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PPP: Obama leads Palin by eight in South Dakota?
hotair.com ^ | 2-1-11 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/01/2011 7:43:18 PM PST by Justaham

I’m highly skeptical — this is a state the GOP’s won in every election since 1964 — but their sample doesn’t seem obviously skewed to me. The partisan breakdown is 48R/38D/14I; the sample in the state’s 2008 exit poll on election day was 42R/36D/22I. If anything, PPP skewed too heavily towards Republicans. The ideological sample is similarly in line. For PPP, it’s 43 percent conservative, 44 percent moderate, and 13 percent liberal. In 2008 on election day, the exit poll had it 35 percent conservative, 50 percent moderate, and 15 percent liberal. Again, PPP’s numbers tilt against Obama. And their polling of hypothetical Romney/Obama and Huckabee/Obama races seems credible. Mitt leads 46/40 and Huck leads 47/41 in a state McCain won by eight points.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: allahpundit4romney; dailykos9thread; freepressforpalin; johnthune; obama; palin; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 02/01/2011 7:43:21 PM PST by Justaham
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To: Justaham

As a Palin supporter I’d love to see her doing better in the polls, but I don’t care. She needs to run and give Obama and the libs a heart attack. It’s going to be a longshot whoever we run against him so it may as well be on principle. Plus anything can happen, right now most people probably don’t even think she is running.


2 posted on 02/01/2011 7:47:13 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: Justaham

Must be sexism < /sarc >


3 posted on 02/01/2011 7:47:13 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Justaham
Just for the record, South Dakota gave us George McGovern and Tom D'asshole.

Not exactly the Annual Mensa Picnic up there.

4 posted on 02/01/2011 7:47:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Justaham

She’s been Quayled. That’s why she’s tanking. Which is a good thing because she is more valuable as a barnstormer/fundraiser for candidates this coming election.


5 posted on 02/01/2011 7:48:19 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Justaham

Indians??? I have noticed a couple of times while driving through S.D. that there are a bunch of public service announcements on radio stations about get signed up for this ... are you collecting your ________?


6 posted on 02/01/2011 7:49:30 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

LOL


7 posted on 02/01/2011 7:49:45 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
She’s been Quayled. That’s why she’s tanking.

I'd have to agree. The antidote to that is to have a larger-than-life stage presence (Reagan) or to have Ivy League degrees (GWB had Yale and Harvard). Even Reagan had to wait until he was almost 70 to be elected president. My guess is that if Palin wants to become president, she'll have to spend more than the decade she has in politics. Maybe after she wrests the Senate seat away from Murkowski.

8 posted on 02/01/2011 7:55:12 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always)
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To: Justaham

The 2012 campaign is scary. I’m not seeing anyone on the GOP side that has a real credible chance at overcoming the machine that will be 0bama’s campaign. He MUST be voted out of office to minimize the already great damage he has done to our country.

If given a second term, it will take a generation or more to undo what he would leave us with.


9 posted on 02/01/2011 7:55:47 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: toddausauras

This is much ado about nothing.


10 posted on 02/01/2011 7:56:32 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: OrangeHoof

If you don’t think part of it is sexism on the media’s part you’re delusional. Chris Matthews and Olbermann can tell you more.


11 posted on 02/01/2011 7:56:36 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: pissant
Palin Country.

This is a Pro-Palin website. They only one tanking is you and your Palin vitriol. You lose, this website is Pro-Palin in that she will be the Republican Nominee. Quit bashing her already. It's disgusting how much you bash her.

What part of this picture don't you get? Free Republic supports Sarah Palin. The lame 'quayled' line is pathetic. It's obvious Sarah Palin comes from a very educated family and is very well spoken. How are you unable to comprehend that freerepublic.com is Palin Country?

12 posted on 02/01/2011 7:57:23 PM PST by train
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To: pissant
I don't think so.

At this point, polls are meaningless (remember Kerry in ‘04 and both Obama and McCain in ‘08).

Quayle was never a charismatic candidate and in contrast to Gov. Palin, wasn't clever enough to play the media.

Gov. Palin would carry the Conservative vote and would likely bring new people to the voting booth.

One thing for sure, the opposition still seems most concerned with Gov. Palin. They must have a reason.

13 posted on 02/01/2011 7:58:30 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Zhang Fei
Maybe after she wrests the Senate seat away from Murkowski

Now yer talking. Actually, the other democrat schmuck senator will be up for re-election first. In 2014.

14 posted on 02/01/2011 7:58:39 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Justaham

This will make the election night victory speech even sweeter.


