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We Are Witnessing the Collapse of the Middle East
American Thinker ^ | February 3, 2011 | James Simpson

Posted on 02/03/2011 5:48:40 PM PST by NCjim

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To: Rapscallion

I am stealing it.


51 posted on 02/03/2011 6:39:48 PM PST by Chickensoup (“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” Orwell)
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To: Peter from Rutland

The Chinese might not back the Muslims, but if they do, it will only to turn thsoe countries into fully collapsed backwaters and then they (the Chinese) will be able to take over, under the guise of restoring order. The Russians strike me as the type that will be on our side when Obama is out of office and they are dealing with someone who will be a reliable ally and also someone who won’t be weak.


52 posted on 02/03/2011 6:39:58 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Swede Girl
It is amazing to me that the majority of the American Jewish voters vote Democrat. How many are looking at the chessboard now and realizing and understanding that just maybe their votes for Obama (and Carter) were not well-thought out?

Sadly, almost none of them.

There is a strong chance that Israel will soon be no more and the blame is on Obama and every voter who voted for him.

Possibly true, but, don't worry; they'll find a way to rationalize the blame back to "Bush's Fault".

53 posted on 02/03/2011 6:40:37 PM PST by doc11355
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To: livius
The Muzzies, under the direction of Iran, are installing the Caliphate

I wonder if there's a connection between the sudden violent uprisings throughout the Mideast and the Stuxnet virus. Sounds far-fetched, I know. But before Stuxnet infected their centrifuges, Iran was close to having nuclear weapons which they undoubtedly would have used to destroy Israel. Stuxnet gummed up the works. As soon as Iran cleans up one infection they get hit with a new variant.

I'm sure Iran has a specific timetable in mind for the Caliphate to form. Perhaps December 2012? Hey, it was good enough for the Mayans. And it fits the timing laid out in the article: "...we are likely looking at a ring of radical Islamic states rising up to surround Israel. Once their power is solidified, perhaps in a year or two, they will combine forces to attack Israel"

If so, it means Israel's deployment of Stuxnet just forced Iran to change their tactic from nuclear annihilation of Israel to a more traditional ground game of surrounding and squeezing Israel out of existence.

54 posted on 02/03/2011 6:41:41 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: abbyg55

The problem with their demented designs is that Israel cannot be wiped out, it’s impossible. A literal impossiblity. It’s supposed ot be there in the End Times and I don’t think we’re quite there yet.


55 posted on 02/03/2011 6:43:38 PM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Swede Girl

A liberal is and always a liberal first, and always first.

We have our own liberals that hate this country...

Explained?


56 posted on 02/03/2011 6:45:16 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: NCjim
Jimmy Cahter may yet be considered the second worst president in history.

5.56mm

57 posted on 02/03/2011 6:45:44 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Paladin2

from your mouth to God’s ears!


58 posted on 02/03/2011 6:47:08 PM PST by joesjane ((The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling))
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To: NCjim

Israel won’t fall....


59 posted on 02/03/2011 6:47:44 PM PST by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: riri

You too. We need to wake up the Freepers that are not yet aware. This is the most aware site I know of.


60 posted on 02/03/2011 6:49:45 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: skeeter

Front row seat to the end of the world!!!

Grab your nearest lady, lock and load the AR, grab a beer, and pull up a chair.


61 posted on 02/03/2011 6:50:07 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Stepan12

One wonders if Obama will then stand to defend the country he swore to, or if he will be out in the streets with his fellow radical leftists burning American flags.-—————

The American flag he said is a ‘symbol of oppression’, the American flag he refused and protested during wartime as a candidate? The upside down American Flag he used as his DNC card, image??


62 posted on 02/03/2011 6:53:17 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Niuhuru
The problem with their demented designs is that Israel cannot be wiped out, it’s impossible.

I didn't say Iran would succeed, just that they may have changed their tactics in order to meet their timetable for a Caliphate after Stuxnet crippled their nuclear ambitions. I agree, Israel will survive in the end.

63 posted on 02/03/2011 6:53:53 PM PST by abbyg55
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To: 4Speed
Bush’s Iraqui Freedom....with one hell of an Army, trained by the USA.

Make no mistake, this army will be happy to fight in behalf of the caliphate.

64 posted on 02/03/2011 6:54:12 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Isn't there some way to save the Jews? Sell them South Florida - let them move everything they can move - have them get out of that place.

Once Arabs don't have Israel to blame for their problems, they'll have to reconsider some of their weirder creepier ways... or not.

65 posted on 02/03/2011 6:59:33 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: Niuhuru

China is already knee deep. I agree with the rest of your post.


66 posted on 02/03/2011 7:00:04 PM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: NCjim

This “collapse” is no more an unexpected, naturally occurring social upheaval than was the USA financial “collapse” just before the 2008 presidential election.

Both sets of events have been engineered and orchestrated by wealthy and powerful people who stand to gain from the upheaval and resultant changes.


67 posted on 02/03/2011 7:00:41 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: Rapscallion
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.”

-George Orwell

We were blessed Orwell lived in our time...

