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Indian Navy to buy four more P-8Is aircraft
The Economic Times, India ^ | 3 Feb, 2011 | Biswarup Gooptu

Posted on 02/03/2011 11:27:02 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

3 Feb, 2011, 05.07PM IST, Biswarup Gooptu,ET Bureau

Indian Navy to buy four more P-8Is aircraft

BANGALORE: The Indian Navy has decided to exercise its option for an additional four Boeing P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft in a bid to boost its maritime patrol capabilities as well as counter piracy threats and the growing Chinese influence in the Indian Ocean.

In a deal expected to range between $1 billion to $1.5 billion, the new aircraft will be in addition to the eight the Navy had ordered in January 2009, for about $2.1 billion. The new contract price is also expected to include the cost of aero-structures and avionics.

“The Indian Navy has received the necessary government approvals and has decided to go ahead with the contractual processes to acquire four additional P-8I aircraft under the options clause,” Commander PVS Satish, public relations officer for the Indian Navy told The Economic Times.

According to sources, Boeing has already submitted its draft offset contract to the defence ministry last week. “The government is considering exercising the option of adding four P-8I aircraft,” Dr Vivek Lall, vice-president, Boeing Defence, Space & Security told ET. The P-8I, which is based on the Boeing next-generation 737 commercial airplane, is a variant of the P-8A Poseidon that the defence vendor Boeing is developing for the US Navy. India is the first international customer for the P-8 platform.

The first of the eight P-8I aircraft, which were bought through the direct commercial sales route with Boeing, are expected to be delivered to India within 48 months of the original contract signing. The aircraft are of supreme strategic importance for India’s naval forces, with the country looking to enhance its role in the high seas.

Further, the global community has been clamouring for India to play a more dominant policing role against sea piracy in the Straits of Malacca, which is one of the busiest commercial and military sea-routes in the world, and along the East African coast.

Also, in the ongoing scramble for sea power in the world’s thirdlargest ocean, India has been desperate to stop what it perceives as a growing Chinese hegemony in the region. Separately, Boeing has also submitted a reply to the Navy’s Request for Information for six medium-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft as well.

However, ministry sources did not confirm whether any of the other global defence vendors had responded to the same. Others expected to be in the running for the contract include Russia’s Ilyushin, France’s Dassault and EADS . Like most defence deals pursued in India, the acquisition of the MRMR aircraft has followed a long and tortuous route. With the original global Request for Procurement issued in 2008, before the Mumbai attacks, the same was later scrapped by the defence ministry on certain technical grounds.

The current RFI also specifies the aircraft should be able to carry out electronic intelligence gathering and counter-measures, besides maritime patrol and search and rescue within an operational envelope of 350 nautical miles or almost 650 kilometres, as well as a patrol endurance of at least three and a half hours.

There are additional requirements that the aircraft be capable of carrying at least two anti-ship missiles and a jamming pod. As with the P-8I, the navy has specified in the RFI that certain pieces of equipment must be indigenous, like Identification Friend or Foe Interrogator with Secure Mode, MSS Terminal, BFE, Datalink and Speech Secrecy Equipment and vendors must indicate their commitment to integrate this equipment into the aircraft.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; india; indiannavy; navair

1 posted on 02/03/2011 11:27:05 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Crappy loiter time, and only two missiles. Sheesh. Bring back the PBY. Or, The AIR TRACTOR !!! Photobucket
2 posted on 02/03/2011 11:36:58 AM PST by onona (Fullly aware that I may be totally F. O. S.)
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To: magslinger

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3 posted on 02/03/2011 11:47:53 AM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: onona

It carries more than two missiles plus other ASW weapons. Also, where is the sensor suite on that wee air tractor?


4 posted on 02/03/2011 11:53:14 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: onona
Crappy assessment.
5 posted on 02/03/2011 11:57:01 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

P-8A Poseidon Movie Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgTv5DrJLcM


6 posted on 02/03/2011 11:58:57 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Here’s another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWBYvb71CTk


7 posted on 02/03/2011 12:08:55 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Indeed. Latest bloc Harpoons on harpoints plus five more in an internal weapons bay. Anti-submarine torpedoes and mines. MAD, sonobuoys, multiple datalinks, etc. No comparison.


8 posted on 02/03/2011 12:09:24 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

We should be offering to build them a carrier.


9 posted on 02/03/2011 12:13:10 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Army Air Corps

“Also, where is the sensor suite on that wee air tractor?”