15 posted on 02/01/2011 7:59:48 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: train
she will be the Republican Nominee

Good luck with that. She likely won't even run.

16 posted on 02/01/2011 8:00:16 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Rational Thought

They are meaningless, but in SD? With two candidates with equal name ID?


17 posted on 02/01/2011 8:00:59 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: toddausauras

Once again.....early polls are historically meaningless, even if they are true (PPP is an liberal polling group btw)

These polls are keen to pre-season college basketball polls - they don’t mean anything until you play the actual game (primaries, general)

1.Guliani had a whopping 40% among a crowded field in early polls in 2007

2. Paul Tsongas was the guy in 1991, Bush Sr had a 90% approval, Clinton was in the middle of the pack

3. Reagan got so much bad news, that he was going to lose his own primary in CA, He would lose to Ted Kennedy - People wanted Gerald Ford instead of Reagan in 1980 because they bought the MSM lie that he was another Goldwater disaster - 8 months before the general elections polls had him losing to Carter by 25 points


18 posted on 02/01/2011 8:02:33 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Justaham

The left has done a very good job of demonizing her and influencing the sheep/MTV crowd.


19 posted on 02/01/2011 8:03:53 PM PST by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: Justaham

The womans negatives have always been below obamma and her would not support has gone from 26% to 33%: there is just no way around those facts, but feel free keep butting your heads against the wall, long time to election.


20 posted on 02/01/2011 8:05:56 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: train
It's disgusting how much you bash her.

Pissant and I have had our disagreements in the past, but this time I agree with him. BTW, you seem to be quite the drama queen for a newbie.

21 posted on 02/01/2011 8:06:13 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: ChiMark
This is much ado about nothing.

Of course. Sarah will crush him in a Reagan-style landslide.

Once the public sees her in the Republican debates, without the media filter, they'll love her, just like they loved Reagan.

Compare her warmth and humor to his monotonous drone. Huge charisma gap.

22 posted on 02/01/2011 8:06:26 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: pissant

Good luck with your Palin bashing and lasting on freerepublic.com . She will be the 2012 Nominee.

Libs will do everything in their power to stop it, but they won’t be able to. Haaaaa You are becoming known as the #1 Palin basher on FR... keep the putting the spotlight on yourself. Obama is already in full campaign mode because that’s all he knows, campaign mode. He knows he’s toast in the next election, cuz Sarah won’t be intimidated and won’t back down.


23 posted on 02/01/2011 8:07:37 PM PST by train
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To: pissant
Don't worry PA, they're doing the same thing to Bachmann as we speak.

I guess we had better get used to Liberals picking our Candidates, right? Time to send a Thank You note to Governor Palin for all her wasted time and energy.

Gee, I wonder who they will “Quayle” next. I guess FR should just be a place to discuss Recipes and the Weather now that we don't have to worry about who will be our Candidate in 2012.

24 posted on 02/01/2011 8:08:09 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: Justaham

Democrat pollster ping.


25 posted on 02/01/2011 8:08:33 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: train

How old are you? 15?


26 posted on 02/01/2011 8:08:50 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
"She’s been Quayled. That’s why she’s tanking. Which is a good thing because she is more valuable as a barnstormer/fundraiser for candidates this coming election."

Very unfortunate, but true. You're gonna catch hell for saying so(and I'm gonna get flamed for agreeing with you lol). She was like lightening in a bottle when she was first introduced to the country with her convention speech. It was all downhill after that, with the McCain campaign totally mismanaging her/eventually backstabbing her, a media campaign against her unlike anything I've ever seen, and she didn't do herself any favors by stepping down as governor. She would have been far better served to finish out her term, and then take one of the Senate seats up there. She could have easily unseated RINO MurCOWski. She continues to be VERY valuable to our side though. She can rally the conservative base like no one else, and she has a way of making leftist heads explode.

27 posted on 02/01/2011 8:08:57 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Kickass Conservative

For Bachmann, it’s water off a duck. She’s had their hatred and arrows since she arrived, and she keeps on truckin’. She’s too well spoken for anyone to Quayle.


28 posted on 02/01/2011 8:10:27 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Justaham

Let’s just keep in mind that Allahpundit hates Sarah Palin.


29 posted on 02/01/2011 8:10:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neocon1984

You agree with what? That Palin isn’t qualified to be the Republican nominee? This website is Pro-Palin, in that the founder of the website is encouraging her to run for President.

So in other words, you Disagree with the founder of this website. That means you are in the minority.


30 posted on 02/01/2011 8:11:58 PM PST by train
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To: pissant

Did you watch SNL last Saturday?


