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Professor Tells Conservative Students in Class: 'Blood Will Be On Your Hands'
Eagle Forum ^ | January 2011

Posted on 02/02/2011 1:26:16 PM PST by Sopater

Conservatives have long told anecdotes about the outrageous behavior of some liberal university professors, but now there is video to prove it. After getting a tip from a Louisiana State University student, a web-based organization called Campus Reform sent a cameraman into Professor Bradley E. Schaefer's freshman Astronomy 1101 class. The course description says the class is about "fundamental principles of the solar system," but on this particular day the topic was U.S. policy on global warming. Students were asked to sit in sections according to what they think the U.S. should do about global warming, with choices including do nothing, follow Kyoto accords, mandate birth control or eliminate all engines, among others.

The video shows Schaefer berating students who chose the "do nothing" option, saying "Oh boy, that's really good for you, at least for the next decade or two. And then you will remember having sat on that corner, because you will not want to tell your children, if they live . . . that you were part of the trouble, right? Do you realize that?"

The professor continued with a highly ideological rant on global warming. "There is universal agreement among scientists. . . . Global warming is real; it's caused by humanity." He repeatedly asserted, "It's only going to get worse," but failed to mention the many respected scientists who have publicly expressed skepticism about anthropogenic global warming.

Near the end of the class, Schaefer asked students to discuss questions he prepared for each group and to report their answers to the class. The paper given to the "do nothing" policy group read:

Your professed policies have a substantial likelihood of leading to the death of a billion people or more.

A. Estimate the probability that you personally will be killed in an ugly way because of your decision.

B. What is the probability that any children of yours will die in ugly ways due to your current decision?

When this group's spokesman was called upon to give the group's response, Schaefer continually interrupted him, making comments like, "Screwing the science is wrong. You're an ostrich putting your head in the sand." When the student tried to continue, Schaefer scoffed, "What about the 40,000 people in Europe already killed because of your decision?"

Finally, a student from another group yelled, "Let him answer." Schaefer stopped interrupting, but resorted to juvenile theatrics, mocking the student with gestures and facial expressions that implied he thought the student's remarks were ridiculous. Addressing the group as a whole, the professor intoned, "You are going to be accountable for this!" At one point during the class he said, "Too little, too late. Blood will be on your hands."

Perhaps more troubling than one professor's abuse of his position is the way the higher ed media and university officials responded to the incriminating video. When Campus Reform initially released three short excerpts from the recording, both the Chronicle of Higher Education and Higher Ed rushed to defend Schaefer by claiming the videos were taken out of context and didn't give the whole picture.

The Chronicle article reports that Schaefer "was actually challenging all of his students, both liberal and conservative, he says, and not chastising any of them for their beliefs." The writer furthermore abets Schaefer's defense that he "put forth no opinions on how humanity should respond to global warming" — an assertion revealed as a blatant lie in the complete 40-minute version of the tape Campus Reform released at the request of the Chronicle. Likewise, Higher Ed portrays the Campus Reform video as a "setup" complete with selective editing to portray Schaefer's noble teaching methodologies as abusive and biased.

In fairness, Schaefer did also mock the "eliminate all engines" group. "How are you going to feed the people in the cities?" he yelled, suggesting that engines are still needed to transport the food and supplies people need to survive. Nonetheless, asserts Ashley Thorne of the National Association of Scholars (NAS), a professor's job is "not to belittle" but to "instruct impartially." Thorne wrote on the NAS website that Schaefer "shouldn't be jeering at students on either side of a debate he has staged with an invitation to take positions he believes are extreme. When he asks students to sit according to their beliefs, then ridicules them for doing so — no matter what their politics are, he is in the wrong."

LSU physics and astronomy department chairman Michael L. Cherry defended Schaefer as "an extremely exuberant and enthusiastic teacher who consistently gets very strong student evaluations." Mr. Cherry told the Chronicle he did not expect any action to be taken to against Professor Schaefer, though he would take any student complaints "very seriously."

