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Electrifying electric car news (batteries run down more quickly in cold weather)
American Thinker ^ | 01/31/2011 | Ethel C. Fenig

Posted on 01/31/2011 7:40:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Edited on 01/31/2011 7:44:41 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I counted my blessings. The situation could have been worse, I realized: My fellow commuters and I could have been trying to make it home in electric cars, like the ones President Obama is constantly promoting, most recently in his State of the Union address.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: batteries; bloggersandpersonal; electriccars; environmentalism; globalcooling; greencar
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, you know what might be *really* efficient?

Instead of burning fuel at a power plant then converting that into electricity, then losing some in the power lines, then converting that electricity back into heat, why don’t we just burn fuel in the engine so that we can use the waste heat of combustion to warm the interior!

I wonder why hasn’t anyone ever thought of doing...oh, wait.


21 posted on 01/31/2011 8:22:51 AM PST by Claud
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To: antiRepublicrat

The USG is now spending about 250million to install charging stations in CA, LA and SD plus some other cities and states where the weather is good to help the electric car program along. Plus handing out tax credits, plus the broke states are giving cash rebates.
I listened to a presentation by one of the Beltway Bandits on the charging station program. Even in CA, in the winter when it is down to 40-50 the batteries loose a large percentage of their power output. It will be interesting to see how many of these Leafs(all electric) you see stalled along the freeways next year.


22 posted on 01/31/2011 8:25:25 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: and so?
On the positive side, I enjoyed the humor, but there are probably many who will have a negative reaction to the joke.

Ion the other hand enjoy keeping up with current events, and got a charge out of it.

23 posted on 01/31/2011 8:26:00 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: WellyP
Battery capacity is reduced by 50% at -22 degrees F - but battery LIFE increases by about 60%.

So, it still won't start your car, but you can listen to it go RawrRawrRawrRawrRawr for up to 60% longer!

24 posted on 01/31/2011 8:29:29 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Two atoms were moving down the street one day in one of the new electric cars, when one of them exclaimed, “Oh no - I’ve lost an electron!” “Are you sure?” the other one asked. “Yes,” replied the first one, “I’m positive.”


25 posted on 01/31/2011 8:31:09 AM PST by and so? (If it angers you, a sarcasm or irony tag after everything I post should be assumed)
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To: wjcsux
"That Physics thing ought to be against the law."

I work in SW Texas and the laws of physics seem to be on holiday more often than not.......:-)

26 posted on 01/31/2011 8:37:37 AM PST by sniper63 (Did you plug the hole in the border yet daddy........)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can you say CLUELESS?

As Rush says regularly, with Libs it's never about results--or unintended consequences--but all about their "Good Intentions," dontcha know?

Anyone who has ever lived in cold climes and was over the age of reason, could have figured that one out.

Even with a BRAND NEW (2 mos old) battery, last week when it was 20 below here in the Socialist People's Republic of Utopian Moonbats (VT) my ride turned over....as all of my vehicles I've owned for the past 50 years...velllllly slowly before finally catching and starting and the service stations were so inundated with calls re: cars not starting, there was a 3 hour waiting time for service calls.

I can just imagine what this kind of weather would do to an electric car.

Never mind, cuz I'll NEVER know...at least personally.

Now for the Einstein Award, I nominate.......!

27 posted on 01/31/2011 8:39:01 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: SeekAndFind; Admin Moderator

Wow, for a moment I thought the moderators were charging this thread with conductive criticism...


28 posted on 01/31/2011 8:39:41 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("To Serve Manatee" is a cookbook!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A post yesterday boasted of an all electric car in England made a trip in 4 days with 9 - 10 hour recharging stops, the same trip was 2 days in a stagecoach.


29 posted on 01/31/2011 8:40:15 AM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Claud

Nailed.

You read my mind.


30 posted on 01/31/2011 8:42:04 AM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: Foolsgold

Better Amish than Electric!!!!


31 posted on 01/31/2011 9:09:25 AM PST by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: Lou L

1. Re-introduce vent windows. Opening vent windows past half-way procuced ram-cooling, a “poor man’s air conditioning” common in cars up to the 1960’s.

2. Go back to the hand operated windshield wipers in the early jeeps.

3. Provide a tray to lay a battery-powered radio.


32 posted on 01/31/2011 9:11:27 AM PST by catman67
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To: catman67
"3. Provide a tray to lay a battery-powered radio."

Boy, does that bring back memories.

Way back when I was young and poor I had a 74 VW Beetle with a radio that didn't work. I had a battery-powered radio that I would lay in the passenger seat when I went on a trip. Even rebuilt the engine once with hand-tools in the garage. Didn't know what I was doing, but it ran.

I think I put about 200K miles on that bug. Don't know for sure because the odometer was broken and the gas gauge didn't work either. I would estimate miles driven, estimate mpg and fill-up as necessary. Don't think I ran out of gas more than once or twice.

Had a little street-header on it and a deep sump oil reservoir with a filter. Put some 225/R15 tires on the back to reduce rpm's and left the little tires on the front because they drove the speedo. That was about the only thing that did work. I would just buzz on down the road for hours driving around western OK for my job with my 10-speed on a bike rack on the back bumper.

Oh to be young and foolish again. Well, young anyway. I think I still have most of the foolishness... :-)

33 posted on 01/31/2011 9:30:02 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, you mean like regular car batteries have been doing for, well, since we’ve had regular car batteries?


34 posted on 01/31/2011 9:40:02 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmit in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not that I would buy a Volt, but just to be fair, the Volt underwent extensive very cold weather testing.

http://gm-volt.com/2010/02/23/chevy-volt-cold-weather-testing-update/


35 posted on 01/31/2011 9:48:34 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: SeekAndFind
and add to that heavy snow conditions, windshield wipers flapping and the heater in your car running full blast.

They can keep their electric cars.....

36 posted on 01/31/2011 9:52:24 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Oh Magoo, you've done it again.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our desert heat kills batteries. Around these parts a ‘premium’ 5 to 7 year warranted battery usually doesn’t make 3. I tend to replace them even before they show any signs of stress, because when they crap out, they crap out NOW...


37 posted on 01/31/2011 9:57:25 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The volt reminds me of the Chevette. GM had to have a small car to compete with the Japanese small cars. Only they forgot the reason was fuel economy so they took a truck chassis and scaled it down to small car size. Ours got about 23 mpg and finally died on the highway when the transistor burned up (the high tech Chevette had a single power transistor to run the engine).


38 posted on 01/31/2011 10:01:12 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: catman67
Re-introduce vent windows. Opening vent windows past half-way procuced ram-cooling, a “poor man’s air conditioning” common in cars up to the 1960’s

Your ideas really represent a leap forward, don't they? Civilization will be better off with such marvels!

1. I remember the days of "side-vents," and even moving along at highway speeds, "cooling" was negligible. I do remember the noise it made--and while the driver or front-seat passenger might feel some warm air blowing on them, there was none in the back seat. If you're not moving at highway speeds--such as when you're stuck in city traffic--the vents offer nothing in terms of cooling.

2. We are introducing legislation as to punish those who text or read e-mails while driving because they're too distracting, and yet you want to have hand-operated windshield wipers?

3. A tray for a radio? Why not install a wheel for a gerbil to run on? If the gerbil's fast enough, it may be able to power the radio AND the manual windshield wipers.

39 posted on 01/31/2011 11:28:51 AM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: bgill

Then the wise voters in WV elected a Demoncrat to replace KKK Byrd...and he is a faithful Obama supporter....wow, what an electorate!


40 posted on 01/31/2011 11:49:29 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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