31 posted on 02/01/2011 8:14:58 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (They bring a Bible to a Memorial, we bring a T Shirt - Long Legged Mac Daddy)
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To: KoRn

You sound ‘concerned’.


32 posted on 02/01/2011 8:15:54 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (McCarthy was Right.)
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To: pissant
It's a PPP poll, not exactly known for their accuracy. Also, what a stunner that Allahpundit, a known anti-Palin guy, would post this. Put it this way. There is no chance that Obama would carry SD over any of the known Republican candidates.
33 posted on 02/01/2011 8:17:03 PM PST by Rational Thought
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Such a Palin hater. Stop bashing Palin on freerepublic. She’s a Conservative and she has the support of the founder of this website. He likes her, he is encouraging her to run for President. Too bad for you, you won’t get your way on freerepublic. She is one of us. Palin is Conservative. Your true colors are showing with each and every post.


34 posted on 02/01/2011 8:18:02 PM PST by train
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To: Kickass Conservative

No, I saw it on Youtube. It could have been alot funnier. They need better writers. But getting lampooned on SNL means you’ve arrived. No president or major politico is spared. Thinking of Dana Carvey as GWHB still cracks me up.


35 posted on 02/01/2011 8:18:14 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Justaham

Since this can’t be true, it follows that agents of Romney or Huckabee are responsible for the fraud. The tipoff for me is in the grammar used.


36 posted on 02/01/2011 8:18:43 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick ("I'm not going to shut up!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Justaham
Maybe South Dakota doesn't like those who resign their office halfway through their term when the pressure got too much.

For the record, I think Huck and Romney are worse for different reasons. No 2008 retreads.

37 posted on 02/01/2011 8:19:58 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: train

She might be one of you, she ain’t one of me. Have your read the Title IX legislation before?


38 posted on 02/01/2011 8:21:19 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Bigtigermike

Excellent points. I remember ‘92 well, no one thought Clinton would get anywhere near the WH. Look at McCain in December and January 2008, would anyone have thought he would be the nominee?


39 posted on 02/01/2011 8:21:40 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Hope fr bans the in-your-face Palin basher sooner rather than later. Concern trolls are becoming more and more obvious and shouldn't be tolerated on fr. Even if they donate money to this website...which is their attempt to stay even with their anti-conservative posts.

Anti-Palin creeps need to scram. Hope it's sooner rather than later. They are so obvious in their agenda.

40 posted on 02/01/2011 8:21:54 PM PST by train
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"Good luck with your Palin bashing and lasting on freerepublic.com"

You've been here for about 3 months, and the person you were saying this to has been here for the better part of 10 years. I just don't know where to start on that one. LOL It makes you come off as being arrogant, that's for sure....

Also, he was hardly "Palin bashing". Someone giving their honest assessment as to whether or not a candidate can win is hardly "bashing". You're just upset because you don't agree with him.

41 posted on 02/01/2011 8:22:02 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: pissant

Exactly, she ain’t one of you. FR is Palin Country and nothing you post will change that. So leave.


42 posted on 02/01/2011 8:24:21 PM PST by train
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I am actually. I fear that the republicans may focus more on the Senatorial elections, and concede the presidential election(similar to how 1996 was handled).


43 posted on 02/01/2011 8:24:32 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: train

Who are you again? I mean I’ve seen the ant man around here for years, and you are?


44 posted on 02/01/2011 8:26:24 PM PST by SoDak (Won't you pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen)
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To: KoRn

Let’s face it: a small state candidate has NO chance. AK has only 3 electoral votes and Palin doesn’t bring much to her party. Unless she moves to a medium or large sized state in the meantime.

Those are the political facts of life.


45 posted on 02/01/2011 8:26:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: KoRn

I think he/she is a teenager. It’s the only explanation.


46 posted on 02/01/2011 8:27:54 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: KoRn

No, he’s upset because Jim Robinson openly supports Sarah Palin and encourages her to run for President. Palin is a bona-fide Conservative. This is a Conservative website. The honest assessment is that it is weird for a poster to bash a Conservative on a Conservative website on a daily basis.


47 posted on 02/01/2011 8:27:56 PM PST by train
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To: train

You don’t by chance live in Southeast Ohio, do you?


48 posted on 02/01/2011 8:28:12 PM PST by gopno1
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To: hinckley buzzard

Just for the record, SD hasn’t voted rat in the Presidential election since ‘64.


49 posted on 02/01/2011 8:31:49 PM PST by SoDak (Won't you pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen)
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To: gopno1

ding ding ding. Post of the day award! LOL


50 posted on 02/01/2011 8:32:08 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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