first time.. Remember when Syria, Egypt and Jordan formed the United Arab Republic against Israel?


24 posted on 01/29/2011 5:34:34 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Brilliant

Obama met secretly with Moslem Bro last year for extensive talks. Reported today on DRUDGE
www.drudgereport.com/

A little community organizing on the side?


25 posted on 01/29/2011 5:34:34 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: antidemoncrat

The Muslims will be licking their chops soon because Israel has no friends in the Middle East. But, Israel does have one friend...God! God is not going to allow Israel to be destroyed! He is going to take the Muslims down before too long! He will allow the nations to gather and threaten Israel but He will perform a miracle and send the nations home with their tails in between their legs!


26 posted on 01/29/2011 5:41:48 PM PST by Buddygirl
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To: ReverendJames

“Don’t forget that in The Revelation of John, in the end, Israel is without friends. Things be happening.”

I bet there is going to be a “all this can end if Israel agrees to Palestinian demands” call from Obama to Bibi.

And the UN will demand Israel fix this.

If I was Bibi, I would just nuke Damascus and Tehran and be done with it. A Patton said: “We are here and we are going to have to fight them eventually, might as well do it now.”


27 posted on 01/29/2011 5:43:21 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: papasmurf
"The important one is how many and what type of enemies will Israel have when Cairo falls?"

The majority of American Jews including Wall Street and Hollywood types have never had any interest in preserving their historical homeland! History is only relevant to them when publicly while striking down an imaginary antisemitic or non-progressive group or individual. Therefore I believe the American left will also become a more exposed and enjoined enemy of Israel as well.

GOD will bless Israel; fortunately for all.

28 posted on 01/29/2011 5:44:24 PM PST by captnorb
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To: captnorb

Isaiah Chapter 19

from verse 18 on could make more sense soon.


29 posted on 01/29/2011 5:54:04 PM PST by right way right
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To: antidemoncrat

Israel has never pleased God when it has sought out allies.

A lot of people are going to die until they realize that they need to turn to God first.

God have mercy on Israel!


30 posted on 01/29/2011 6:03:54 PM PST by right way right
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To: right way right

That’s a rather good, and frightening, point you make.


31 posted on 01/29/2011 6:08:46 PM PST by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Israel will be pushed and pushed until she relents (prophetic) she will then rely on outsiders to protect her. Those outsiders will then turn on Israel to the point where Israel will almost be destroyed. Then guess who happens upon the scene?


32 posted on 01/29/2011 6:09:08 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: papasmurf
Well, correct me if I’m mistaken on these, Egypt is primarily Sunni, so is Hamas, Hezbolah, Muslim brotherhood, and Syria. Iran is primarily Shiite, so is Jordan, Lebanon, Fatah, and majority Iraq.

No. Egypt is Sunni and so is Jordan. Hamas, like Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Zawahiri's group, part of Al Qaeda), Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya ("The Islamic Group", that of the Omar Abdel-Rahman), Hamas, Hizb ut-Tahrir, and the various local branches/franchises/regional cell aggregates of Islamic Jihad are all children of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Fatah/PLO/PA is Sunni, with some Christians.
Syria is majority Sunni (70%?), but that is meaningless. The Alawi splinter of Shia Islam dominates the Baath party. The Muslim Brotherhood tried to take over Syria in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Assad responded brutally to a revolt in Hama. The city was essentially leveled by artillery, with up to 40,000 killed. Syria is allied to Shia Iran.
Lebanon is roughly 1/3 Christian, 30% Sunni, 30% Shi'ite, 5% Druze. Many of the Sunni are Syrian puppets. The Shi'ites are reoresented by Iranian backed Amal and Hiuzbullah.

Iraq is majority Shi'ite but there are plenty of Sunni Arabs and Kurds.

33 posted on 01/29/2011 7:12:29 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Nile to Euphrates. Forget Ramallah, Israel will be debating settlements around Amman, Damascus and Alexandria. (Just kidding)


34 posted on 01/29/2011 7:14:03 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I’m with you! But it may very well turn out we can defend her by fighting her “enemies” right here in the U.S.A.


