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San Francisco Supervisor Criticized For Refusing To Recite Pledge Of Allegiance
FoxNews.com ^ | Feb 2, 2011 | Fox News

Posted on 02/02/2011 11:34:43 AM PST by NoRedTape

"A controversy is brewing at San Francisco’s City Hall over one of the newest members of the Board of Supervisors who refuses to recite the pledge of allegiance.

District Six Supervisor Jane Kim rises with her fellow supervisors for the Pledge of Allegiance at each session of the Board of Supervisors, but she does not recite the pledge and has not done so since taking office last month, Fox KTVU reports.

Kim said that she believes it is a personal decision of how to honor the flag and country and has been surprised by the criticism.

"I don't think our flag represents a nation where there's liberty and justice for all," argued Kim.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; pledge; sanfrancisco
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Jagoff. They should throw her out of Office. Oh wait, it's San Francisco. What a sad sad city "government" they have.
1 posted on 02/02/2011 11:34:48 AM PST by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape
"I don't think our flag represents a nation where there's liberty and justice for all," argued Kim.

That's absolutely true. Obamacare, CFR, Kelo v. New London, etc.

Really, I see no point in pledging allegiance to the flag. I'd rather pledge allegiance to the Constitution.

2 posted on 02/02/2011 11:37:58 AM PST by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: NoRedTape

Paint me a shade of “not shocked” that this occurred in San Francisco. This is the pit that gave us Princess Nancy, Ruler of The People’s Republic of Pelosi.


3 posted on 02/02/2011 11:40:05 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: Sloth

Good point. I bet this lady would say the problem is we’re not taking enough from producers to distribute to non-producers.


4 posted on 02/02/2011 11:41:22 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge, MA grad student. Any potential conservative Christian FReepmail-FRiends out there?)
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To: NoRedTape

“Our Diversity Is Our Strength!”


5 posted on 02/02/2011 11:41:58 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: NoRedTape
Here is a picture of the clone.
6 posted on 02/02/2011 11:42:01 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (purple durple lips)
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To: NoRedTape

Liberals “honor” the flag by burning it.
Liberals “honor” the Koran by jailing anyone found burning it.

Any questions?


7 posted on 02/02/2011 11:42:06 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Sloth

The Flag is the symbol of our Country, encompassing all that was set in stone by our Forefathers, including the Constitution. All elected officials should say the Pledge. Look at what happened to schools and to society when the Pledge was removed from the classroom. Pathetic.


8 posted on 02/02/2011 11:42:39 AM PST by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape
"I don't think our flag represents a nation where there's liberty and justice for all," argued Kim.

Words mean things, if you want to be free in your mind, leave and have at it.

I don't owe my personal freedom to you or anyone else but God in our beloved country.

9 posted on 02/02/2011 11:42:41 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sloth
I see no point in pledging allegiance to the flag. I'd rather pledge allegiance to the Constitution.
Ah, what do you think the flag represents?
10 posted on 02/02/2011 11:43:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Sloth

True. Good points. However, those are Libertarian points that you brought up, and I’m sure they were the farthest things from Kim’s mind.


11 posted on 02/02/2011 11:43:36 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: Tzimisce

Can I use that in a blog ? I love it!


12 posted on 02/02/2011 11:44:35 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

“Hi! I’m Jane Kim, and I haven’t any idea why I’m smiling!”


13 posted on 02/02/2011 11:45:33 AM PST by RexBeach (I used to be indecisive. But now I'm not so sure.)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

Note the red scarf...


14 posted on 02/02/2011 11:46:12 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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At least she’s hot.


15 posted on 02/02/2011 11:46:52 AM PST by sand lake bar
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To: NoRedTape

The pledge is at once an aspiration and a confirmation, IMO. These people kill me. Community-organizing intelligence at work.


16 posted on 02/02/2011 11:47:19 AM PST by mancini
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To: NoRedTape
"I don't think our flag represents a nation where there's liberty and justice for all," argued Kim.

Actually, I suspect the real problem is the "allegiance" and "under God" part.

