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Muslim Brotherhood Deception: They Say Different Things in English and Arabic
big peace ^ | 1/30/11 | Christine Brim

Posted on 01/30/2011 9:10:29 AM PST by Nachum

Over the next few days, here are 2 websites to compare – the Muslim Brotherhood’s English language and Arabic websites. First, the Muslim Brotherhood website in English – complete with the word “freedom” and a cute little girl, and no Islamic green in sight – here at

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brotherhood; deception; english; ikhwan; mb; muslim; muslimbrotherhood
Typical deception.
1 posted on 01/30/2011 9:10:39 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

There’s an old Arab saying that goes something like “What you see is not necessarily real”. They are raised on deception.

2 posted on 01/30/2011 9:12:50 AM PST by RC2
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To: Nachum

Deception, it’s one of the five pillars that the big “O” spoke of.

3 posted on 01/30/2011 9:14:00 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Nachum

They just don’t understand the nuances of English. Their teachers have mistakenly taught them that the Arabic for kill! Cut! Stab! Shoot! is love, hug, kiss, pamper

4 posted on 01/30/2011 9:17:20 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: Nachum

Qur’an, Sura 16:106:

Anyone who after accepting faith in Allah utters Unbelief except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in faith but such as open their breast to unbelief, on them is wrath from Allah.


Sura 2:225:

Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts.



5 posted on 01/30/2011 9:21:45 AM PST by FourPeas (From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. Ja 3:10)
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To: Nachum

Non-Islamist make the mistake of believing the LIES.

Islamist are taught to lie to non-believers. THAT is a FACT.

6 posted on 01/30/2011 9:23:19 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Marty62

Sort of like American communists

7 posted on 01/30/2011 9:24:50 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Nachum
(as experienced by non-Muslims)


KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!


KORAN [9.32] They desire to put out the light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah will not consent save to perfect His light, though the unbelievers are averse.


Hadith Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS [for authoring songs and jokes about Muhammad]

HADITH Sahih Muslim [19:4436] It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes.
He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

APOSTATES AND "young people with foolish thoughts"
TO BE KILLED BY ANYONE WHO FINDS THEM (e.g. honor killings):

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:260] Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [6:61:577] Narrated 'Ali:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [9:84:64] Narrated 'Ali:
Whenever I tell you a narration from Allah's Apostle, by Allah, I would rather fall down from the sky than ascribe a false statement to him, but if I tell you something between me and you (not a Hadith) then it was indeed a trick (i.e., I may say things just to cheat my enemy). No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."


HADITH Sahih Muslim [5:2325] Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:
A group would secede itself (from the Ummah) when there would be dissension among the Muslims. Out of the two groups who would be nearer the truth would kill them.

Unlike Christians, Muslims can pretend to deny their faith to fool unbelievers (Al-Taqiyyah):

KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.


HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

WOMEN (and girls) IN ISLAM:

KORAN [2.223] Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:67] Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [5:58:234] Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old [Muhammad was 53] , and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).


KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

KORAN [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

© Religion of Peace

KORAN (Shakir translation):

Let Muslims Pronounce Their Own Judgement:


8 posted on 01/30/2011 9:37:23 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Nachum
Deceiving the infidels.. it's called Taqiyya and the Islamists (political Islam and Sharia law advocates) celebrate it in song .. give a listen

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9 posted on 01/30/2011 9:56:27 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Rome2000

Commie/Fascist are all the SAME.

10 posted on 01/30/2011 10:43:40 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Nachum
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11 posted on 01/30/2011 11:05:40 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Nachum

Note the banner image on Drudgereport at this hour: A “protest” poster of Mubarak with a Star of David on his forehead and several other ominous markings. Also some arabic writing ... Anyone know what it says?

And where did Drudge get this? I can never tell.

12 posted on 01/30/2011 12:27:15 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
It's gone from Drudge, but here it is:

The "Star of David" is smudged or something, and I thought maybe it was something else, but I'm still pretty sure it must be that. I believe the eye patch, also in red, is to make him into Moshe Dayan, who was Foreign Minister for Israel during the negotiations with Sadat ( although the patch is on the wrong side. ) The black X seems to mean that the other eye should be taken out, the first eye being Sadat, of course. Mubarak was Vice President to Sadat, and the bottom line of Arabic resembles "Sadat," السادات, but I don't know.