35 posted on 01/29/2011 7:23:28 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: antidemoncrat

An alliance between Israel and Syria would be horrible. If it did come to pass, the first casualty will be Lebanon. Syria has wanted to get back in ever since George W Bush helped to kick it out.


36 posted on 01/29/2011 7:24:08 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

Israel has the only friend she needs-
the Lord of all creation.
The rest of us Best get on board and support her as well as we can, because her enemies will end with a quick and terrible demise.
Be of good cheer. This stuff is foretold. Watching it unfold is a surreal experience, but should serve to press you MORE into faith, not scare you away.


37 posted on 01/29/2011 7:47:06 PM PST by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: ReverendJames

“Then guess who happens upon the scene?”

Enlighten me please.


38 posted on 01/29/2011 7:54:18 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: antidemoncrat

The author Aluf should be renamed haloof. (that’s Arabic for fool)

Other Jews and Israelies are smart. Just shut up and wait for the dust to settle.


39 posted on 01/29/2011 8:02:53 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Beware of the Socialist Government-Academia Grant Junkie-Rich "non-profit"-Liberal Media Complex)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Well, if you’ve read The Revelation of John, you’ll soon see that Israel is left alone. She’ll reach out for help and it will be given her. But, when all is peace and safety, those friends will turn on her. When Israel is about to be crushed, Messiah will return. That’s the whole scenario. I suggest you read The Revelation of John in the NIV. It’s in plain English and reads quite easily.


40 posted on 01/29/2011 8:12:56 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: ReverendJames

>> Things be happening.<<

And so fast it’s beginning to make my head spin. I was just reading Isaiah 19 again. Not a coincidence, these things that are happening.


41 posted on 01/29/2011 8:28:49 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

The thing is we can’t be going off half cocked. Paul was looking for Christs return during his lifetime. There have been so many false scenarios the latest of which was Hitler. It’s not until Israel became a state again where Biblical prophecy can be watched, looked at. There’s lots more on the horizon.


42 posted on 01/29/2011 8:32:12 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: papasmurf
>>Well, correct me if I’m mistaken on these, Egypt is primarily Sunni, so is Hamas, Hezbolah, Muslim brotherhood, and Syria. Iran is primarily Shiite, so is Jordan, Lebanon, Fatah, and majority Iraq.<<

Egypt is a Sunni country but with strong Shia leanings. It is the country that gave refuge to the descendants of the Prophet Mohamed in the first century AH and continues to venerate them today. Its venerable Al-Azhar University is one of the few Sunni academic institutions to teach Shia Jaafari jurisprudence alongside the four schools of Sunni jurisprudence. This is of no small import given the historical and symbolic significance of Al-Azhar. In addition, Egypt was the first officially Shia state which, founded in the mid-10th century AH, did more than its predecessors to shape the traditions and values of Egyptian society.

Much of the anger and criticism sparked by President Hosni Mubarak’s statements back in 2006 on Arab Shia was the result of them being taken out of context and isinterpreted. Those comments however sparked a division and resentment.

Suggesting that Egypt is only Sunni is not correct.

43 posted on 01/29/2011 8:33:06 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: antidemoncrat

With friends like this, who needs enemas?


44 posted on 01/29/2011 8:37:48 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: antidemoncrat

They don’t need any “friends” like Egypt; hell, they don’t need any friends at all because of their nuclear bombs. Thank G-d Israel was smart and got the bomb!! Can you imagine if Israel didn’t have it? All of those islamic animals would’ve overrun the country years ago. Those raging lunatics in the islamic world better remember that ISRAEL can nuke all of their useless real estate and turn it to glass in one second. No more dead Jews at the hands of lunatics! (and I’m a Catholic)


45 posted on 01/29/2011 9:07:03 PM PST by Gapplega
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