68 posted on 02/03/2011 7:01:58 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: GOPJ
Isn't there some way to save the Jews? Sell them South Florida - let them move everything they can move - have them get out of that place.

Israel belongs to them. They're not leaving.

69 posted on 02/03/2011 7:02:04 PM PST by Chunga (Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: NCjim

America has fallen and it can’t get up.

NOBAMA in 2012


70 posted on 02/03/2011 7:03:03 PM PST by Carley (ARAB STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN AMERICA'S LEFT)
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To: Niuhuru

*The Russians strike me as the type that will be on our side when Obama is out of office and they are dealing with someone who will be a reliable ally and also someone who won’t be weak.*

Yeah, because the Russkies were *so* cooperative when Bush was in office.

Get real.


71 posted on 02/03/2011 7:05:08 PM PST by j-damn
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To: GOPJ
let them move everything they can move - have them get out of that place.

That place was given to them by God.

72 posted on 02/03/2011 7:05:14 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: GOPJ

Is it true that when Obama was asked about those visits that he said these were not the same people? not the same Dohrn and Ayers? Etc?


73 posted on 02/03/2011 7:06:34 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: screaminsunshine
...we are witnessing the formation of the Middle East region of the New World Order

That statement got me to thinking... that I'd seen that somewhere before, so I went back through a ton of unerased links until I found this:
The US could sent troops to Azerbaijan under the guise of protecting its citizens

(SNIP)...“Given recent events in the Middle East, and the fact that Azerbaijan is part of the Greater Middle East plan, it is not impossible that there can be some surprises in store.”

http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1370229.html

74 posted on 02/03/2011 7:11:33 PM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: NCjim
these Middle Eastern countries will rapidly degenerate into radical Muslim thugocracies allied with our communist enemies. Israel will be the first target, and with Obama's radically anti-Israel orientation, the Israelis will stand alone. We will be next.

I subscribe to the concept of November 6, 2012 rather than December 21, 2012. Regardless of what damage Mr Obama causes, his days as leader of the free world are being numbered.

While the muslims may outnumber non-muslims in this world, their attempt to spread sharia law, by commanding from caves, riding camels to a battle, and throwing rocks to make their points will not be difficult to suppress.

Never underestimate the force and power of Israel, even if it stands alone.

And never underestimate the common American citizen when he is finally fed up with all of the bullshit that is going on in this world.

75 posted on 02/03/2011 7:13:54 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Carley; All

I laid down a hundred dollar bet with a friend tonight that we will see a Egyptian street scene in DETROIT before next Christmas!
I hope I lose but..............


76 posted on 02/03/2011 7:18:44 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: KoRn
I’m not religious, . . . .

If I were you, I'd get religious. Jesus is coming. The time is drawing near.

77 posted on 02/03/2011 7:20:25 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: doc11355
It is amazing to me that the majority of the American Jewish voters vote Democrat. How many are looking at the chessboard now and realizing and understanding that just maybe their votes for Obama (and Carter) were not well-thought out?

Many urban American Jews care more about being part of the IN crowd than what happens to Israel. One of their main concerns is that their liberal friends don't get the idea they might be conservative or right leaning.

Yes, I know many of them, and I have known many more. We might think of them as JINOs. "Progressive" social politics is their true religion. Think of Mayor Bloomberg and George Soros.

Many "progressive" American Jews would rather see Israel disappear than get caught voting for anyone other than the most liberal democrats. The older generation are still voting for FDR at every election - different thought process but same results.

On the other hand, there are many fine Jewish people in the USA who are staunch patriots, supporters of the constitution and backers of Israel.
Sadly, they are in the minority.


78 posted on 02/03/2011 7:21:27 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I agree. Many of the fools who voted for him are still defending him. The rest of them will change the subject.


79 posted on 02/03/2011 7:21:56 PM PST by Ditter
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To: RummyChick
That was a very good article on the Torah codes. I only defer on two matters:

1)Yedeykhem means "your (pl) hands," not "our hands."

2)As I understand it, the codes exist only in the Torah and no where else in the Bible. So I don't know how seriously to take a claim that there is an encoded reference to Obama in the Book of Daniel. I am quite certain that his entire life (like that of each of us) is elucidated in code in the Torah, however.

80 posted on 02/03/2011 7:22:21 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatata 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: GOPJ

The biggest problems mankind has endured in the middle east have been presented by the fire-breathing mullahs and rabbis. If they would stay out of what should be secular problems, the Arabs and Jews could have sorted this problem out centuries ago.
And I’m not leaving out the Catholic bishops. If mankind had spent half the energy on real problems, rather than man-made struggles over whose prince would reign in what area, imagine the rate at which science and technology could have advanced. We could have had, for examples, the transportation and communications we enjoy now but a century or two ago, and imagine where we might be now: Cancer cured, possibly. Polio wiped out. Clean water for more than 50% of the worlds population. Famine eliminated.
But as a practical matter, the biggest threat we face now is Islam, and Israel is our forward listening post.
If muslims cannot reconcile themselves to the fact that others (`infidels’) believe differently in matters of faith, and that jihad will result only in further death and destruction, then we will continue to waste lives, time and resources battling these murderous children of Allah.
Just sayin’ IMHO, `umbly submitted.


