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Giles schools give God space; will return Ten Commandments display to buildings (Virginia)
The Roanoke Times ^ | 21 January 2011 | Lerone Graham

Posted on 01/30/2011 12:30:55 PM PST by Racehorse

The Ten Commandments will hang in public schools, the Giles County School Board unanimously decided Thursday afternoon despite the school district attorney's recommendation and precedent from the U.S. Supreme Court.

In December, a group that advocates separation between church and state asked Giles Superintendent Terry Arbogast to remove prints of the Ten Commandments because, the group stated, such a display in public schools violates the Constitution. The school district attorney agreed, so the district did.

"It wasn't a decision we took lightly," Arbogast said after Thursday's meeting. "And it wasn't a decision based on our personal beliefs."

He hadn't expected the public's condemnation and the school board's reversal.

More than 200 county residents packed the school board meeting room and adjacent hallway Thursday afternoon, and a half-dozen parents and pastors told the board to honor God and continue to teach children that the United States is "one nation, under God" with the commandments.

"You have a moral obligation to what is right," Elwood Lambert of Narrows said to the board. "Do not let our future children be deprived of this right -- a God-given right."

The crowd clapped and cheered, and many answered "Amen."

Eric Gentry, chairman of the Giles County Board of Supervisors, said he and other local officials supported the community's wishes "because it's the right thing to do."

The supervisors held their own meeting Thursday night, but they did not vote or discuss this schools issue, he said.

Gentry told the school board to fight "hate groups," such as the American Civil Liberties Union, which often takes on First Amendment legal battles, and keep the posters in schools.

The five-member school board responded with a unanimous vote to put the documents back on the walls.

(Excerpt) Read more at roanoke.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: god; religion; schools; tencommandments
In 2008 Giles County, Virginia had a whopping population of 17,249 souls with a median household income of $43,322.

Hopefully, these brave souls will attract some deep pocket champions to help them fight off The Freedom From Religion Foundation and the ACLU

1 posted on 01/30/2011 12:30:58 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

God bless these Christian patriots. The ACLU is a virulent hate group that is persecuting Christians, and it should be fought. If judges side with their ungodly lawsuits, Christian parents should keep their children out of schools that obey man rather than God. We must not accept the destruction of our faith and culture.


2 posted on 01/30/2011 12:46:54 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

bttt


3 posted on 01/30/2011 12:54:55 PM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: Racehorse

Religious Speech is Speech.

It should be treated as any other speech.

I have read about girls getting kicked off the cheerleading squad because they didn’t want to do “booty call” gyrations to the crowd at a game.

How come thats okay and any religious (I mean Christian) thing is banned?


4 posted on 01/30/2011 12:58:05 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: Racehorse
I read these stories and I'm still trying to figure out how when my girls were in school here in Virginia, the Christmas programs had religious songs sung. The schools were located in a majority black city. The ACLU totally ignores black schools. My youngest daughter was even typing an employee's sermons for her. My daughter was working as a receptionist after school hours for the adult evening program back then. She came home and told me, Mom, I'm sure there is some rule against this, but I went ahead and did it anyway.

It's not that I have a problem with it, it's just treat everyone the same.

5 posted on 01/30/2011 1:32:55 PM PST by republicangel
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To: kittymyrib

Yes, in the end, the only way to force the hand of the State is to boycott the school, as blacks boycotted the city buslines in the 1950s. But it will take nerve, leadership and organization.


6 posted on 01/30/2011 2:43:17 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Racehorse

Funny that these Christian parents would choose a list of Hebrew laws to pick a fight with the government.


7 posted on 01/30/2011 2:47:43 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

Funny you should think so.

Thus far, Giles County parents have not picked a fight with the government. The most that can be said is that they made demands upon their school board, which were honored.

The fight is between two secular private organizations versus the school board. No conflict with “the” government arises until they lose at trial or receive an order from a State or federal agency they choose to ignore.

