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Why Was Cowboys Stadium Exempt From Blackouts?(Immoral to blackout hospitals but not football)
cbs ^ | 2/3/11

Posted on 02/03/2011 8:14:16 AM PST by bestintxas

As brief power outages rolled across the state on Wednesday, certain places were intended to be exempt from a temporary loss of electricity. That included hospitals, nursing homes, fire stations, police stations, other emergency response facilities… and Cowboys Stadium?

When officials with Oncor said that the Arlington site of Sunday’s Super Bowl XLV would not be a part of the rolling outages, many residents became furious. But this was not entirely a choice made by the local utility company.

With thousands of reporters huddled in North Texas hotels and thousands of rabid football fans attending the NFL Experience at the Dallas Convention Center, and two football teams preparing to do battle on the field of Cowboys Stadium this Sunday, the North Texas Super Bowl XLV Host Committee had a big request to make. “It is vitally important we don’t have blackouts,” said committee vice president Tony Fay.

Fay asked the City of Dallas, the City of Fort Worth and the City of Arlington to ensure that rolling blackouts did not prevent planned events from happening at Super Bowl venues. That news really steamed up some homeowners who were left without power for hours. “We’re not prioritizing,” said frustrated Plano resident Allen Hooser. “Hospitals and the grocery store, which is out. But for a PR stunt, where you can go throw a football, you have power and heat.”

“Not because of any preferential treatment. Not because we’re trying to protect VIPs or celebrities,” Fay explained. “It is a public safety issue.” According to Fay, if there was to be a blackout at an NFL venue, then there would be no way to screen for security.

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I think this epitomizes a degradation of our society when ailing people in hospitals suffer in orde to allow football venues to be unaffected.
1 posted on 02/03/2011 8:14:19 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

Yep. Its a discussion going on right now, they paved roads to and from all super bowl activities but forgot to help the people in the cities. School has been closed for 3 days. Its insane. Dollar to donuts school will be closed tomorrow as well.


2 posted on 02/03/2011 8:16:29 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?o)
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To: bestintxas
when ailing people in hospitals suffer

Where is there evidence of the hospitals being affected?

The story says they are exempt.

3 posted on 02/03/2011 8:16:44 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: bestintxas

Why the heck doesn’t Texas have enough power to meet its needs? Is this some third world country? It gets cold every year. They should plan for this. I’d be embarrassed if I were a Texan.


4 posted on 02/03/2011 8:18:45 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: bestintxas
If the NFL thinks that having power at a stadium is so critical, then why shouldn't it foot the bill for a backup power generation system.

These worthless welfare queens, who had the taxpayers pay for their stadium, should be at the bottom of the list of entities to get power.

5 posted on 02/03/2011 8:20:13 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: bestintxas

Not if you think football is more important than life itself.

I thought you Texans took your football seriously?


6 posted on 02/03/2011 8:20:51 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 744 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: SoothingDave
Why the heck doesn’t Texas have enough power to meet its needs? Is this some third world country? It gets cold every year. They should plan for this. I’d be embarrassed if I were a Texan.

because we even have politically correct douchetards in Austin that bought into the global warming scam and are shutting down oil, coal and natural gas plants for windmill farms of Pickens.

f'ing a#@holes. we need to repeal all the damage done by the legislation passed because of this scam.

7 posted on 02/03/2011 8:22:51 AM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

They were supposed to be exempt.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/02/blackouts-anger-dallas-hospitals/


8 posted on 02/03/2011 8:23:02 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: SoothingDave

Politics. We opted for Wind turbines in West Texas, that do not move due to high wind!!!


9 posted on 02/03/2011 8:23:14 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?o)
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To: bestintxas

I think I’ll pass on the Super Bowl this year. It’s gotten to the heights of ridiculous when an entertainment event is more important than hospitals. Tells us a lot about our society.


10 posted on 02/03/2011 8:23:57 AM PST by popdonnelly (If Obama improves education, who'll vote for him?)
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To: bestintxas

...but hey...maybe we all should run out and buy electric cars.
*groan*


11 posted on 02/03/2011 8:24:36 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: bestintxas
Don't hospitals AND (most) modern football stadium have back-up generators? It seems like this should have been a non-issue, with the appropriate pre-planning and advance notification.