81 posted on 02/03/2011 7:25:19 PM PST by tumblindice ('Bi-partisanship': we all pretend the Democrats are still in charge)
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To: KoRn

In HD!


82 posted on 02/03/2011 7:28:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Chunga
Isn't there some way to save the Jews?

If there is to be another Holocaust, this time it will be nuclear and the Jews in Israel will not be the only souls burning.

I would say we can hope wiser heads will prevail before Israel is pushed too far but there are no wiser heads. Not in Europe and not in the USA either - at least not among those in power.

The USA was the greatest hope of civilized man but the election and support of Obama shows that as a country we are now far into Moonbat territory. When the boot comes down on the Jew, Obama will be cheering.


83 posted on 02/03/2011 7:31:49 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: 4Speed

The Chinese will be more than willing to trade them all they want or need for oil.


84 posted on 02/03/2011 7:32:01 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: NCjim

And here I thought Obama couldn’t possibly do more damage in his Second two years than in the first two. Boy was I ever wrong.


85 posted on 02/03/2011 7:32:56 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: GOPJ
Isn't there some way to save the Jews? Sell them South Florida - let them move everything they can move - have them get out of that place.

"That place" is the Holy Land. It is the courtyard of the King of the Universe. And Jews are commanded to live there.

86 posted on 02/03/2011 7:33:53 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatata 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Iron Munro
When the boot comes down on the Jew, Obama will be cheering.

__________________________________________

Worse, he'll be celebrating his winning strategy.

87 posted on 02/03/2011 7:34:43 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Iron Munro
When the boot comes down on the Jew, Obama will be cheering.
It won't be one boot, it will be many. One will be worn by Obama.
88 posted on 02/03/2011 7:35:02 PM PST by samtheman
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To: GOPJ

Weren’t there millions of acres in Argentina where the Jews were going to settle? That was sometime before England relented and agreed to settling them Jerusalem.


89 posted on 02/03/2011 7:38:28 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: NCjim

I am still unable to comprehend why leftists would ally themselves with the one group most likely to KILL them when the opportunity becomes available.

It is difficult to believe that a group of human beings who fashion themselves as intellectuals can be so blind, stupid & gullible.


90 posted on 02/03/2011 7:39:37 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Snowpalooza 2011)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
I think they have mastered thermonuclear designs and have a small supply of very powerful weapons and lots of smaller ones.

They probably have small nukes already located in strategic locations, just waiting for the right signal...

91 posted on 02/03/2011 7:39:59 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: GOYAKLA

I laid down a hundred dollar bet with a friend tonight that we will see a Egyptian street scene in DETROIT before next Christmas!
I hope I lose but..............


........I think the odds are 50-50 you win.


92 posted on 02/03/2011 7:45:45 PM PST by unkus
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To: NCjim
Islamo-Communist Alliance at work.
93 posted on 02/03/2011 7:46:33 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: NCjim

It’s beginning to look like. 1917 and 1938 rolled into one. The fall of Kerensky and the rise of Lenin/Hitler.


94 posted on 02/03/2011 7:50:36 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: 17th Miss Regt

They could annihilate Israel with the help of Pakistan, which has nukes.


95 posted on 02/03/2011 8:07:19 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (BYOST -- bring your own sark tag. Thank you.)
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To: KoRn

Wars and rumors of wars. Christ compared the end of the world to birth pains; they increase in frequency and severity.

I’m not religious either. But I believe in God and I believe Christ is God’s Son. So, the question is, “IF we could get to heaven by being good, why would God allow His Son to die a horrific death on the cross?” I conclude that it must have been necessary both for the purpose of justice and mercy. His holiness requires judgement and His love provides undeserved grace.

He paid a debt He didn’t owe because we owe a debt we cannot pay.


96 posted on 02/03/2011 8:11:10 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“The Samson option will ensure that if Israel falls there will be a ring of states surrounding Israel that are radioactive cinders.”

I would like to believe you’re right, but I sense that if that moment comes — when the Jews finally face their own end — that their inner “Jewish guilt” will prevent them from pulling the trigger en masse on their enemies. As Jews, it’s simply “not in them” to do so.

This is an angst that seems to thrive within Jews (particulary American Jews, but not limited to them), creating an almost palpable “ethnic guilt” that compels Jews to support liberalism and policies which seem destined to denigrate and marginalize themselves. It’s as if their success as a people is a weight upon their shoulders for which they must atone to others less fortunate and savvy.

After the Holocaust, the Jewish refrain became “never again!”

But when that moment comes, I predict that they will lose their nerve.

That’s only my opinion, and I would like to be proven wrong.
We shall see.


97 posted on 02/03/2011 8:44:21 PM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Niuhuru

Read Isaiah 19 to see how close we are.


98 posted on 02/03/2011 8:55:19 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: NCjim
Ripley makes the call
99 posted on 02/03/2011 9:01:08 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I understand - but there are so many Arabs - so much hate and rage... These people want to kill the Israelis. They hate everybody, but especially the Jews. It’s hard to watch David going up against a hundred Goliaths. Isn’t there any other option?


100 posted on 02/03/2011 9:07:11 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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