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President Is Likely to Discuss Gun Control Soon
NY Times ^ | January 28, 2011 | JACKIE CALMES

Posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:22 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON — Administration officials say that President Obama, largely silent about gun control since the Tucson shooting carnage, will address the issue soon, potentially reopening a long-dormant debate on one of the nation’s most politically volatile issues.

The officials did not indicate what measures, if any, Mr. Obama might support; with Republicans in control of the House and many Democrats fearful of the gun lobby’s power, any legislation faces long odds for passage. Among the skeptics is the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada.

Still, Mr. Obama has come under increased pressure to speak out from gun-control advocates, including urban Democrats in Congress and liberal activists and editorial writers. They would like him to at least support a bill that would restore an expired federal ban on the sort of high-capacity ammunition magazine that was used in the Jan. 8 shootings in Tucson that killed six people and injured 13, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords, Democrat of Arizona.

The advocates, including Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York, were critical after Mr. Obama did not propose any measures in his State of the Union address Tuesday night to address gun violence. In interviews since, senior White House advisers have said without specifics that Mr. Obama would address the issue in coming weeks, though just how has not been decided.

“I wouldn’t rule out that at some point the president talks about the issues surrounding gun violence,” Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, told reporters on Wednesday. “I don’t have a timetable or, obviously, what he would say.”

David Axelrod, a senior adviser to the president, separately told reporters that Mr. Obama would “no doubt” speak out before long.

Mr. Bloomberg, who is co-chairman of a group called Mayors Against Illegal Guns, said in his weekly radio address on...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; democrats; donttreadonme; guncontrol; liberalfascism; maig; maigwatch; obama; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny
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Good, let the rats rejoin what's been a losing issue for them.
1 posted on 01/31/2011 6:59:29 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Well, if the NYT says it....


2 posted on 01/31/2011 7:01:38 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: neverdem
I guess this is part of the laser like focus on the “Jobs, Jobs, Jobs” agenda.
3 posted on 01/31/2011 7:02:20 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: neverdem
He can talk about it all he wants.

2A says he can't do a damn thing about it.

Of course, they can just do what they've been doing since 1934 and just ignore that ol' Constitution thingie... After all, what are we gonna do about it? File a complaint with Eric Holder?

4 posted on 01/31/2011 7:03:13 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: neverdem
Maybe he is trying to push the UN mandate so when the muzzies take over the US, they will not meet with any resistance.
5 posted on 01/31/2011 7:03:51 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: neverdem

Urban gun control advocates?
Okay, we’ll ban guns in urban areas and see how well that works out......


6 posted on 01/31/2011 7:03:53 PM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: neverdem

Why are Chrissy Matthews and the rest of the rats busy floating this trial balloon? They’re making a huge deal out of something that zer0 hasn’t said anything about.

After all that’s happened recently that shooting seems like it happened a couple years ago now. The issue has really died down.


7 posted on 01/31/2011 7:04:36 PM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: neverdem
I recall a WSJ article, about 20 years ago. It was on how pols distract
from the real problems.

In that case if was how Bill Bennett, as SecEd, brought up gun control
to distract from the inability to take on the Education
Establishment to fix the schools.

8 posted on 01/31/2011 7:05:26 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

nobama...get your birth-certificate-less hands off my 2nd Amendment rights, you Constitution hater.


9 posted on 01/31/2011 7:07:38 PM PST by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: neverdem

If Hussein starts talking gun control, watch how fast guns and ammo go flying off the shelves. I think people instinctively know that Soetoro is, at his core, a socialist dictator and any talk about gun control by him is a prelude to an outright ban. He’s already proven in speeches (”The constitution is a list of NEGATIVE rights”) and actions (the whole sleazy way 0bamacare was shoehorned through congress) that he cares nothing for the constitution. So, people are slowly wising up to his real agenda.


10 posted on 01/31/2011 7:08:19 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: kingattax

#12 Nail In The Coffin PING!! The kiss of death. Do it Obozo, do it and we will get rid of you like Hosni.


11 posted on 01/31/2011 7:09:17 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: neverdem; therightliveswithus; norwaypinesavage; Dead Corpse; NY Attitude; Red Badger; bereanway; ..

Incredible, what we’ve got heah is the spectacle of Obama being rolled by the Lefty Journolist establishment. They are still in teeth-gnashing mode and they’re determined to make some political hay out of the Tucson tragedy So now they are reduced to trying to pressure him into engaging in a public attack on the 2nd amendment, presumably straight out of Michael Douglas in the culminating scene of “The American President”.

He’s got absolutely nothing to win here and he can’t spare the political capital to burn.