Unidentified LSU administrators adopted the media arguments in their "Setting the Record Straight" statement released several weeks after the incident. They attempted to discredit the messenger by accusing Campus Reform of misrepresenting Schaefer "in order to advance a political agenda" and claimed the group edited out more than 20 minutes of class time to suit their purposes. (Campus Reform explained their cameraman turned off the tape during the group discussion time when Schaefer was not lecturing.)

In another attempt to whitewash the situation, LSU Provost and Executive Vice Chancellor John Maxwell Hamilton told Thorne in an email that "Not one student who was in the lecture has complained to the university," when in fact at least one student says he did complain.

A student identified as Matthew said he did complain to Dr. Cherry about Schaefer and asked to drop the course. "Even though he [Dr. Cherry] said he doesn't approve of what he [Professor Schaefer] did, he [Cherry] said he wouldn't do anything about it. He won't even let me drop the class." Matthew also said he didn't realize the class had been recorded, but later learned the cameraman started recording after Schaefer called Matthew "stupid" for sitting with the "do nothing" policy group.

Despite 40 minutes of video proving otherwise, Provost Hamilton assured Thorne, "this is not a case of irresponsible teaching. It is a case of very bad journalism, obviously by someone without standards." (Chronicle of Higher Education, 11-17-10; InsideHigherEd.com, 11-18-10; nas.org, 12-1-10 and 11-22-10)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: academia; campusreform; dementalillness; globalwarming; greenreligion; leftchosis; lsu; schaefer
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1 posted on 02/02/2011 1:26:18 PM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Here’s the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdWlb_1pW8


2 posted on 02/02/2011 1:27:31 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater

Destroy the messenger.


3 posted on 02/02/2011 1:29:28 PM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: Sopater

The guy belongs in a rubber room!


4 posted on 02/02/2011 1:29:43 PM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: Sopater

A professor teaching astronomy should be considerably more knowledgeable than this one. He is simply ignorant of the way in which the solar system works.


5 posted on 02/02/2011 1:29:43 PM PST by texmexis best
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To: Sopater

tsk tsk


6 posted on 02/02/2011 1:29:56 PM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Sopater

Tenure is a hell of a drug. So is certainty.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 1:30:20 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Sopater

The term “assclown” comes to mind.


8 posted on 02/02/2011 1:31:06 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Sopater
Your professed policies have a substantial likelihood of leading to the death of a billion people or more.

Oh, ya mean like COMMUNISM?

http://agendadocumentary.com

9 posted on 02/02/2011 1:31:34 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Sopater
There is universal agreement among scientists.

Universal? 100%. Maybe even 200%. He should be fired just for making that statement. And, by the way, this is an astronomy class. Poly Sci 101 is down the hall.

10 posted on 02/02/2011 1:32:10 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Obamacare: Not just dreck. Unconstitutional dreck.)
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To: Sopater

Well, if this is just the professor doing his job, then the University must be very proud. Maybe they will support a promotional video for the University using this video of this professor. It should be e-mailed to every student, every parent and every alumni. This will help promote the University, right?


11 posted on 02/02/2011 1:33:38 PM PST by Darteaus94025
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Yeah, like my evo “friends” say,

you should keep your religion out of the science classroom!

BTW, folks, book recommendation: “Discerning Truth” by Dr Jason Lisle.
You’ll start to look at the arguments of the left in a whole different way.


12 posted on 02/02/2011 1:34:29 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

“There is universal agreement among scientists.”

No there isn’t


13 posted on 02/02/2011 1:35:15 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DarthVader

That isn’t even a logic error (appeal to authority/majority).

That’s an outright LIE.


14 posted on 02/02/2011 1:36:06 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Certainty is the death of scientific advancement.

Uncertainly is critical to the scientific method. It is its very essence.


15 posted on 02/02/2011 1:36:31 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Sopater

This is what passes for education nowadays.


