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Border Fence Fund Bill Passes Senate Committee
mspatriots.com ^ | Feb. 1, 2011 | jd

Posted on 02/02/2011 6:56:18 PM PST by jdirt

Press Release

Feb. 1, 2011 Jackson, MS SB 2255 Border Fence Fund Bill passed through the Senate Judiciary A committee at about 4:45pm central time. This bill will fund the border fence by imposing a fee on money sent to foreign countries (remittances) from people unlawfully present in this country and in cooperation with other States. If only half the States participate, they could raise $1.2 billion annually for the border fence with an average remittance fee of 5%.

The vote was 5- 5, the tie was broken by the committee Chair and author, Senator Joey Fillingane.

The next step is for the bill to go to the Finance committee, Chaired by Senator Dean Kirby. That committee is about evenly split politically. The deadline for getting this bill passed through the Finance committee and the Senate floor is Feb. 23rd.

By late last night it was still not clear if the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary A committee was going to bring the bill to a vote but members from several Tea Party groups in Mississippi showed up to support the bill. The committee meetings are open to the public. Opponents and supporters alike are allowed to speak at the meetings. One of the tea partiers spoke about the bill in the morning session. She emphasized the need for States to send aid to our border States to build their border fences. This is no different then sending aid to neighboring States who have suffered man-made or natural disasters, she said. She stated that Americans are looking to the States to protect them now because the Federal government has failed to make good on their promise to secure the border for over 25 years..

Senator Chris McDaniel worked diligently throughout the day to make sure amendments would address any concerns that committee members may have.

Several amendments were made: the tax return option for citizens to get a full refund of the remittance fee was changed to use e-verify for each transaction eliminating the need to do a tax return. Those who do not clear the e-verify check will be charged the fee. Churches, missionaries, non-profit organizations and ligitimate MS corporations are exempt. a contingency was made for MS to withdraw the money out of the fund in case a border fence is not built.

A representative from Western Union spoke in the afternoon session, he insisted the fee was a tax to all Mississippians. He stated it would effect jobs. He claimed that the military would also be unjustly punished for sending money overseas. The Western Union representative did not reveal to the committee how many transactions take place in MS.

According to the Inter-American Development bank, $99 million dollars annually leave Mississippi. Mississippi spends $106 million dollars annually on K-12, emergency medical care and incarceration of illegal aliens.

The Tea Party in Mississippi would like to give a special thanks to Senator Fillingane, Senator Chris McDaniel, Senator Michael Watson, Senator Walter Michel, Senator Terry Burton, and Senator Lee Yancey.

mspatriots.com


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Arizona; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; illegal; illegalinvaders; illegalinvasion; immigration; mexico; mississippi; ms; remittances; statesrights

1 posted on 02/02/2011 6:56:24 PM PST by jdirt
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To: AuntB

ping


2 posted on 02/02/2011 6:57:17 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, for the humorless life)
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To: jdirt

*shaking head*

It is NOT that their isn’t funding to secure the border....

It’s that they simply REFUSE to do so. Their agenda has not and will not change. If it wasn’t done on 9/12 by Bush, it never will be.


3 posted on 02/02/2011 7:01:07 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote! ~ DeMint, 2012)
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To: jdirt

Great idea taxing remittances.


4 posted on 02/02/2011 7:03:26 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: jdirt

Excellent


5 posted on 02/02/2011 7:03:26 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: jdirt

How can we help this?


6 posted on 02/02/2011 7:06:12 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge, MA grad student. Any potential conservative Christian FReepmail-FRiends out there?)
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To: jdirt

Most of the stimulus money should have been used for the border fence.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 7:10:33 PM PST by umgud
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To: jdirt
imposing a fee on money sent to foreign countries (remittances) from people unlawfully present in this country

Well, I guess there's a benefit to not enforcing the Rule Of Law and the US Constitution. /sarcasm

8 posted on 02/02/2011 7:10:38 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

So they are going to ask the banks to figure out who is here illegally and who is not?


9 posted on 02/02/2011 7:23:53 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy

the new amendment will e-verify everybody. if you don’t pass the e-verify check you will have to pat the fee.


10 posted on 02/02/2011 7:46:12 PM PST by jdirt
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Call these people night and day. If these people don’t get calls, it will die. The AP incorectly reported “Border Fence Funding Bill Falters in Mississippi” Its in all the papers and the internet. &holes.

