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Why Obama has to get Egypt right
The Washington Post ^ | February 3, 2011 | George Soros

Posted on 02/02/2011 8:53:03 PM PST by rmlew

Revolutions usually start with enthusiasm and end in tears. In the case of the Middle East, the tears could be avoided if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected. Although American power and influence in the world have declined, our allies and their armies look to us for direction.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aipac; arrowcross; georgesoros; ikhawan; muslimbrotherhood; selfloathing; smearfinancier; soros; spookydude
"The main stumbling block is Israel. In reality, Israel has as much to gain from the spread of democracy in the Middle East as the United States has. But Israel is unlikely to recognize its own best interests because the change is too sudden and carries too many risks. And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves. Fortunately, Obama is not beholden to the religious right, which has carried on a veritable vendetta against him. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community. The main danger is that the Obama administration will not adjust its policies quickly enough to the suddenly changed reality."

Had to quote that. Soros's organization's helped foment this revolution. He is now calling for hte Muslim Brotherhood to be part of the new Egypt. He calls Israel and Jews a stumbling block to democracy.

Can Israel please issue a warrant and charge Arrow Cross Soros for his war crimes before he starts World War 3?

1 posted on 02/02/2011 8:53:05 PM PST by rmlew
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To: Winged Hussar; Paleo Conservative; Cacique; Yehuda; dennisw; SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 02/02/2011 8:54:52 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: rmlew

Soros is a bitter old man full of hate for everyone. Including himself. One sick bastard.


3 posted on 02/02/2011 8:55:41 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare funds 16,000 new tax collectors but no new doctors. Now that's what I call "green" jobs.)
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To: rmlew

Well....isn’t this special!


4 posted on 02/02/2011 8:55:54 PM PST by lonestar
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To: rmlew

Obama’s already screwed Egypt up, and I mean BIG TIME. And it’s so sickening that anyone would have the audacity to blame Israel and the Jews for it.


5 posted on 02/02/2011 8:56:19 PM PST by wk4bush2004 (PALIN 2012! AMERICA WILL SHINE AGAIN!)
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To: rmlew

“...the tears could be avoided if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected. ..”

Black power?


6 posted on 02/02/2011 8:58:48 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: wk4bush2004

Leave it to George “Kapo” Soros to do it.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 8:59:32 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: rmlew
Although American power and influence in the world have declined, our allies and their armies look to us for direction.

Where does this jackass get off using the word "us" when talking about the USA? This foreign traitor is not a part of "us"! Leave it to the WaPooh to give this POS a mouthpiece.

8 posted on 02/02/2011 9:00:25 PM PST by downtownconservative
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To: rmlew

Screw the warrant - he needs to meet a wood chipper up close & personal.


9 posted on 02/02/2011 9:00:51 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rmlew

Obama is such a “turtle on a fence post”, I’ve wondered and wondered why he was put there...

I think Soros is answering that question.


10 posted on 02/02/2011 9:00:55 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: rmlew
"As a committed advocate of democracy and open society, I cannot help but share in the enthusiasm that is sweeping across the Middle East."

Yeah....right, you scumbag Soros

11 posted on 02/02/2011 9:01:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (Socialism is organized stupidity. 2nd thought...I think DEMOCRATS are Organized Stupidity.)
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To: rmlew

Obama screwed up by sticking his nose where it’s not supposed to be.


12 posted on 02/02/2011 9:04:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: rmlew
I see a good chance of success.

Care to define success Georgie?

13 posted on 02/02/2011 9:09:21 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Soros make his money when things loose value.

The DNc is lead by a man that is doing all he can to make certain everything within a presidents control looses value.


14 posted on 02/02/2011 9:16:44 PM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: rmlew

FUGS..and if I knew how to make that big and bold I would!


15 posted on 02/02/2011 9:17:32 PM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: rmlew
Why Obama has to get Egypt right

Right for the Muslim Brotherhood or the US?

16 posted on 02/02/2011 9:17:42 PM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: rmlew

Too late, Obama was campaigning and partying with the media while Cairo burned.

The blood is on his hands.


17 posted on 02/02/2011 9:18:14 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“...the tears could be avoided if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected. ..”

Which values are those? I’m not Bush?

