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(UNREAL, INSANE BIAS) House Republicans Plan to Redefine Rape
ABC (A Bunch of Communists) ^ | Jan. 31, 2011 | By NICK BAUMANN

Posted on 01/31/2011 6:27:05 AM PST by Lazamataz

Drugged, Raped, and Pregnant? Too bad -- Republicans are Pushing to Limit Rape and Incest Cases Eligible for Government Abortion Funding

Rape is only really rape if it involves force, according to the new House Republican majority as it now moves to change abortion law.

For years, federal laws restricting the use of government funds to pay for abortions have included exemptions for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest, with another exemption covering pregnancies that could endanger the life of the mother.

But the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," contains a provision that would rewrite the rules to drastically limit the definition of rape and incest in these cases. The bill, with 173 mostly Republican co-sponsors, has been dubbed a top priority in the new Congress by House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).

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KEYWORDS: abc; abortion; opinionasnews; pressbias; prolife; rape; staterunmedia
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The level of bias is breathtaking.

Opinion is heartily mixed with occasional facts, in this State Run Media (ABC) article.

I seriously expect the following news headline from ABC by the end of the year: "Republicans Suck. They Are Demons From Hell. They Eat Infants."

1 posted on 01/31/2011 6:27:08 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Doing your job, today. LOL


2 posted on 01/31/2011 6:29:03 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

What part of “no funding or abortion” do these people not understand??

Even the Republicans don’t really seem to get it.


3 posted on 01/31/2011 6:29:26 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: Lazamataz
"Raped" by her boyfriend, who she is still living with, qualifies her for government funded abortion?
4 posted on 01/31/2011 6:29:54 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

“Oh, but he didn’t mean it. He love me!”


5 posted on 01/31/2011 6:31:13 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: GeronL
I'll give 'em forcible rape, but I'm not an abortion purist. I'll respect your opinion, if we disagree about it.

But mostly, this post is to demonstrate about a 95% anti-Republican bias level.

6 posted on 01/31/2011 6:31:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

Any politician who says they think it’s fine to butcher babies, no matter who pays for the butchery, should be impeached. In fact, they should probably be incarcerated as a danger to society as well.


7 posted on 01/31/2011 6:31:50 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Is a child a person? Of course. Which is why we MUST ban abortion NOW.)
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To: broken_arrow1
"Raped" by her boyfriend, who she is still living with, qualifies her for government funded abortion?

According to Democrats, "Rape" is what a fetus does when existing in the womb. Therefore, all pregnancy is rape.

8 posted on 01/31/2011 6:32:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m more amazed at the incredible bias in this article.


9 posted on 01/31/2011 6:33:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
Rape is only really rape if it involves force, according to the new House Republican majority as it now moves to change abortion law.

Rape involves force. Statuatory rape does not involved force. WTF?

10 posted on 01/31/2011 6:38:10 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Lazamataz

Why should taxpayers pay for it just because it was forcible rape?


11 posted on 01/31/2011 6:39:20 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: GeronL

I have a low concern level about abortion, so I probably won’t join in a discussion about that. Again, my focus is the fact that opinion — pure, raw opinion — is being presented as news.


12 posted on 01/31/2011 6:43:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: EternalVigilance

What truly confuses me is the large number of religious people who ignore this and vote as demorats. Inconceivable.


13 posted on 01/31/2011 6:43:47 AM PST by SgtHooper (We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.)
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To: broken_arrow1; Lazamataz

Raped by her boyfriend, with whom she is still living? Around here, I refer to that has a “hillbilly rape.” It goes like this:

“You were my boyfriend yesterday, and you might be my boyfriend again tomorrow, but we’re split up today so if we have sex it’s rape.”

I was a prosecutor for 18 years; these cases crossed my desk more often than you could guess. None of them got filed in Court. You do not get “raped” by a boyfriend you still live with. Sorry ladies, but “rape” is a big grown up word with big grown up consequences (like the sex offender registry) and it should not be cheapened like that.


14 posted on 01/31/2011 6:44:11 AM PST by henkster (Before we make any more "investments" we ought to be shown the prospectus.)
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To: henkster

I’m so glad there (was) a prosecuter with a lick of sense. Pity you won’t consider coming out of retirement — we need more like you.


15 posted on 01/31/2011 6:46:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

Eventually a “blood libel” will come from their talking heads..............


16 posted on 01/31/2011 6:47:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Lazamataz
I seriously expect the following news headline from ABC by the end of the year: "Republicans Suck. They Are Demons From Hell. They Eat Infants."