Is my logic flawed?

12 posted on 02/03/2011 8:25:34 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: bestintxas

I can believe that any hospital in this country does not have emergency power generators to keep everything running during outages. Where did you hear of people suffering in hospitals for lack of power?


13 posted on 02/03/2011 8:26:31 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: bestintxas

And, if America wouldn’t have built its last nuclear power plant more than 30-years ago (very much UNLIKE France), this wouldn’t be a problem. We would have PLENTY of electricity, powered by a near-inexhaustible supply of fuel.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 8:27:06 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: popdonnelly

It’s not. Hospitals are exempt. Read the article.

It’s ridiculous to think that the NFL would ever think twice about returning to a city/state that can’t even provide the basics to the visitors who spend lots of money to attend the Super Bowl festivities.


16 posted on 02/03/2011 8:27:07 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Dick Vomer

Austin, btw has been for the most part immune from the power outages. It always hits San Antonio worst of all.

The pols aren’t stupid.

I really can’t understand why Texas is so prone to power outages. All they have to do is construct more power plants.


17 posted on 02/03/2011 8:27:32 AM PST by BenKenobi (one of the worst mistakes anybody can make is to bet against Americans.")
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To: bestintxas

Hospitals are exempt from the rolling blackouts.

That being said, all hospitals have backup emergency power.


18 posted on 02/03/2011 8:28:00 AM PST by waterhill
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To: bestintxas

Bull.
I can guarantee that hospitals get first dibs on nat gas and electric power.


19 posted on 02/03/2011 8:28:17 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: bestintxas

The fall of the Roman Empire began when all the people cared about were bread and circuses....

Do I detect a parallet?


20 posted on 02/03/2011 8:28:54 AM PST by ixtl (You live and learn; or you don't live long.)
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To: All

The link in post 8 relates that hospitals were in fact blacked out, providing detail not available in the article that started this thread.


21 posted on 02/03/2011 8:34:14 AM PST by dmz
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To: All

They WERE SUPPOSED to be exempt. SUPPOSEDLY ONCOR “made a mistake.”

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/02/blackouts-anger-dallas-hospitals/


22 posted on 02/03/2011 8:34:25 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: bestintxas

From Death Race 2000

The staff of Mercy Hospital prepares invalid patients for the arrival of the Pittsburg Steelers Team Bus.

23 posted on 02/03/2011 8:34:46 AM PST by Haiku Guy (You can't beat something with nothing, no matter how bad that something is.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
They WERE SUPPOSED to be exempt. SUPPOSEDLY ONCOR “made a mistake.”


24 posted on 02/03/2011 8:37:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SoothingDave
Why the heck doesn’t Texas have enough power to meet its needs? Is this some third world country? It gets cold every year. They should plan for this. I’d be embarrassed if I were a Texan.

Texas has had a huge influx of new people over the past several years. They come across the border and they come from other states that, well, suck. This has rapidly increased demand and there have not been any new power plants built recently. We need to start building new plants. Nuke plants I hope.

Besides the demand I heard some of the power facilities go in to shutdown or maintaneance this time of year. So some of the capacity is offline. One amusing thing is that we are pulling some power from Mexico right now. LOL!

Fortunately, Texas is on its own grid and we can at least control the issue through brownouts. Even still, the situation is unacceptable.

As for myself all my properties have Generac natural gas units that come online if the power goes out. Unfortunately, as far as Internet & TV Comcast goes down but T-1 and DSL lines function during power outages as does my wi-fi hot spot. So, while my neighbors were in the dark and getting cold I was warm and toasty watching netflix on my iPad yesterday:)

You're right though. This is absurd for the great state of Texas. We need more power plants. Maybe some powered by burning Mexicans*. We have a lot of those.

* Just joking, kinda...