That’s gonna work. /sarc


18 posted on 02/02/2011 9:20:56 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: rmlew

if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected—

Oh like the “American flag is a symbol of oppression” and He “will stand Muslims when the political winds shift in an ugly direction”...those values???

Because other than that, I haven’t seen any ‘values’ from Obama. (he does love using the American citizenry as an open ended credit card for golf, vacations and wild trillion dollar spending spree’s.)


19 posted on 02/02/2011 9:21:06 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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A foreign American-hater buys time in the Washington Post so as to lecture us on how to behave in the Middle East. Another sign of MSM decadence.
20 posted on 02/02/2011 9:31:43 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: rmlew
As a committed advocate of democracy and open society, I cannot help but share in the enthusiasm that is sweeping across the Middle East. I hope President Obama will expeditiously support the people of Egypt. My foundations are prepared to contribute what they can. In practice, that means establishing resource centers for supporting the rule of law, constitutional reform, fighting corruption and strengthening democratic institutions in those countries that request help in establishing them, while staying out of those countries where such efforts are not welcome.

Then keep your "resource centers" the hell out of America because you ain't welcome.


21 posted on 02/02/2011 9:38:38 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: tina07
FUGS
22 posted on 02/02/2011 9:41:02 PM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: rmlew

Violent uprisings are NOT democratic. Mubarak promising to stand aside at the next scheduled election IS democratic.

Naturally, B. Hussein Os*^thead stands AGAINST democratic principles.


23 posted on 02/02/2011 9:45:01 PM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: rmlew

When the planes hit the towers on 9-11, James Carville of CNN and the left, knew that would be what they would drudge Bush with relentlessly, purely for political reasons.

The right needs a James Carville. NOW


24 posted on 02/02/2011 9:56:37 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: capydick

Thanks!!


25 posted on 02/02/2011 10:24:43 PM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Army Air Corps

Perfect name for him!


26 posted on 02/02/2011 10:31:14 PM PST by milagro
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To: rmlew
It is scum like Soros that cause wars, that cause people to kill each other. In every war there is always a third party benefactor, history proves it. It's puzzling why civilization hasn't eliminated the instigator/profiteers first before starting to kill each other.
27 posted on 02/02/2011 10:59:49 PM PST by drypowder
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To: rmlew
[George Soros']foundations are prepared to contribute what they can. In practice, that means establishing resource centers for supporting the rule of law, constitutional reform, fighting corruption and strengthening democratic institutions in those countries that request help in establishing them...

That explains the presence of Code Pink and International A.N.S.W.E.R

28 posted on 02/02/2011 11:18:31 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: MortMan
Violent uprisings are NOT democratic. Mubarak promising to stand aside at the next scheduled election IS democratic.

So just so I understand, you basically would have sided with King George had he promised to allow elections in 1777?

Your statement might be construed in a manner that would condemn the American Revolution as a non-democratic undertaking.

29 posted on 02/02/2011 11:24:16 PM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: rmlew

F*** SOROS!

Anti-Semitic Anti-American Nazi collaborator bastard!


30 posted on 02/02/2011 11:26:25 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I don’t remmeber our Founding Father’s including communists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood. This is not 1776 or even 1789. Try 1979 and drop the cultural relativism.


31 posted on 02/02/2011 11:29:26 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: rmlew

It’s worth remembering at his time;; 90 percent of the Nations in the world could solve 90 percent of their problems if their ‘’leaders’’ would allow it.


32 posted on 02/02/2011 11:55:02 PM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Luckily no one lives forever, including Soros.


33 posted on 02/03/2011 12:00:34 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: rmlew

George Soros? ‘nuff said!


34 posted on 02/03/2011 1:33:08 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: rmlew; MortMan

I call BS. Look what the MortManwrote. He said that violence can never be used for a Democratic process. This isn’t cultural relativism this is me calling him on an absolutist statement.

The US also won WWII with the help of Communists and Muslims. Does that make it less legitimate?

To be against a positive democratic move in the ME just because a democrat is in the White House is to be a RAT onesself. This all happened because of Bush and my impression is that rather than be happy for the progress (and yes, these things are never certain) there are a lot of people around here who can’t get themselves out of the mindset that somehow we need to find something bad so we can blame Obama. The only people who I thought I could imagine doing that (from 2000 - 2008) are at the DU.