As for the subset of Hebrew laws known as the Ten Commandments, the New Testament does not disavow them. Quite the opposite.

So I think. :-)


8 posted on 01/30/2011 3:54:14 PM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Racehorse

Terry Arbogast hired me for my first teaching job in a northern virginia county....I always wondered what became of him. He’s a good guy.


9 posted on 01/30/2011 4:06:55 PM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: Racehorse
As for the subset of Hebrew laws known as the Ten Commandments, the New Testament does not disavow them. Quite the opposite.

Dont Christians only follow 9 of 10? Christians dont keep the Sabbath.

10 posted on 01/30/2011 4:13:48 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960

You would certainly be correct to point out Jews and Christians do not keep Sabbath in the same ways.

Jesus was certainly accused of breaking Sabbath. And right from the start of anything that could be construed as Christian there were great variations in views on and observance of Sabbath.


11 posted on 01/30/2011 5:49:39 PM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: blasater1960
I'm not sure why it matters which of the Ten Commandments Christians follow or that they would want to have Hebrew laws posted. Man is sinful and no man can follow all the commandments.

The issue is that legal activists have sought to misread the 1st Ammendment for years. Even in the article the writer quotes a speaker as saying: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Please notice the period after "religion" instead of a comma. The balance of the clause reads: ",or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Liberals would also have you believe that the word "respecting" is defined as reverence or admiration, thus meaning that Congress shall make no law which shows respect or admiration to religion. The clause actually means make no law "regarding" religion.

In as much as the Constitution deals with the federal government, a local government could decide anything it wants to in regard to religion.

12 posted on 01/30/2011 6:13:57 PM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: Racehorse

Oh, I think that, too. Absolutely, except for honoring the Sabbath.

That’s why my kids memorized the Sermon on the Mount. Applies to Christians, and it’s way more comprehensive.


13 posted on 01/30/2011 6:14:49 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah
Funny that these Christian parents would choose a list of Hebrew laws to pick a fight with the government.

Thank you for identifying yourself. I have always had reservations about your dogmatic fanaticism, now I have confirmation.

Fortunately, as a Catholic Christian, I know that our Ten Commandments and the "Hebrew" one are practically indistinguishable.
Thank you for eliminating any further uncertainty.

14 posted on 01/30/2011 7:11:33 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: blasater1960
Dont Christians only follow 9 of 10? Christians dont keep the Sabbath.

Of course we do. Just not the same way as Orthodox Jews. Differences due to interpretations by humans of different sects.

Is that a surprise for you?

15 posted on 01/30/2011 7:15:49 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: Publius6961; Jedediah

Hello Publius.

Your post to me didn’t make much sense. I’m fairly certain that you have me mixed up with a FReeper with a similar name. He fancies himself a prophet, and I think he lives in the Pacific northwest. Screen name is Jedediah. Note the difference in spelling.

I’m just an old Texas grandma, a conservative Christian with no “dogmatic fanaticism” whatsoever. I was here long before Jedediah, and I stick mostly to the news and politics boards, venturing occasionally into religion forums.

As for the Ten Commandments, I understand that public display of them has become an issue as the government encroaches more and more on our rights of free speech and practice of our faith.

I just know that the Commandments given to Moses tell only part of the story and that, as Christians, there’s so much more to learn and know and share.

If I have offended you, sorry. Surely didn’t mean to.


16 posted on 01/30/2011 7:43:16 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Racehorse

This is my home county. Last I heard the Freedom From Religion Foundation had to withdraw because the person who filed the complaint did not have a child in Giles County public schools and could therefore not be a plaintiff.

I suspect that after all of this, they’ll have a hard time finding someone to take up their cause.


17 posted on 01/30/2011 7:58:15 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Racehorse

The apostle Paul says dont do it. If you keep any aspect of the law, you must keep it all.


18 posted on 02/01/2011 11:42:46 AM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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