25 posted on 02/03/2011 8:37:36 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: bestintxas

Your title appears to be incorrect. There are a list of places that are exempt to the blackouts. Hospitals are included in the list. If you have anyone to blame about this it should be the voters in Texas. Your elected officials have created a power grid that is an Ecoweenies dream. That is where your anger should be directed.

At least the Super Bowl will boost the heck out of the economy there for sure. I’m sure local businesses and workers are happy for this event.


26 posted on 02/03/2011 8:39:22 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: dfwgator

Put Jerry’s face on the guy with the pulled plug.


27 posted on 02/03/2011 8:39:48 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: popdonnelly
I agree with your post. The Super Bowl is ridiculous and embarrassing. I think the NFL has “jumped the shark.”
28 posted on 02/03/2011 8:42:17 AM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: bestintxas

Where was ESPN’s Jim Rome broadcasting from for his afternoon show in Dallas yesterday? His guest was Cowboy’s Jay Ratliff and both of them were seeing their breath as they spoke, so it was evident there was no heat in the room they were in. Rome had on woolen mittens to hold the mic.
As for the heat staying on in Jerry’s World, you betcha. That is considered essential during Super Bowl week.


29 posted on 02/03/2011 8:42:27 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Lazlo in PA

LOL! Are you kidding? Do you know how many tens of thousands of ticketholders and VIPs are still sitting at home due to cancelled flights? No one is driving to any of the early parties and events this week. No one can get out.

They are losing money big time, with every passing minute.


30 posted on 02/03/2011 8:42:57 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: bestintxas
From the article:

But there is another, unavoidable reason that Cowboys Stadium will not experience a blackout. That venue sits on multiple power grids. If one goes out, another flips on seamlessly, without any interruption to power. So, although one grid might see a blackout, the rolling outage process ensures that the stadium is always receiving power from another grid.

No hospitals suffered under the rolling blackouts. Save your hand-wringing immorality passion play for the DU; here we embrace the truth.

Go Packers!

31 posted on 02/03/2011 8:47:09 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: Lazlo in PA
At least the Super Bowl will boost the heck out of the economy there for sure. I’m sure local businesses and workers are happy for this event.

Unfortunately, I don't think the local businesses will be seeing half of the potential dollars they could be seeing due to the ongoing weather conditions.

32 posted on 02/03/2011 8:47:13 AM PST by Envisioning (Call me a racist,........one more time.....)
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To: OldDeckHand

“Don’t hospitals AND (most) modern football stadium have back-up generators? It seems like this should have been a non-issue, with the appropriate pre-planning and advance notification.”

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Idiot TV reporter did multiple broadcasts from parking lot at corner of intersection where power was out including the traffic lights. He was pointing out the inconvenience to travelers unable to get coffee/warm food at the McDonalds.

Meanwhile, a block away is one of the largest hospitals in the DFW area. The moron didn’t mention it once. Nothing about power, dangers to ambulances trying to drive on icy roads without traffic lights working etc.

The priorities here are mixed up to say the least. Jerry Jones must be laughing his @ss off that the local fools screwed the taxpayer once again to subsidize his stadium.


33 posted on 02/03/2011 8:47:33 AM PST by peyton randolph (There is no such thing as moderate Islam)
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To: SoothingDave

“Why the heck doesn’t Texas have enough power to meet its needs?”

We do. In the summer heat, we can supply peak use without much trouble. However, this was caused by 50 power plants in the northern half of the state going down because they were not properly winterized. That means shoddy work from contractors who should know that once a decade north Texas gets these blizzards when the mercury plunges below zero. Gov. Perry better get his act together and investigate why pipes at power plants are not required to have adequate insulation to stay operational in a cold emergency.


34 posted on 02/03/2011 8:47:49 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Izzy Dunne

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/02/blackouts-anger-dallas-hospitals/


35 posted on 02/03/2011 8:51:43 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: SoothingDave

“It’s not. Hospitals are exempt. Read the article.”

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/02/blackouts-anger-dallas-hospitals/


36 posted on 02/03/2011 8:54:19 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: kittymyrib

Thank you for a useful answer. Contractors generally do what they are contracted to do. If the specs on whatever “winterization” they were asked to do are inadequate, then it is not the fault of the contractors.