The “sensor suite” is whatever the pilot hears over the engine. ;)


10 posted on 02/03/2011 12:15:38 PM PST by Levante
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To: Always Independent

They are building one to replace the INS Viraat. Also, they are going to acquire a Russian carrier-cruiser (Ex-Admiral Gorshkov). We could always offer one of our recently decommissioned conventional carriers, but that may be a bit pricey.


11 posted on 02/03/2011 12:17:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Levante

Bwahahaha!


12 posted on 02/03/2011 12:18:52 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

They don’t need a super sized carrier, they need specialized for service in the Indian ocean.


13 posted on 02/03/2011 12:33:45 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Army Air Corps
Offering recently decommissioned aircraft carriers to a friend would be really bad form.

A buddy of mine was a MCPO on the USS America (the last non-nuke carrier?) He said it was more dangerous duty than his days as a helicopter door gunner in RVN. Said he was happy to hear that damn thing sank with nobody aboard!

If we want to help India, give them a new one!

14 posted on 02/03/2011 12:43:14 PM PST by Don Carlos (Don't tell mom I'm running for congress. She thinks I still play piano in a whorehouse.)
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To: Always Independent

We don’t make small carriers. The closest thing we have to a baby carrier would be an LPH. The last carriers we built in the displacement range that you suggest was the Midway-class carriers.


15 posted on 02/03/2011 12:45:51 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Don Carlos

It depends on the condition of the ship upon decomm and how well it is rennovated for its new life. We have sold decomm ships to a lot of allies over the decades. That said, what would India do with a supercarrier? Outside of an LPH, that is pretty much all we would have to offer for carrier aviation at the moment.


16 posted on 02/03/2011 12:51:28 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Well, we could also offer an LHD.


17 posted on 02/03/2011 1:02:03 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; investigateworld; lowbuck; ...
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18 posted on 02/03/2011 1:07:00 PM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: Army Air Corps

I’m aware of that, but we could design anbuild anything they want.


19 posted on 02/03/2011 1:22:09 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Always Independent

No dispute there. But they are already building one themselves and getting a refurbished Russian carrier-cruiser. These would be in the fleet faster than it would take for a shipyard here to design and build one for them. Now, if your are talking about building a third such carrier for the Indian Navy, then that could be an option that they could explore.


20 posted on 02/03/2011 1:28:06 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

You’re, not your...


21 posted on 02/03/2011 1:32:44 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Its obvious we’re behind the curve here, its something that should have got started during the Bush years.


22 posted on 02/03/2011 1:40:15 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Army Air Corps
The closest thing we have to a baby carrier would be an LPH.

Well, then, an LPH or an LHA. Maritime surveillance? Could always go chuggin' out there in an LPH-based CH-53 or a swarm of LAMPS twirlybirds.

If all you want to do is "maritime surveillance". If you want to fight, get real, get a CVN.

The Indians might be in the market for those two British CV's the Conservatives would like someone to take off their budget. Along with the rest of the Royal Navy, Royal Marines, and Royal Air Force. Then they could afford to fix National Health and quit croaking the seniors.

23 posted on 02/04/2011 12:20:37 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Army Air Corps

That’s no reason not to do so now. US yards had lots of experience building “jeep” carriers in the past. I’m sure it wouldnt be too difficult to resurrect those skills.


24 posted on 02/04/2011 12:25:34 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: lentulusgracchus
From what I have read, the long term plan for the Indian Navy is to build up to a larger carrier. In the meantime, it is the ex-Admiral Gorshkov (soon-to-be INS Vikramaditya) and an indigenously designed and built small carrier. The INS Vikramaditya will provide roughly twice the displacement of their current carrier and the INS Vikrant will also be roughly twice the displacement of their current carrier.
25 posted on 02/04/2011 7:17:13 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Vanders9

The skills are there, but the jeep carriers were smaller than what the Indian Navy will soon acquire and the “jeep carriers”, if you recall, were not designed to last as long as their larger sisters. There is no dispute that American shipyards could build a mid-size carrier for the Indian Navy, but it would take several years for the ship to be completed. We could have approached them, say, eight years ago and inked such a deal and have a carrier ready for them by now.


26 posted on 02/04/2011 7:25:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The Indian Navy has Sea Harriers, so and LPH would not be a bad addition to their naval force. Their current aircraft carrier (INS Viraat) has FRS.51 Sea Harriers. The two new carriers will also field fighters(likely navalised MiG-29s) including an Indian-built aircraft that resembles a Mirage 2000. There is also the possibility that the new carriers will carry F-18s.
27 posted on 02/04/2011 7:49:23 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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