WE NEED 15 VOTES TO PASS, 3/5 ths VOTE

SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE

Dean Kirby R (601)359-3246 dkirby@senate.ms.gov
Chairman

Eugene Clarke R (601)359-2886 bclarke@senate.ms.gov
Sidney Albritton R (601)359-3226 salbritton@senate.ms.gov
Terry Brown R (601)359-3226 tbrown@senate.ms.gov
Joey Fillingane R (601)359-3237 jfillingane@senate.ms.gov
Author of the bill but could still use thank you calls and emails
Billy Hewes R (601)359-3209 bhewes@senate.ms.gov
Tom King R (601)359-2886 tking@senate.ms.gov
Nolan Mettetal R (601)359-2220 nmettetal@senate.ms.gov
Walter Michel R (601)359-3092 wmichel@senate.ms.gov
Giles Ward R (601)359-3250 gkward@senate.ms.gov
Michael Watson R (601)359-3234 mwatson@senate.ms.gov
Lee Yancey R (601)359-3250 lyancey@senate.ms.gov
Running for State Treasurer

David Baria D (601)359-3234 dbaria@senate.ms.gov
Nickey Browning D (601)359-3226 nbrowning@senate.ms.gov
Hob Bryan D (601)359-3234 no email
Kelvin Butler D (601)359-3244 kbutler@senate.ms.gov
Deborah Dawkins D (601)359-3237 ddawkins@senate.ms.gov
Bob Dearing D (601)359-3244 bdearing@senate.ms.gov
He is in favor of this bill.
Tommy Dickerson D (601)359-3221 tdickerson@senate.ms.gov
John Horhn D (601)359-3237 jhorhn@senate.ms.gov
Robert Jackson D (601)359-3221 rjackson@senate.ms.gov
Kenneth Jones D (601)359-3232 kjones@senate.ms.gov
David Jordan D (601)359-6234 djordan@senate.ms.gov
Eric Powell D (601)359-2886 epowell@senate.ms.gov
Gray Tollison D (601)359-3425 gtollison@senate.ms.gov

Find your legislator http://www.capitolconnect.com/demoassoc1/legislatorsearch.aspx


11 posted on 02/02/2011 7:53:06 PM PST by jdirt
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To: Almondjoy
So they are going to ask the banks to figure out who is here illegally and who is not?

Well, someone has to know about funds going to Mexico from illegal aliens. Otherwise how do they tax the funds?

Sheesh! Is it a full moon?

12 posted on 02/02/2011 8:08:45 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: La Lydia

They say that they will get the money from remittances sent by illegal aliens. Question: If they know who is illegal and sending money back to their countries, then why can’t they prevent them from getting jobs and then round them up and send them home?


13 posted on 02/02/2011 8:13:34 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: jdirt

BTTT.


14 posted on 02/02/2011 8:16:39 PM PST by OddLane
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To: jdirt
Look out - here comes COMPREHENSIVE AMNESTY with a promise of a fence. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS AMERICA !!! WE WILL NEVER SEE THE FENCE BUT THE RAT PARTY WILL HAVE 30 MILLION NEW VOTERS IN TIME FOR 2012!!!!
15 posted on 02/02/2011 8:24:15 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jdirt

LOL!!! didn’t they pass a bill like this....oh a few years ago?

Cher/JERKOFF never built it....


16 posted on 02/02/2011 8:33:06 PM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: eeevil conservative

That’s what I was going to say. They passed the fence funding a few years back...who has that money?


17 posted on 02/02/2011 10:33:26 PM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: jdirt

What a novel idea. States are going to collect money to give to the Federal Gov’t to build a fence. Kinda like the education dollars Washington throws to the states. How can they resist !


18 posted on 02/02/2011 11:16:17 PM PST by 11th_VA (Obamacare - Death by a thousand votes !)
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To: jdirt

Yada yada yada... They can get back to me once the double fence with deep ditch is in place.

If they actually think I trust them at this point they are certifiably delusional.


19 posted on 02/02/2011 11:39:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Kimberly GG
If it wasn’t done on 9/12 by Bush, it never will be.

We have a winner here !!
20 posted on 02/03/2011 5:27:06 AM PST by Scythian
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To: DoughtyOne

Can someone enlighten me as to why Mississippi takes a leadership role in it’s need for a fence?


21 posted on 02/03/2011 5:36:56 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: 11th_VA
What a novel idea. States are going to collect money to give to the Federal Gov’t to build a fence.

No. States are going to collect money to give to the STATES to build the fence. There is no federal involvement whatsoever. We need to be careful not to confuse this effort with anything comming out of washington. This is totally a state driven solution.

22 posted on 02/03/2011 6:35:08 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: jdirt

Cash transfers to non-military personnel in foreign countries should be taxed at a rate of 100%, with the tax being fully tax deductible. Lawful citizens get all the money back when they file their taxes, and illegals working cash under the table suddenly find lower-paying jobs back the home country much more appealing as they only make 50 cents on the dollar here. We can even use the money people don’t recollect at the end of every year to build a fence. This plan chases the illegals out, and uses their own money to keep them out. Seems perfect to me!