It will be interesting to see what was specified.


37 posted on 02/03/2011 8:54:46 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Your title appears to be incorrect. There are a list of places that are exempt to the blackouts. Hospitals are included in the list. “

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/02/blackouts-anger-dallas-hospitals/


38 posted on 02/03/2011 8:55:31 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: BenKenobi

“Austin, btw has been for the most part immune from the power outages.”

Not this time. Austin started blackouts with 45 min. off power and 25 min. on power yesterday morning and will continue it today when needed. It caused 65 accidents at 4:00 PM, when workers finally gave up getting anything done with such limited power and were trying to head home with no traffic lights.


39 posted on 02/03/2011 8:56:20 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: BraveMan

“No hospitals suffered under the rolling blackouts. Save your hand-wringing immorality passion play for the DU; here we embrace the truth.”

read the last sentence here. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/02/02/blackouts-anger-dallas-hospitals/

Do you realize the importance of computers and medical equipment in the health profession, particularly at a hospital?


40 posted on 02/03/2011 8:58:01 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: bestintxas

“Why Was Cowboys Stadium Exempt From Blackouts”
____________________________________________________________________________________________

Well folks... It’s called.. “The Golden Rule”.

Those who have the gold make the rules.


41 posted on 02/03/2011 9:02:26 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: bestintxas
Do you realize the importance of computers and medical equipment in the health profession, particularly at a hospital?

Do you realize the importance of positng the correct link at the top of the thread?

42 posted on 02/03/2011 9:03:29 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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To: TankerKC

there is more than one link. I cannot post them all as per rules here.

BTW, answering a Q with a Q generally means you have no argument.


43 posted on 02/03/2011 9:06:06 AM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: bestintxas

Sorry, I’m a football fan and I don’t see how keeping the power on for football is “vitally important” when compared to hospitals and other public health and safety offices.

It’s all a matter of perspective on what is viewed as “vitally important”, but IMO, the people of the Arlington, D-FW areas should have top priority over the visitors.


44 posted on 02/03/2011 9:07:56 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: bestintxas
there is more than one link. I cannot post them all as per rules here.

Sure you can. Post as many as you need to make your point.

45 posted on 02/03/2011 9:08:52 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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To: All

I find it interesting that the utilities cannot keep up with the demand during the cold but have little or no difficulty keeping up with the demand in the summer when all the A/C is running. Just saying.

If TX is like the utilities in CO the monopoly of gov’t regulated utilities may be the issue.


46 posted on 02/03/2011 9:11:33 AM PST by MCCC
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To: bestintxas

The rolling blackouts are bad but the low gas pressure in residential lines is stunning!!

DFW is sitting atop a huge natural gas reserve called the Barnett Shale. It’s almost too funny. Some of the customers
that were affected like in Colleyville and Grapevine might be the folks who got gas contracts for their neighborhoods!!

Ha! The irony.


47 posted on 02/03/2011 9:11:59 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: bestintxas

My wife works at Methodist Hospital in Richardson, which is a suburb directly north of Dallas. They have 4 blackouts yesterday and she said that each time all of their equipment (she works in a lab) had to be reset and tests had to be restarted.


48 posted on 02/03/2011 9:13:54 AM PST by gop4lyf ("Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.")
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To: bestintxas

You missed the some people are more equal than others clause, just ask queen Nancy. “You’ve got to be kidding me!”


49 posted on 02/03/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: OldDeckHand
Don't hospitals AND (most) modern football stadium have back-up generators?

I can't speak to hospitals, but most commercial buildings have a back up generator. These generators only supply specific loads, however. In an office building this would include emergency lighting, some elevator service and emergency equipment like fire alarms, fire pumps and emergency fans.

Putting in generators that could supply all the power to everything would be extremely expensive. Huge generators, huge transfer switches, lots of big expensive wiring. Also, if you use the generators for anything but power outages, like during price spikes, you then fall under all the regulations of a utility. You need emmissions controls, more inspections, licenses, etc.

It's a government thing.

50 posted on 02/03/2011 9:16:04 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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