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Somewhat puzzling they're going to court-martial after Army psychiartrists have diagnosed Pfc. Lawrence with schizophrenia.
1 posted on 02/01/2011 10:58:27 AM PST by jazusamo
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Pfc. David Lawrence Ping!


2 posted on 02/01/2011 11:01:18 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

He killed a Taliban leader? Give him a frigging medal.


3 posted on 02/01/2011 11:17:56 AM PST by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: All; Sprite518
Background on case thanks to Sprite518:

ANOTHER SOLDIER FIGHTS FOR HIS FREEDOM -- PLEASE HELP!
Michael Savage ^ | Michael Savage

Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:58:48 PM by Sprite518

PFC David W. Lawrence is an American soldier from Indiana. He is the son of Brett and Wendy Lawrence. David is 20 years old.

PFC Lawrence is accused of premeditated murder for the alleged shooting of Mullah Muhibullah on Oct. 17 while guarding him in Kandahar province, Afghanistan. Mullah Muhibullah was a senior Taliban commander and had been captured by U.S. forces the day before his death. Muhibullah's death was announced by an angry Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Oct. 19. Formal charges were filed against PFC Lawrence the same day, Oct. 19.

PFC Lawrence was medivaced out of Afghanistan on Oct. 24, and he arrived at Fort Carson, Colo. on Nov. 6. Though the Army had ordered a sanity inquiry on Nov. 5 to determine PFC Lawrence’s mental status and whether he is suffering from a major mental defect or disease, the Army decided not to wait for that answer before initiating the court-martial process in PFC Lawrence’s case. When the Army scheduled PFC Lawrence’s Article 32 Investigation (the equivalent to a preliminary hearing) for Nov. 29, the defense submitted two separate requests for a delay to enable the psychiatrists to determine PFC Lawrence’s mental status. Both delay requests were denied.

"We are going to an Article 32 for a kid who is hearing voices," James Culp, PFC Lawrence's attorney, said. The Article 32 Investigation proceeded on Nov. 29 and 30. As a result of his medication regiment, which includes the strongest does available of the drug prescribed for the treatment of schizophrenia, PFC Lawrence regularly fell asleep during the legal hearing that would ultimately decide if he will be court-martialed for premeditated murder. The "minimum" sentence for premeditated murder in the U.S. military is confinement for life. The maximum sentence is the death by execution.

Mr. Culp also said he was concerned the Army might be rushing the case to court-martial to appease Karzai. On Dec. 3, President Barak Obama made a surprise visit to Afghanistan to calm the tensions between the U.S. and Afghanistan that had been exacerbated by the killing of Taliban Commander Mullah Muhibullah. On the same day it was reported by Reuters that President Karzai and his brother have received large payments from the Taliban for the release of key Taliban prisoners. Coincidentally, on July 7, 2007, the Pajhwok Afghan News Agency reported that Muhibullah, Mullah Omar’s secretary, had already been captured. Neither U.S. nor Afghanistan officials have released any information about the process by which Muhibullah re-entered the stream of insurgency to kill and maim U.S. forces fighting in Afghanistan.

Less than a week before the shooting, PFC Lawrence was examined by psychiatrists and given drugs for depression and sleeplessness. Days later, he was put on guard duty at a detention center in the Arghandab district of Kandahar province, despite having no training for it.

Even before David requested to be taken for treatment to a combat stress clinic in Kandahar, David was reporting to his mother and father that he was hearing voices that were “freaking him out.” David subsequently reported to his family that his reoccurring hallucinations include seeing soldiers who had died in Afghanistan, including Capt. Dale Goetz. He told his father "... he could see the chaplain with only half a head remaining," Capt. Dale Goetz was a chaplain in the 4th Infantry Division for the 66th Armor Regiment’s 1st Battalion based out of Ft. Carson, Colorado. Capt. Goetz is the first Army chaplain killed in combat in 40 years. Capt. Goetz was David's friend. It was a known fact that David was closer to the chaplain than anyone else in the platoon.

This young man comes from a wonderful family and has very loving, caring parents who are undoubtedly afraid of what lies ahead. This is going to be a lengthy battle. Costs for specialists, travels to and from Colorado and all the costs involved with repeated weeklong stays there, medical evaluations and doctors are adding up.

This family needs help. Please show your support of PFC David Lawrence by making a contribution to his defense fund:

United Community Bank 19710 Stateline Road Lawrenceburg, IN 47025

Please make checks payable to "FOB PFC David W. Lawrence" Contributions can also be sent via paypal using the e-mail address: pfcdavidlawrence@yahoo.com

Any contribution, no matter how small is huge to the Lawrence family. Please keep PFC Lawrence and family in your prayers.


4 posted on 02/01/2011 11:30:12 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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so we now have soldiers performing executions without trial.

I wonder how many other soldiers will be killed or wounded due to this stupid act.

This war is corrupting our troops. This was an act of indiscipline. And some supposed ‘patriots’ think its ok.


6 posted on 02/01/2011 11:39:17 AM PST by rahbert
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To: jazusamo
" Carson soldier to face court martial for Afghan murder--"

The U.S. military continues to turn on its own. It's sad how far we've come from the generation of our fathers and grandfathers.

I was watching The Military Channel last night, it followed several veterans of the D-day invasion to the sights they fought on at Normandy. It showed lots of brutal footage as they interviewed the courageous American WWII heros. Two of those veterans said rather matter-of-factly, with confident smiles, that there were times when "I shot at whatever moved". Just imagine if our leaders gave this sort of liberty to our well trained soldiers. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would have been over long ago. Instead, we let our guys get shot at and killed as they're going through various channels to get permission to shoot back. Then they are commanded to treat the worst of the worst Taliban prisoners with kid gloves, and to repsect their barbaric religion which caused all this chaos in the first place.

Just a footnote, I'd like to thank that soldier who killed the Taliban leader. The Taliban are among, if not the most brutal, cold blooded murderers on earth. Their leaders should be executed when caught, as a merciful act to each and every Afghan citizen who must live in mortal fear of being chopped to pieces at any time by these scum.

7 posted on 02/01/2011 11:40:09 AM PST by jiminycricket000
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To: jazusamo

The Left is determined to prosecute SOMEONE in the military for some kind of torture/war crimes


12 posted on 02/01/2011 12:04:04 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Think. It isn't illegal yet.)
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