...With ketchup.

17 posted on 01/31/2011 6:55:08 AM PST by Miss_Meyet (When I was young I was told that anybody could become President; I'm beginning to believe it.)
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To: Lazamataz

The opinion that one should be pro-life with exception to rape/incest/health reasons/etc. almost makes less sense to me than being pro-abortion. By that logic, one should go around euthanizing the elderly and children who receive inadequate care simply because they’re ‘burdens’ on a family economy. I’d hazard a guess that many of these people who want abortion ‘exceptions’ are indifferent towards the coming death panels Obamacare is going to be mandating.


18 posted on 01/31/2011 6:55:22 AM PST by Objective Scrutator (Liberals are lazy, and objectively pro-lazy.)
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To: Lazamataz

Why is the financing of the murder of unborn children a federal concern anyway? There is no interstate commerce involved.


19 posted on 01/31/2011 6:57:55 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: GeronL
What part of “no funding or abortion” do these people not understand?

No joke. The Republicans are NOT calling for abortions from rape to be illegal. Simply wanting GOVERNMENT FUNDING removed.

And it is simply the same old playbook. The State Controlled ABC find one little SOCIAL nugget to make a story out of and go after it, DESPITE what the actual country's reaction was to Stupak's announcement last year that he would be voting for Obamacare after receiving some Obama deal.

Will the Stupak coalition fall for the Obama/Pelosi/Reid double cross?

Not too long ago, when I first heard the possible deal in the works about a seperate bill that Steny Hoyer was floating, I thought this was a hoodwink effort to get the Stupak coalition of votes of which if Pelosi doesn’t get those, Obamacare’s demise is certain.

Bottom line: These PROGRESSIVES need to learn to live without Government! Abortion is NOT illegal. This legislation will not do one thing to change that. This legislation will remove FUNDING. If so many people want to see Planned Parenthood centers all across the country, find your sources of funding elsewhere!!!
20 posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:01 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: Lazamataz

a woman walks into a pawn shop and hands the worker a diamond ring. After inspecting it, the jeweler says “I’m sorry, but this is not a real diamond.”

The woman screams “Call the police! I’ve just been raped!”


21 posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:01 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Lazamataz

Feminists have already redefined rape ... to mean later regrets about a consensual act (among other things).


22 posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:32 AM PST by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: Lazamataz

The first thing that jumped out at me, is the term “frcible rape,” which is a perfectly reasonable, descriptive term, which has been in use for many years, by Dems and Reps alike I am sure.


23 posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:46 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Lazamataz

Got the message, conservatives - why do you still watch ANYTHING on ABC?


24 posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:46 AM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why act surprised?)
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To: freespirited

ding ding ding....we have a winner....
besides, it’s not about re-defining rape, it’s about deciding what gets funded....


25 posted on 01/31/2011 7:01:07 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: henkster

They’re not “ladies” if they’re !%#!@$#@ing around.

All these problems would be moot if we all kept our legs together and stopped the immorality that leads to these babies and rapes (real or not).


26 posted on 01/31/2011 7:01:36 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

ObamaCare forces insurance companies to pay for abortion I think.

Same difference.

these people are all sick.


27 posted on 01/31/2011 7:02:00 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: GeronL; Lazamataz
Why should taxpayers pay for it just because it was forcible rape?

Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for someone else's abortion. In fact, there are A LOT of things that taxpayers should not be forced to pay for.

But I agree with Laz. The main point is the ABC bias. Republicans are in office so grab on to some SOCIAL story and smear them.
28 posted on 01/31/2011 7:02:42 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (formally known as Kerretarded....I changed my name)
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To: pnh102
Why is the financing of the murder of unborn children a federal concern anyway? There is no interstate commerce involved.

Because white liberals in states like NY or Massachussets worry that, without federal funding, nasty black babies may go unaborted in states like Louisiana and Alabama.

29 posted on 01/31/2011 7:03:25 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Lazamataz
There's very clear definitions in each state. They are creating a controversy that isn't there. "Forcible rape" is the old common law definition that almost always refers to anything that isn't strict liability (statutory). That includes date rape, drugs, etc.

I'm going to possibly take some heat here, but I go a lot further than the bill in my stance. Abortion should be banned and the only exception should be the life of the mother. Babies are innocent. They don't choose their sperm donors.

30 posted on 01/31/2011 7:03:45 AM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Eagle of Liberty
But I agree with Laz. The main point is the ABC bias

I'd at least appreciate a little honesty in their name. ABC could easily become WHC, which would stand for We Hate Conservatives.

