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Illinois May Require Drug Testing for Welfare Recipients
news.yahoo.com ^ | February 2, 2011 | Tamara L. Morris

Posted on 02/02/2011 4:52:51 PM PST by Angelus

A bill introduced to the Illinois House seeks to require new applicants for Temporary Aid to Needy Families (TANF) to undergo drug testing and subsequent substance abuse treatment if a drug test is positive. House Bill 0011 was introduced Jan. 12 by Rep. Jim Sacia (R-Freeport) and provides for the Department of Human Services to enact a "pilot program" for drug testing as a condition of eligibility for TANF.

TANF is a program that provides financial assistance to pregnant women and families with at least one dependent child under the age of 19 in the home. This is temporary financial assistance that provides aid for food, shelter, utilities and other expenses for recipients. TANF is a short-term cash assistance program and applicants must be Illinois residents, U.S. citizens or meet specified immigration requirements.

The drug testing program would be started in three Illinois counties and if it proves successful, it would become a statewide program. The bill exempts Illinois residents who are 65 and older or are a resident of an Illinois licensed nursing home.

The bill requires that a positive substance abuse test will be retested for a confirmation result and those who test positive again upon retest shall voluntarily participate in a drug treatment program. It is unclear whether the cost of treatment will be the responsibility of the State or if the applicant who tests positive will be required to pay for their own drug treatment.

While on the surface, many people see drug testing for welfare recipients as a positive step toward accountability, the concept itself raises more questions and concerns among Illinois residents. Concerns such as what a positive drug test will mean for children within the family are foremost for many residents interviewed.

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1 posted on 02/02/2011 4:52:56 PM PST by Angelus
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To: Angelus

I live in MA and this would be a great idea for our state. Welfare rolls would drop by 50% minium.


2 posted on 02/02/2011 4:54:31 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: Angelus

Will never happen - would alienate too many potential D voters ;)


3 posted on 02/02/2011 4:54:51 PM PST by PissAndVinegar
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To: Angelus

If they do that it would really pare down the welfare rolls.


4 posted on 02/02/2011 4:55:41 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: utherdoul

More like 85%


5 posted on 02/02/2011 4:56:45 PM PST by Bullish (Obama's obviously drunk at the wheel and should be taken off the road before he gets people killed)
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To: Angelus

This, on the surface, sounds better than the Missouri law, which requires that a state welfare worker determine reasonable suspicion that a TANF recipient is taking drugs. As I stated in that thread, I think the tests should be mandatory.


6 posted on 02/02/2011 4:56:45 PM PST by mark3681
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To: utherdoul

Would cut a lot here in SC.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 4:57:06 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Angelus

With the way that they do things in Illinois, I would think that the State wants to test the drugs of the Welfare Queens to be certian that the drugs are of high quality, right?


8 posted on 02/02/2011 4:58:01 PM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Angelus

Good. And right after them we can test the politicians and police.


9 posted on 02/02/2011 4:59:27 PM PST by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal, if an idea is a complete & utter disaster, it's only because there's not enough of it.)
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To: Angelus

Very progressive. The objective of support for healthy people who cannot support themselves ought to be to turn them into healthy people who can support themselves. Tough to support ones self after sucking on a crack pipe all night.

I’d test for alcohol too.


10 posted on 02/02/2011 5:00:23 PM PST by wizwor (http://danvilledelivery.wordpress.com/)
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To: Angelus

Add to a drug test a proof of citizenship or legal immigration status and the welfare roles may drop further still.


11 posted on 02/02/2011 5:00:46 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: Angelus

I wonder how many waivers will be given for that one?


12 posted on 02/02/2011 5:02:39 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Angelus

Granted I read through this quickly but my understanding is that the test is given but it has no effect on the recipient qualifying for aid. Just what the taxpayers need, a huge influx of state mandated, state paid inpatient drug programs. They aint’ cheap.


13 posted on 02/02/2011 5:02:44 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Howie66
I'm confused - is this to make sure they are or are not on drugs?
14 posted on 02/02/2011 5:03:48 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Fear God and Government - especially when one tries to become the other!)
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To: Angelus

I see nothing but problems. I am all for drug testing welfare recipients however this article alludes to a penalty of drug treatment if the person tests positive not loss of welfare income. I would be all for it if they test positive and the penalty is immediate forfeiture of all state assistance. I bet the state will foot the bill for “treatment” too!


15 posted on 02/02/2011 5:04:13 PM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: Angelus
How about drug-testing to get to vote?

: )

16 posted on 02/02/2011 5:06:30 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Angelus

Interesting concept.
Unlikely to make it into law in Illinois I’d guess.