12 posted on 01/31/2011 7:12:44 PM PST by sinanju
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To: neverdem

Barry is going for the “Gun Saleman of the Year” award again for the third year in a row. Well, it sure beats the hell out of that phonyass Nobel. They give that crap to every weirdo that comes down the pike.


13 posted on 01/31/2011 7:13:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If ObamaCare is so great, why is Barry giving waivers to all of his friends, donors and supporters?)
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To: NY Attitude
Maybe he is trying to push the UN mandate so when the muzzies take over the US, they will not meet with any resistance.

That's hilarious. He can try pushing it. Then he can try shoving it.

14 posted on 01/31/2011 7:15:32 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: neverdem

Do it Barry and we’ll start talking about impeachment and life in prison for high-treason.


15 posted on 01/31/2011 7:15:59 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: neverdem
They would like him to at least support a bill that would restore an expired federal ban on the sort of high-capacity ammunition magazine that was used in the Jan. 8 shootings in Tucson that killed six people and injured 13, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords, Democrat of Arizona.

It's going to pass. At least 50 RINOs will vote for the McCarthy-Lautenberg bill.

16 posted on 01/31/2011 7:18:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: neverdem

Why just discuss gun control, why not send Janetalia out to “grab them?”


17 posted on 01/31/2011 7:18:34 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Well, it sure beats the hell out of that phonyass Nobel. They give that crap to every weirdo that comes down the pike.”

That’s crazy talk, I got one today for getting the oil changed in my old truck. And by golly, I deserved it!!


18 posted on 01/31/2011 7:21:33 PM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: davetex

LOL! Dang that one cost you some money. Barry got his by just showing up, at taxpayer expense, in Oslo.


19 posted on 01/31/2011 7:23:32 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If ObamaCare is so great, why is Barry giving waivers to all of his friends, donors and supporters?)
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To: Travis McGee

It will die in committee in the House.


20 posted on 01/31/2011 7:25:50 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
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21 posted on 01/31/2011 7:27:01 PM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: neverdem

The kenyan still doesn’t understand this country and it’s natural born citizens.

OK barry, bring it.

It will only destroy what’s left of the marxist party.

Proud gun owner since 1970. Age 8. First firearm, a bolt action .22. Multiple others since. Got training from the best in the world, BSA and USMC. Never been in trouble with the law, but somehow a threat to this regime. Wonder why.


22 posted on 01/31/2011 7:27:54 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: neverdem

Zero bringing up `gun control’ after seeing his national health care (one-and-only) triumph being dismantled state-by-state, man ... that would be, that would be something like a tactic his fellow nation of Islam brothers like to use: set off a bomb, then when the survivors are being attended to by responders, set off another bomb!
That would be perfect: an L-shaped ambush, followed by another. But even Barry isn’t stupid enough to walk into it. Is he? Chrissie, Bloomsie and every other lefty, but the head Bill of Rights Hater?
Hmmmmm ... maybe he is that stupid. We can only hope!


23 posted on 01/31/2011 7:29:16 PM PST by tumblindice (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, you do that.
Just keep pushing Mojambo.

Have you forgotten Nov you narcissistic loon?


24 posted on 01/31/2011 7:30:09 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 ~ Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: DarthVader

I don’t think so. The MSM is going to package and promote it as a “sane, responsible step.” Any Republican who stands in its way is going to be lambasted 24/7, with his photo between Cho and Loughner.

“Why does Congressman Smith want madmen to have easy access to these massacre-making 30 round clips?!”

Even “conservatives” like Dick “Shotgun” Cheney are on record saying “we don’t need these high capacity magazines.”


25 posted on 01/31/2011 7:30:40 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: neverdem
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26 posted on 01/31/2011 7:31:41 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Travis McGee
It's going to pass. At least 50 RINOs will vote for the McCarthy-Lautenberg bill.

I don't think Dingy Harry will bring it to the Floor, and if he does, I don't think he can get 60 votes to end debate. Most of the House RINOs were knocked out out in 2006 & 2008. Most of the Tea Party nominees are pretty conservative in 2010, IMHO.

27 posted on 01/31/2011 7:31:49 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: NY Attitude
Maybe he is trying to push the UN mandate so when the muzzies take over the US, they will not meet with any resistance.

I think what you said is probably closest to the true goal than anyone realizes. All anyone with a half a brain has to do is review the past couple of years of this marxist.

If anyone truly believes that the Egypt situation happened on its 'own', better rethink that as well. The projection for the Middle East sounds close to a domino scenario. And in the meantime, we are being 'fed' everything but the truth and distracted with b.s.