17 posted on 02/02/2011 11:48:16 AM PST by marron
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To: NoRedTape

I’m in favor of giving San Francisco to China as a down payment on the debt. It might knock off twenty bucks.


18 posted on 02/02/2011 11:48:26 AM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: NoRedTape
jane.kim@sfgov.org

415.413.7525

19 posted on 02/02/2011 11:48:29 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: NoRedTape

I’ll bet she’s not talking about white Christain gun owners. If she was, I might agree with her.


20 posted on 02/02/2011 11:49:37 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: NoRedTape

Really nice image your project there of immigrants and Asians Jane. Yet your fellow SFans try to silence Rush over meaningless things.

Laughable, her campaign site says she is a “public servant for ALL of SF” Oh, but liberty and justice isn’t for “All” in your book, Jane, but somehow you can represent ALL of SF?

How about the patriotic ones? Nice way to “represent” them. Shame on you, little childish little attention-whore.

“Jane’s family immigrated to the United States in the early 1970’”

You’d be alot happier in North Korea, Jane. Do us all a favor and emigrate there. Fellow Kim would love to use you as a propaganda tool. Ingrate bitch.


21 posted on 02/02/2011 11:50:05 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

San Fran smells like China in a lot of places. Urine with a slight fishy smell.


22 posted on 02/02/2011 11:50:25 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (purple durple lips)
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To: NoRedTape

More proof of American Suicide by Stupidity. Why can’t we run these leftists out of our country.


23 posted on 02/02/2011 11:50:34 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
I’m in favor of giving San Francisco to China as a down payment on the debt. It might knock off twenty bucks.

Even if we had to pay the ChiComs to take it, it'll be worth the investment. Throw in Berkeley, Oakland and L.A., too.

24 posted on 02/02/2011 11:52:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: NoRedTape

Asian females make the nastiest liberals.


25 posted on 02/02/2011 11:53:07 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: NoRedTape

But, don’t dare say she’s not patriotic.


26 posted on 02/02/2011 11:54:31 AM PST by marron
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To: NoRedTape

California makes it’s own bed, let them lie in it...


27 posted on 02/02/2011 11:55:37 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: NoRedTape
Considering who wrote the pledge, a Christian Socialist, I would have a hard time saying it to.

I know that's not her reasoning, though.
28 posted on 02/02/2011 11:57:31 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: NoRedTape

Jane Kim is Korean. She may have benefited from her heritage. She is a graduate of Stanford and perhaps attended at no cost to her on a scholarship that was made possible by affirmative action. You know. The politically correct “ racial diversity” is the most important thing school of thought.

Liberty and justice is not available to everyone. Some people are more equal than others and she may be one of them.


29 posted on 02/02/2011 11:58:00 AM PST by Saltmeat
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To: NoRedTape
From 2006....

Where Did All the Children Go? In San Francisco and Other Big Cities, Costs Drive Out Middle-Class Families

30 posted on 02/02/2011 11:58:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Hey, Schumer, your Lockerbie report left quite a bit out.)
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To: ScottinVA

We might even get some wonton soup if we throw in Governor Moon Beam.


31 posted on 02/02/2011 12:02:20 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: NoRedTape

She’s more than welcome to leave.


32 posted on 02/02/2011 12:03:55 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: NoRedTape

I’m sick and tired of little pricks and b*tches like this; taking public jobs just to stick it in the eye of the public.

Like the little wench didn’t know what she was getting into. Fire her pathetic little ass.


33 posted on 02/02/2011 12:03:59 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Absolutely Nobama
"Note the red scarf..."

Her website (janekim.org) says she came to the US during the 1970s when her family immigrated. And that she is the President of the San Francisco Board of Education, a former community organizer and a civil rights attorney at Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights and a graduate of Berkley school of Law.

Connecting the obvious dots, she's a red-scarfed Commie anti-American who little appreciates either America saving South Koreans from the fate of their northern countrymen or the opportunities America granted her and her family by allowing them to come here.

Did not her naturalization to a US Citizen require her oath of allegiance to this country and its flag?