16 posted on 02/02/2011 1:37:26 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Sopater
The best thing a teacher can do is train his students how to think critically.

Instead our classrooms are groupthink incubators turning out intellectual clones.

On the positive side, they do tend to strengthen the occasional independent thinker.

17 posted on 02/02/2011 1:37:57 PM PST by skeeter
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To: steelyourfaith

global warming ping


18 posted on 02/02/2011 1:39:48 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Sopater
Paying this braying ass 6 figures for the rest of his useless and unnatural life is what "investment in education" means.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

19 posted on 02/02/2011 1:40:38 PM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet.)
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To: Sopater

“There is universal agreement among scientists.”

What a liar and a fraud.


20 posted on 02/02/2011 1:41:00 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Sopater
In an astronomy class?

This reminds me of the 'English teacher' whose classes were reading newspaper clippings of lynchings. Yes... they were written in English, but...

21 posted on 02/02/2011 1:42:02 PM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Sopater
Communist American haters need to be run our of our schools.
This is our country if you don't like it leave. But, we are finished listening to your lectures on how horrible America and conservativism is. Leave communists - go to a country you appreciate like Iran, Syria, Venezuela.
22 posted on 02/02/2011 1:42:31 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Sopater

The next time some nut attacks the Discovery channel, blame this guy.


23 posted on 02/02/2011 1:42:36 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: reaganaut1; Fractal Trader; FrPR; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; ...
Thanx reaganaut1 !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

24 posted on 02/02/2011 1:42:45 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Sopater

The next time some nut attacks the Discovery channel, blame this guy.


25 posted on 02/02/2011 1:42:49 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Darteaus94025

We’d better find a way. If they can’t control us, ALL of us, they will destroy us. It’s the Marxist way.


26 posted on 02/02/2011 1:43:32 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Sopater
Professor Tells Conservative Students in Class: 'Blood Will Be On Your Hands'

The students that he directed this to should have told him "Of course there will be blood on my hands....considering I work myself to the bone for this country..."

27 posted on 02/02/2011 1:44:42 PM PST by Fedupwithit ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" -Albert Camus)
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To: Sopater

28 posted on 02/02/2011 1:45:45 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Sopater

I wish that I had never clicked the link.

This infuriates the hell out of me.


29 posted on 02/02/2011 1:45:57 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics!)
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To: Sopater

It’s a shame that nobody in that class had the nads to ask the professor about Albert Gore’s $9M beachfront mansion....considering the fact that Gore stated the oceans would rise as a result of “global warming”. It’s also sad nobody asked him why the name was changed from “global warming” to “climate change”.

The kids have been brainwashed/indoctrinated by these leftists and enemies of America re: this BS for decades. And we have sat back and allowed it to go on. We probably are lost as a free nation. It was fun while it lasted.


30 posted on 02/02/2011 1:47:49 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Sopater

Calmly walk up to the prof, plant a couple of punches in his face, and agree that “yes, I do have blood on my hands.”


31 posted on 02/02/2011 1:48:49 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Sopater
The video shows Schaefer berating students who chose the "do nothing" option,

Many libtard professors and teachers use the argument from intimidation to stifle independent thinking among the students, to evade questions they cannot answer,to discourage critical analysis of their arbitrary libtard assumptions, and to discourage any departure from the libtrard intellectual status quo.

33 posted on 02/02/2011 1:50:08 PM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Vision

Guilty!!!!!!


34 posted on 02/02/2011 1:50:24 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Sopater

Defund secondary and post-secondary education, now. Completely.

Let them survive or die in the marketplace.

Fitting for a bunch of Darwinian nitwits.


35 posted on 02/02/2011 1:50:48 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Is a child a person? Of course. Which is why we MUST ban abortion NOW.)
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To: redgolum
The next time some nut attacks the Discovery channel, blame this guy.

Good point. He is inciting violence after all with his apocalyptic rhetoric.