23 posted on 02/03/2011 7:19:56 AM PST by VonMisesPieces (Free Elections. Free Markets. Free Society.)
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To: jdirt

I hate to rain on Mississippi’s parade, but (i) levying a tax on money transfers solely when they go to foreign countries would be a clear violation of the Dormant Commerce Clause (and thus could only be done by the federal government, not by a state) and (ii) the federal government, not the states, are in charge of our international borders. While it is true that federal law currently states that a fence should be built among great swaths of our border with Mexico, I don’t think that AZ or TX would be allowed build the fence themselves.


24 posted on 02/03/2011 7:21:28 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: hattend

>who has that money?<

Goldman Sachs?

The Muslim Brotherhood?

SEIU?

ACORN?


25 posted on 02/03/2011 7:22:53 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: jdirt

Thanks for leading the way on this, Mississippi.

The central government has failed us.

The states are going to have to reassert their sovereignty.

BUMP.


26 posted on 02/03/2011 7:25:23 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: VonMisesPieces

“Cash transfers to non-military personnel in foreign countries should be taxed at a rate of 100%, with the tax being fully tax deductible. Lawful citizens get all the money back when they file their taxes, and illegals working cash under the table suddenly find lower-paying jobs back the home country much more appealing as they only make 50 cents on the dollar here.”


Sounds like a good idea, assuming that it is tweaked so that people who don’t have to fill out tax forms for legitimate reasons don’t get hit with a 100% tax (think of 90-year-old grandmothers without taxable investment income)when they send mome money to their grandchild in Europe. However, such tax could only be levied by the federal government, since it would be a regulation of commerce with foreign countries.


27 posted on 02/03/2011 7:27:27 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: mazda77

Probably because (it’s) border states have been so over-run, that it feels the need to defend itself. ;^)


28 posted on 02/03/2011 7:30:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


29 posted on 02/03/2011 7:55:06 AM PST by HiJinx (What new decade?)
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To: Pelham

Good start! Thanks for the ping, Pelham.


30 posted on 02/03/2011 8:22:42 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

1. OK already has this law.

2. The fence can be built on any private land. All they need is a permit from the county. it must be built 60 feet from the actual border.

if the federal government prohibits the states from building the border fence on public and federal land, while the states are sitting on a billion dollars, Americans will go into an outrage!!!


31 posted on 02/04/2011 8:59:07 PM PST by jdirt
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To: mazda77

Can someone enlighten me as to why Mississippi takes a leadership role in it’s need for a fence?

Because our neighbors are in mortal danger. Do we send aid when a neighbor state has a flood? hurricane? tornado?

This is no different. If people are being killed in the US, that is all our concern.

Are we the divided STates of AMerica or the United STates of America. It way past time for the States to protect us. The Federal government wants illegal aliens here. And even if they did suddenly decide to start building the border fence again, it will be another 20 years fighting on where they will get the money.

Mississippi is doing this because we care about the people in AZ, because States need to change the way they think and because it will help us too ultimately.


32 posted on 02/04/2011 9:04:49 PM PST by jdirt
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If they know who is illegal and sending money back to their countries, then why can’t they prevent them from getting jobs and then round them up and send them home?

States can’t deport as far as I know. The feds are on the catch and release plan.


33 posted on 02/04/2011 9:09:06 PM PST by jdirt
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To: jdirt

34 posted on 02/04/2011 9:14:11 PM PST by jdirt
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To: jdirt

OK taxes “remittances” going to foreign countries? Frankly, I can’t see how that law could withstand judicial scrutiny.

But providing money for a fund to defray the costs of private landowners building a fence near the border? That sounds fine, although I don’t know how effective it would be at keeping out illegal aliens having a fence removed from the border.


35 posted on 02/05/2011 6:26:23 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Well let’s say you have a ranch that’s 35 miles wide. If you had a fence put up in your back yard, the illegals might go around and you wouldn’t have to wake up in the middle of the night to the sound of someone sneaking around your front yard or looking in your garage. Those folks would be alot safer than it being wide open. If eventually the whole border of AZ is fenced, they will have to choose where is the easiest to get across. It would funnel people to those areas where the border patrol will be waiting.


36 posted on 02/05/2011 7:19:21 PM PST by jdirt
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To: jdirt

Good idea to tax the money they send home, but I’m not sure how Mississippi can pay for a border fence.

The State should just keep the money and uses it to fund extra law enforcement or whatever else they think of domestic utility in the discouragement of illegal aliens labor.


37 posted on 02/12/2011 1:20:08 AM PST by Monorprise
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