31 posted on 01/31/2011 7:05:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
There used to be a quasi-truce between the pro and anti-choice forces

Obscene bias. Neutral would be to use each camp's terminology for itself, thus pro-choice and pro-life. The author clearly states his bias as soon as he uses one camp's term for the other. Also no attempt to get a quote from the authors, only the opposition. At the very least a responsible journalist would have the last sentence be something "Calls to the authors of the bill were not returned."

32 posted on 01/31/2011 7:05:47 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Lazamataz
How 'bout this:

Leave the baby alone.

Crush the rapist.

Would that make your concern level go up a tick, Laz?

33 posted on 01/31/2011 7:05:50 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Whisper sweet words of epistemology in your ear and speak to you of the pompitus of love.SteveMiller)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Yes, I’m really not so hep on having abortions for any reason. It’s not the baby’s fault how it came to be.


34 posted on 01/31/2011 7:05:50 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Lazamataz

I guess they mean what Whoopi calls Rape-Rape.


35 posted on 01/31/2011 7:08:05 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Again, I'm abortion-agnostic. However, I am 10000% against the insane levels of bias in this article, and thousands like it.

We all have our issues we care deeply about. Together, we form a Conservative party. :)

36 posted on 01/31/2011 7:08:42 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

I don’t expect anything but bias from ABC


37 posted on 01/31/2011 7:08:52 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: GeronL
I don’t expect anything but bias from ABC.

True dat. But this one is over the top.

38 posted on 01/31/2011 7:17:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
Force and that they file and not withdraw a rape report with the police, so if they live with the rapist their rapist goes to jail (if it isn't a croc to begin with).
39 posted on 01/31/2011 7:20:56 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Lazamataz

If you were going to have an exception for rape, it would have to have been reported to the police and a rape kit done at the ER.

Just saying “I was raped” wouldn’t cut it.


40 posted on 01/31/2011 7:27:00 AM PST by Grunthor (Enemy of the state)
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To: Lazamataz
I know we all can't be experts in everything. I just thought "Smash the guilty, not the innocent" merited more than a "Duh, gee, I dunno, that's above my pay grade" agnostic response.

I get the point about the ant-Republican bias, though. Maybe if you could presume all babies as being Republicans until proven otherwise? (Odd, but it might work.)

41 posted on 01/31/2011 7:35:21 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Whisper sweet words of epistemology in your ear and speak to you of the pompitus of love.SteveMiller)
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To: Darren McCarty

“I’m going to possibly take some heat here, but I go a lot further than the bill in my stance. Abortion should be banned and the only exception should be the life of the mother. Babies are innocent. They don’t choose their sperm donors. “

hear, hear!

It is sad that rape victimes are pressured into thinking this is their “cure” as well.
That eliminating their own child will somehow help them.

Not to minimize their suffering - it is a horrible (and rare) thing to become pregnant from a rape.
Killing an innocent is horrible as well.


42 posted on 01/31/2011 7:37:13 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Lazamataz

First, there should be absolutely no federal funding of any abortion... none,nada.

Second, I am fairly sure the “left” democrats, under the guise of Whoopie Goldberg, redefined rape.. after all, if it isn’t “Rape Rape”........


43 posted on 01/31/2011 7:38:21 AM PST by Fantomw
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To: Lazamataz

So, are they going to use the “Whoopster’s” definition and call it rape rape?


44 posted on 01/31/2011 7:38:45 AM PST by sniper63 (Did you plug the hole in the border yet daddy........)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s not rape-rape...


45 posted on 01/31/2011 7:39:29 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 741 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Lazamataz

Did the article get pulled? I can’t get to the story.


46 posted on 01/31/2011 7:42:53 AM PST by Melpomene (Proud member of the Who Dat nation.)
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To: Lazamataz

Went to read the article. All I got to read was this;

“Page Unavailable
The page you’ve requested either does not exist or is currently unavailable.”


47 posted on 01/31/2011 7:44:08 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Melpomene

It IS gone. Maybe they finally got a single millisecond of shame over there.


48 posted on 01/31/2011 7:52:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

Nick Baumann is an assistant editor for Mother Jones magazine

49 posted on 01/31/2011 7:53:20 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Lazamataz; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Never mind; I googled it and got to it via Mother Jones.


50 posted on 01/31/2011 7:54:45 AM PST by Melpomene (Proud member of the Who Dat nation.)
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