36 posted on 02/02/2011 1:51:54 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Sopater

Years ago I had a prof who was a young commie woman who was a caricature of herself; saturday morning class 9-12, she hunched around up front, smoked, talked with some kind of south-american-russian accent, like she was in a bar trying to get us to start a revolution.
everyone else slept with their eyes open, i would get annoyed and back-and-forth with her (when you’re young you have the energy for that). she liked having me there because someone else spoke besides her. of course, my interest faded and i just stopped going.
life can be funny. she’s probably some deputy undersecretary now, ha.


37 posted on 02/02/2011 1:52:40 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: mjp

One of the communist goals for America was to infiltrate and take over the education of our youth.


38 posted on 02/02/2011 1:54:26 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: XenaLee

You need to watch this documentary:
http://agendadocumentary.com

What has been done to us, who did it, who is doing it, and what we can do about it.


39 posted on 02/02/2011 1:55:42 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Sopater
I had an excellent astronomy professor for back to back semesters in my sophomore year. He was a flaming lib, but the only reason I ever found out was because he was friends of my then-girlfriend's parents and I overheard him talking politics at a party. I did extremely well in his class and the following year he asked me back as a lab assistant.

That was in a very different time, I suppose.

40 posted on 02/02/2011 1:55:42 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Sopater

The class learned a lot of astronomy that day?


41 posted on 02/02/2011 1:57:29 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: Sopater
A. Estimate the probability that you personally will be killed in an ugly way because of your decision.

0.00%

B. What is the probability that any children of yours will die in ugly ways due to your current decision?

0.00%

C. Estimate the probability that vicious actitivist college professors will die of AIDs.

90%

42 posted on 02/02/2011 1:58:29 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Sopater

What does Gore-bull Warming have to do with Astronomy?


43 posted on 02/02/2011 2:01:45 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Seruzawa

Actually, AIDS doesn’t kill you,
it’s the minor disease you catch that kills you due to a compromised immune system.


44 posted on 02/02/2011 2:03:38 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Sopater
"...Your professed policies have a substantial likelihood of leading to the death of a billion people or more..."

Well. If I had been in his class, I would have left my assignment on his desk with THIS:

"YOUR support of ACTUAL leftist policies (banning of DDT, smaller cars, socialized health care) and leftist regimes (China, Russia, Cuba, Cambodia) have a proven 100% likelihood of leading to the death of hundreds of millions of actual people or more...

45 posted on 02/02/2011 2:04:20 PM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: Sopater

Two good thing he said. “I don’t want to live long.” I don’t want him to, either.

Then he said, “I don’t want to pay more taxes.” I don’t, either. My solution is to elect small government folks. His solution is to die. I agree with both of us.

BTW, the class sounds like a free for all. The guy has to shout to be heard.


46 posted on 02/02/2011 2:04:49 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: Sopater

A. Estimate the probability that you personally will be killed in an ugly way because of your decision.

Absolutely none. Anthropogenic global warming is BS.

B. What is the probability that any children of yours will die in ugly ways due to your current decision?

Very low. Even if I’m wrong, I’ll make sure my kids have the skills and tools to kill your children, instead.


47 posted on 02/02/2011 2:07:07 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Sopater

I’m ok with blood on my hands. As long as it’s my Enemies...


48 posted on 02/02/2011 2:07:56 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Sopater
"The professor continued with a highly ideological rant on global warming. "There is universal agreement among scientists. . . . "

Not a true statement, but even if it were true, it is totally meaningless. Of all disciplines, you would think an Astronomer would be the last to fall for that logic trap.

After all, only 500 years ago, there was "universal agreement among scientists" that the Sun revolved around the Earth.

49 posted on 02/02/2011 2:09:23 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Sopater

Should be fired, no questions asked. Here he is teaching one of the most interesting subjects in the world, imo, but he’s wasting time bashing these kids over the head with crap about the most bogus subject there ever was. What a loser.


50 posted on 02/02/2011 2:10:04 PM PST by LibWhacker
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