17 posted on 02/02/2011 5:08:29 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
How about drug-testing to get to vote?

I remember as a child they taught us we are innocent until proven guilty. Somehow that has changed to we are all guilty until proven innocent.

Not a good trend for a country which claims to have freedom.
18 posted on 02/02/2011 5:15:06 PM PST by microgood
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To: Angelus

Over under on savings is 50%. I’ll take the over.


19 posted on 02/02/2011 5:16:26 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: Angelus; All

I believe 80% of the problems in DC, and state legislatures, would be solved if all Reps and Senators were required to take a breathalyzer before entering the chamber for business. They should have to take a pee test for drugs, randomly or a program along the same lines as airline pilots.

These people pass laws that affect millions of citizens. If they couldn’t operate a motor vehicle, they shouldn’t be making these important decisions.


20 posted on 02/02/2011 5:19:31 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: microgood
My real point was why not an ID to vote?

The article is about drug testing, so I went with that.

So do you consider verifying the eligibility of a voter to be an infringement of freedom?

21 posted on 02/02/2011 5:28:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So do you consider verifying the eligibility of a voter to be an infringement of freedom?

Not at all. The government has a right to know where you live and who you are if you want to vote.

I was mainly speaking to the Fourth Amendment, or what is left of it.
22 posted on 02/02/2011 5:35:31 PM PST by microgood
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To: microgood
I was mainly speaking to the Fourth Amendment, or what is left of it.

The IRS alone pretty much did away with that.

23 posted on 02/02/2011 5:37:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Angelus
House Bill 0011 was introduced Jan. 12 by Rep. Jim Sacia (R-Freeport) and provides for the Department of Human Services to enact a "pilot program" for drug testing as a condition of eligibility for TANF.

He can introduce it until he's blue in the face. It still has to pass a rat House, rat Senate and be signed into law by a rat Governor.

24 posted on 02/02/2011 5:38:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 (nk too.<p>)
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To: Angelus
It "Sounds" good, BUT it smells of "letting the camel get his nose under the tent"...
25 posted on 02/02/2011 5:40:40 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Angelus
One could only hope ALL States pass 2 pieces of Legislation:

1) Mandatory Drug testing for ALL Public Assistance

2) Mandatory Photo ID for Voting, AND Public Assistance, including PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP.

26 posted on 02/02/2011 5:46:09 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1

If someone is so poor they need assistance, where do they get the $ for drugs? My guess is they trade their EBT cards for cash, which goes for all kinds of goodies, like booze, strip clubs, gambling casinos, etc.


27 posted on 02/02/2011 7:17:21 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: PissAndVinegar

DING! DING! DING! Today’s winner.


28 posted on 02/02/2011 11:35:15 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This would not fly — it would catch too many big wigs.


29 posted on 02/02/2011 11:40:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: boop

what, you never heard of the illinois subsidized dope program?

just kidding


30 posted on 02/02/2011 11:41:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Lol!

“The Happy Breed”

Of course they don’t need drugs anymore. All they need do is make sure the subject has an i-Pod and Comcast...


31 posted on 02/03/2011 12:32:20 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“How about drug-testing to get to vote?

: )”

Or buy a gun? Collect Social Security? Get married? etc. Once it starts - where does it end?


32 posted on 02/03/2011 12:52:19 AM PST by PeteCat
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To: PeteCat

Tying outright welfare to that doesn’t sound so unreasonable. One could argue about Social Security at least as the pension supplement it was conceived to be rather than the Ponzi welfare fiasco it has evolved into, because they sure didn’t test you before taking the FICA tax.


33 posted on 02/03/2011 12:56:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Being that it’s Illinois...I would say that they are on drugs. Good drugs!


34 posted on 02/03/2011 4:49:15 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: boop
"y guess is they trade their EBT cards for cash, which goes for all kinds of goodies, like booze, strip clubs, gambling casinos, etc."

There is NO proof required to claim you're poor....you just do "cash" business, and there's no paper trail at all.

Likewise, convienience stores, groceries, etc. in the inner-cities have a "going-rate" for food stamp exchange for cash, and then the cash goes to the bling, crack, and tattoo parlor dealers, etc.

This is BLATANT, and four generations of certain ethnic groups have developed this as a "way of life"....except for those who also deal drugs on the side, to supplement their income, or steal cars, and whatever else they can steal to get added income in the black market deals for items.

Reality of the inner-city/Democrat-run cesspools is ALWAYS ignored by the State Run Media, and there are inner-city areas that even the police are afraid to enter......

35 posted on 02/03/2011 5:51:55 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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