35 posted on 02/03/2011 4:23:27 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Using profanity gives people who don't want information from you an excuse not to listen.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Soros makes one believe in demon possession. ;)


36 posted on 02/03/2011 4:37:03 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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37 posted on 02/03/2011 5:33:30 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Just so you understand, I am making the point that Egypt has a democratic system already. The elected leader (albeit a strongman type of ruler) has agreed to stand aside and let the country select a new leader in the regularly scheduled elections in September.

Obama is fanning the flames to have an extra-democtratic solution to the Egyptian leadership crisis - to step around the process already in place and allow the mob to dictate who will lead the country, without giving the rest of the country (the ones not rioting) a voice in the process.

Your invocation of the American revolution is a strawman fallacy, and is repulsive. I was making the explicit point that Egypt already has a democratic method for transferring power. That is hardly appropriate to the colonies in 1776.


38 posted on 02/03/2011 7:06:35 AM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: rmlew

39 posted on 02/03/2011 10:03:29 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
The US also won WWII with the help of Communists and Muslims. Does that make it less legitimate?
Muslims, which Muslim country? I think you mean colonial troops for the British. However, Muslim countries were pro-Nazi. We invaded Iran. The Muslim Brotherhood and Ba'athists supported the Nazis.
AS for the Communists, it'sa complex black mark. The USSR was funcitonally allied to Nazi Germany from August 1939 until May 1941, when they split up Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. Communists in France and other allied countries tried to sabotage the allied war efforts. They only flipped when Nazi Germany invaded the USSR. They weren't our allies. They were the enemy of the enemy, who used us.

I opposed Bush's Democracy for the Muslim Brotherhood Project and Iranian influence, just as I oppose Obamas. Wislon was an evil fool. Pick up Samuel Huntington's Clash of Civilizations.

40 posted on 02/03/2011 11:45:16 AM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: rmlew; Cacique

he’s a kapo.


41 posted on 02/03/2011 4:21:33 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: rmlew
if President Obama stands firmly by the values that got him elected.

That is one of the most hilarious expressions of naivete I've ever read.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

42 posted on 02/03/2011 4:29:26 PM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet, and nobody's been answering the phone since 2008.)
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To: rmlew

What a bitter and mean old man. How is Israel the main stubling block here? Of course Israel wants stability, it wants peace. But Israel cannot stop anything from happening inside Egypt. There are more people protesting in the Egyptian Square than live in all of Tel Aviv!

The problem is that Egypt is spinning rapidly out of control. There is really only 2 possible outcomes now - crowds subside and Mubarak is pressured to prepare for free and fair elections in September, or, the Army takes over, smashes the protests and does the same.

(Of course, the army or Mubarak could decide not to hold elections but I think that would be too much to bear for either). Why Soros thinks the Egyptian people would want the Muslim Brotherhood to lead them is beyond me. In my limited experience, the Egyptian people are not going to fall for Islamic rule. However, no matter which course is taken, it will take time to get elections started. Parties need to form, ballots made, campaigning etc. And given the time to set up parties and campaign, the people will get a real choice to decide the fate of the country. The mob - and Obama - are wrong to insist on immediate action because that simply means military rule, the opposite of what they claim to desire, or they will end up with a coalition including Islamists without a vote ever taking place. El Baradei is NOT and should not be guaranteed the leadership no matter what at this stage. He needs to form a party and campaign and that same right needs to be extended to all. That takes some time in a country that has had 30 years of one party rule.

This is just an Israel hater doing what he does best - blaming Israel for things out of Israel’s control.


43 posted on 02/03/2011 5:47:22 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: rmlew

What is ‘right’ for Soro/Obama per Egypt is WRONG for the Free World. Interesting, to see GS come out into the ‘light’ and more as of late. Like a rat in daylight. . .


44 posted on 02/03/2011 7:31:05 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: rmlew; cricket; All

that would be ‘Soros/Obama’. . .of course and a bump for thread while at it.


45 posted on 02/03/2011 7:33:04 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: rmlew; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...
Thanks rmlew. We may need a companion topic, "Why Obama Won't Get Egypt Right". First post will have him bowing to his master, the Saudi king.
46 posted on 02/04/2011 4:06:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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