Anyway, I think the gist of it is that Mubarak is a Zionist tool just as Sadat was, and has to go.

13 posted on 01/30/2011 4:49:37 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
The picture is part of this Reuter's article, but no mention is made of its meaning or symbology. It's slightly larger than Drudge's version, and the Star of David is quite clear.
14 posted on 01/30/2011 10:02:44 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Nachum

Obama Administration Lifts US Ban on Muslim Brotherhood Leader
01/22/10 | | by Avi Yellin

The Barack Obama administration has decided to lift a ban preventing Muslim Scholar Professor Tariq Ramadan from entering the United States. Ramadan, an Egyptian currently living in Switzerland, is a leading member of Europe’s Muslim Brotherhood branch and the grandson of the movement’s founder Hassan al-Banna. The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization for Hamas and some of the groups that recently merged into al-Qaeda, including Ayman al Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

Ramadan was invited to teach at the University of Notre Dame in 2004 but the George W. Bush administration revoked his visa, citing a statute that applies to those who have “endorsed or espoused” terrorism. The administration later dropped the terror endorsement claim and linked the ban to $1,336 in donations Ramadan made between 1998 and 2002 to a Swiss charity that was later blacklisted by the US.

Although the White House asked the court last March to uphold the Bush-era entry ban on Ramadan, the administration has now decided to lift the ban and possibly allow both Ramadan and South African Muslim activist Professor Adam Habib onto American soil. State Department spokesman Philip Crowley told reporters that the government no longer views Ramadan or Habib as representing threats to the United States. “The next time Professor Ramadan or Professor Habib apply for a visa, they will not be found inadmissible on the basis of the facts that led to denial when they last applied.”

October 1, 2010 - San Francisco, CA - - Tariq Ramadan, the son of [now deceased] Said Ramadan, former Secty. General of the World Islamic Council [source,] and grandson of Hassan Al Banna [see, Wiki bio,] the 1928 founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, is headlining the 16th Annual CAIR Banquet on October 9.

According to the Weekly Standard, it was Said Ramadan who was the likely author of the Muslim Brotherhood’s ambitious plan to topple Western democracies, variously called, “the Plan” or “the Project.” [Link to doc here An Explanatory Memorandum On the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America. The document was entered into evidence in U.S. vs. Holy Land Foundation, America’s most important terror funding prosecution.

“Said Ramadan was one of the most important Islamist thinkers of the 20th century. He is probably the author of “The Project,” a 14-page document dated 1982 found by the Swiss secret service in 2001. “The Project” is a roadmap for installing Islamic regimes in the West by propaganda, preaching, and if necessary war.” [source,]

Muslims Target Tariq Ramadan, Brotherhood
by IPT News • Apr 16, 2010


Jasser said that Western elites misconstrue critical issues in the current struggle with radical Islam. They erroneously believe that the most important aspect of the conflict is whether an Islamist organization is violent or nonviolent.

But truly moderate Muslims spend most of their time dealing with the factors that drive people toward radical Islam. And a major factor is “political Islam,” which Jasser described as “the 800-pound elephant in the room.”

A key component of this consists of making excuses for terrorism and objecting to U.S. defense actions against violent jihadists. Jasser cited an interview during which a reporter asked Ramadan about the recent announcement that the United States would target Anwar al-Awlaki –an Al Qaeda-linked imam who has endorsed terrorist attacks like the Fort Hood massacre and the attempted Christmas Day airliner bombing.

Ramadan voiced objections to U.S. efforts to kill Awlaki, saying the imam felt “estrangement” from mainstream American society and had been “pushed away.”
Jasser and Mansur voiced particularly strong objections to this “root cause” argument, saying it was an attempt to make excuses for Awlaki’s criminal behavior. Ramadan also accepted money from Iran as compensation for a television show on the regime controlled PRESS Television.

“I would not take remuneration from a government that engages in the oppression of Muslims,” Jasser said.

Ramadan stands for “obfuscation and denial” and represents the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood, he added.

Fatah, who also published this column on Ramadan in the Montreal Gazette, blasted the “cowardice of Western society” in refusing to confront efforts to “recreate the world of [Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna, Tariq Ramadan’s grandfather] in Canada.”


15 posted on 01/31/2011 7:39:56 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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