28 posted on 01/31/2011 7:32:48 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: neverdem

Enough high-profile “conservatives” are on record saying, “We don’t need these high capacity magazines,” to give cover to squishy RINOs.

This bill is going to pass.


29 posted on 01/31/2011 7:33:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: neverdem

They have a new human prop they can exploit to the hilt.

It’s going to be a reprehensible display of emotional politics at its worst.


30 posted on 01/31/2011 7:34:40 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Travis McGee

It’s DOA what the Speaker says goes:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655432/posts


31 posted on 01/31/2011 7:37:04 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: therightliveswithus
The republicans need to take this bull by the horns and beat the totus to the podium. Perhaps calling a presser and stating that gun violence is out of hand and that measures are needed to reign it in. Then unveil the conservative bill that would protect all law-abiding citizen's rights for gun ownership and lawful self-defense. Instead of playing defense, we should play offense. Crazies like the nutjob in AZ are a danger to the public and Americans should be allowed to arm and defend themselves, not to be disarmed by idiot liberal politicians. Instead of calling for more controls on the law abiding citizens. They should step up and call for national rights for easier acquisition of firearms as well as federal castle doctrine legislation that would prevent gun owners from being persecuted by anti-gun LEOs and anti-gun politicians. Also call for increased prosecution of gun crimes by criminals. A “project exile” on the national level. The republicans can introduce the bill and let the liberals either sign on or show their true colors and vote against it. If they shoot it down. It would make good campaign commercials for the 2012 elections.
32 posted on 01/31/2011 7:37:25 PM PST by BOBWADE
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To: DTogo; neverdem
Why just discuss gun control, why not send Janetalia out to “grab them?”

Funny. I read that and I thought "It's gonna take balls to come after my guns!!!"

33 posted on 01/31/2011 7:39:29 PM PST by bigheadfred (THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE HAS BEGUN)
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To: neverdem
The AWB of 1994 gave us the 1994 Republican "takeover" of Congress.

Bring. It. On.

34 posted on 01/31/2011 7:42:46 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: neverdem
 

35 posted on 01/31/2011 7:44:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: neverdem

Not a great idea to go there Mr. Resident.

Watching Cairo, wondering if it could happen here, knowing we have R2KBA. Take away 2nd Amendment, Cairo will look like a teddy bears picnic.


36 posted on 01/31/2011 7:47:27 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: DTogo

There will be a lot of “boating accidents” with everything aboard lost.


37 posted on 01/31/2011 7:47:27 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: neverdem
What the hell does BHO know about hitting ANYTHING with a firearm?

Perhaps he should learn about them before he talks to us about gun control.

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38 posted on 01/31/2011 7:49:50 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Travis McGee

Two things, brother:

1) Please stop doom talking the platoon. :)

2) Positive energy often nets results. Warnings are fine, but work like hell now. Remember, we thought it was all over for semi’s after the AWB — and it’s GONE.


39 posted on 01/31/2011 7:50:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Travis McGee

I read the spring in the second High capacity magazine failed.


40 posted on 01/31/2011 7:56:26 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: FlyingEagle

“Cairo will look like a teddy bears picnic.”

Exactly we’ll make DC look like 1788 Paris.


41 posted on 01/31/2011 7:56:51 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: neverdem

Let Barry open mouth and insert foot. Let him alienate even more voters.


42 posted on 01/31/2011 7:57:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: neverdem

I suspect it will be changing ATF rules or an executive order. Laws won’t work right now.


43 posted on 01/31/2011 8:02:47 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: sinanju
Incredible, what we’ve got heah is the spectacle of Obama being rolled by the Lefty Journolist establishment.

Exactly. The "Fourth Estate" will not be denied. Amazingly, the Executive and Legislative branches of our government are giving ground. I've believed that the mainstream media was at the top of our Domestic Enemies list for around ten years now.

This, above all else, must chance.

44 posted on 01/31/2011 8:05:59 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Lazamataz
Good points Laz. And this is from a confirmed pessimist.
45 posted on 01/31/2011 8:06:57 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Let him do an executive order and watch him get his a$$ impeached faster than crap can go through a goose.


46 posted on 01/31/2011 8:11:24 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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47 posted on 01/31/2011 8:18:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: BOBWADE

Amen and nationalize the “home is your castle defense” along with stringent tort reform that takes power away from loonie lefty lawyers literally lactating at large litigation awards.


48 posted on 01/31/2011 8:24:41 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: Vendome

That should go over big in the religion forum.


49 posted on 01/31/2011 8:26:09 PM PST by decimon
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To: neverdem

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


50 posted on 01/31/2011 8:28:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Lincoln)
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