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1 posted on 02/01/2011 10:12:16 AM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 02/01/2011 10:17:30 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Let’s hope they do the right thing with it.

Ha ha ha ha ha

3 posted on 02/01/2011 10:49:08 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: neverdem

I guess this ultra-strict gun control in NJ must be the reason they have no gun crime there


4 posted on 02/01/2011 10:50:31 AM PST by Mr. K (Empty, Stupid Happy Talk is NOT 'Reaganesque'!)
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To: neverdem
With its hands tied, the jury found Aitken guilty in August 2010.

There's your problem right there. The jury's hands weren't tied. They could have acquitted, but the judge suckered them into believing they had to follow his instructions to the letter.

5 posted on 02/01/2011 10:56:37 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: neverdem

FU New jersey ! No one can pay me enough money to live there !


6 posted on 02/01/2011 10:57:27 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: neverdem

FU New Jersey ! No one can pay me enough money to live there or even travel through there !


7 posted on 02/01/2011 10:58:11 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: neverdem

“It shouldn’t take federal oversight, however, to prevent states from locking up innocent people. The ball is in the state government’s court. Let’s hope they do the right thing with it.”

New jersey has never done the right thing when it comes to guns. Several decades ago a man was en-route to Europe to engage in international competition. He jumped through every hoop the airline and New Jersey put him through. In spite of that he was arrested and locked up.

I had promised myself at the time never to use American Airlines again because of the slimy role they played in the incident. The guy was eventually released but over a year later he still had not gotten his guns back. (These were rifles, not handguns, which shouldn’t matter except in that miserable state.)

If you want to see how effective these laws are in protecting the people take a look at the gun related homicide rate in Newark, as one example. I lived in Pennsylvania and often traversed New Jersey to get to the shore. I will never forget the trip I made to go deep sea fishing when I realized that I had a box of shot shells in my trunk. (I shot trap twice a week at that time in Bucks County, PA.)

Those shells could have gotten me jail time in New Jersey. I despise that state and the legislators of both Parties who are responsible for its anti-gun laws and policies. Include Chris Cristy in their numbers.


9 posted on 02/01/2011 11:12:48 AM PST by SkipW
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To: neverdem
with friends like these, who needs enemies ???

author begins by stating that 'non-infringing' gun laws are a MUST, then bemoans the inevitable when the system screws the citizenry ???

and please, anyone who sits on a jury like brian aitken had, N-U-L-L-I-F-I-C-A-T-I-O-N...

10 posted on 02/01/2011 12:10:36 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower

Amazing that this can happen in the USA. USSA?

(Why any gun owner or lover of liberty would choose to reside in NJ is beyond me.)


12 posted on 02/01/2011 3:49:21 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic is now on Kindle.)
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To: neverdem
Bramnick says it’s difficult to draft a law that will give leniency in sympathetic cases, while still being tough on people who keep guns with them for illegal purposes.

Here is the rub, and the nub.

The people who wrote the tough law assumed that they were writing the law for unsympathetic characters carrying for felonious purposes. But unless the enforcing LEO has a mindreading machine, how do you solve the equation "man + pistol = x"?

Police are forced by the black-letter law to apply it to guys it was never intended to penalize.

In fact, it's possible to hypothecate that any number of black guys are in prison for carrying, when their problem was that a) they were black, b) they were in possession, and c) they had ugly friends with records, or who were bangers -- even though they themselves were clean and had committed no crime and had no felonious intent, other than transporting their pieces from Point A to Point B. "Driving while black" applies here, and is precisely the kind of civil-liberties problem that both the 2nd and 14th Amendments were written to forefend.

13 posted on 02/01/2011 4:10:59 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: neverdem
{Art.} .....In early 2008, however, then-governor Jon Corzine signed an amendment to the law.....

Gay liberalism. The gift that keeps on giving ..... piles.

14 posted on 02/01/2011 4:14:14 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: neverdem
[Art.] Up until the point that they infringe on the Second Amendment, New Jersey’s lawmakers have every right to pass restrictive gun laws.

Oh, really? That idea sure needs a court test. Try "we're going to make Republicanism illegal, but only because it's so bad for you!" How does that parse?

But you object when the restrictions bite people you don't actively dislike, or assume are involved in crime.

This whole article is about the heartache of trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. My post 13 above applies. Infringe people's rights, and inevitably you wind up screwing someone and crying out, "oh, I didn't mean to!"

Punish the crime, not possession of a tool.

15 posted on 02/01/2011 4:25:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: neverdem
"In New Jersey, residents are forbidden to have their guns with them outside their homes"

Being resident of the PRNJ, I am all too familiar with the draconian restrictions placed on law-abiding firearms owners. That being said, I have never had a problem transporting a handgun via airline. I have taken a handgun with me on flights out of and back into NJ all without incident. Lots of hoops to jump through, but no problems. Granted; I have never taken a firearm on a flight in our out of Newark, so I don't know if they are more 'sensitive' there.

16 posted on 02/01/2011 5:55:02 PM PST by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: neverdem
There is a reason the Sopranos is set in Joisey.
18 posted on 02/02/2011 7:06:31 AM PST by ExSoldier (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.)
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