American should always keep her ilk in mind when deciding Immigration and Citizenship policies.

34 posted on 02/02/2011 12:04:02 PM PST by drpix
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

LOL!


35 posted on 02/02/2011 12:05:01 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: oh8eleven
Ah, what do you think the flag represents?

The country. Sometimes the country is good and sometimes it is bad.

36 posted on 02/02/2011 12:05:13 PM PST by Sloth (If a tax cut constitutes "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should count as a "desposit.")
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To: NoRedTape

In other news from San Francisco, water is wet.


37 posted on 02/02/2011 12:06:18 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: NoRedTape
"I don't think our flag represents a nation where there's liberty and justice for all," argued Kim.

If she thinks there's anywhere on earth which better represents liberty and justice than the US, she should go there and take the rest of the San Francisco rabble with her.

38 posted on 02/02/2011 12:06:46 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: randomhero97

Not even close.


39 posted on 02/02/2011 12:07:13 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: Saltmeat

That reminds me of George Orwell’s Animal Farm:

“Some animals are more equal than others.”


40 posted on 02/02/2011 12:09:06 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: NoRedTape

“I don’t think our flag represents a nation where there’s liberty and justice for all,” argued Kim.

In truth, this nation is NOT a perfect nation where “there’s liberty and justice for all”. Rather, it is a nation whose constitutional charter espouses liberty and justice for all, and sets forth the framework where its citizen inhabitants-all of them imperfect-have as their duty to strive toward that end.


41 posted on 02/02/2011 12:11:37 PM PST by Let_It_Be_So
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To: Absolutely Nobama
http://www.oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm

Francis Bellamy (1855 - 1931), a Baptist minister, wrote the original Pledge in August 1892. He was a Christian Socialist. In his Pledge, he is expressing the ideas of his first cousin, Edward Bellamy, author of the American socialist utopian novels, Looking Backward (1888) and Equality (1897).
42 posted on 02/02/2011 12:14:57 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Sloth

To the Republic for which it once stood.


43 posted on 02/02/2011 12:15:07 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: drpix
Funny, when my grandparents came here they couldn't wait to be Americans. My father's father, Avram Helevi, somehow got through Ellis Island without having his name changed. He legally changed his name to Albert Levy in the late '40's. He was fluent in many languages (Ladino, Spanish, Greek, and Hebrew) but refused to speak any of them because he thought it would be disrespectful to his new home. Yeah, just like this Kim woman, eh ?
44 posted on 02/02/2011 12:19:00 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: NoRedTape

She is Korean. I would wonder if she is receiving any funding from any group that supports the North Korean government? I would look at that very carefully.


45 posted on 02/02/2011 12:19:56 PM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Let_It_Be_So
"Perfect Nation?"

Man is incapable of perfection, but America is closer to it than any other country on this globe.

If Kim doesn't think so, she can do like her immigrant parents who brought her here as child: She can emigrate to a country she thinks is better.

And even though she owes this country a hell lot more than it owes her, I'll take the departure of her anti-American ass as evening the score.

46 posted on 02/02/2011 12:20:09 PM PST by drpix
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To: Sloth

Our “bad” is a lot better than most countries’ good.


47 posted on 02/02/2011 12:20:40 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: NoRedTape
I'm not all that taken with the Pledge myself: having children say it in school every day for twelve years is nothing but brainwashing. Better we should all take the Federal Oath (not sure what it's called - the one about enemies foreign and domestic) when we become adults, after lots of civics classes in school.
48 posted on 02/02/2011 12:24:07 PM PST by Grut
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To: randomhero97

I never knew that.... Cool. Thank you!

It’s funny. I think I’ve learned more about America and American history from many of my fellow FReepers than I ever did from my lib public school teachers or marxist college professors.

I think I should sue, personally.


49 posted on 02/02/2011 12:26:33 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Freedom is the freedom to say liberals are Idiots that aren't even all that Useful.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
I'm the same way.

It's funny, though, one goes through twelve years of reciting the pledge and is never taught the history behind it.
50 posted on 02/02/2011 12:30:46 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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