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Lieberman: Fort Hood Massacre Could Have Been Prevented; Government Officials Guilty of ‘Negligence'
CNS News ^ | February 03, 2011 | Edwin Mora

Posted on 02/03/2011 11:02:10 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

(CNSNews.com) - Senate Homeland Security Chairman Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) said on Thursday that his committee's review of the Fort Hood massacre that left 13 dead and 32 wounded demonstrated that the killings could have been prevented if the Defense Department and FBI had acted in an appropriate and timely manner, but that instead government officials had been guilty of "negligence."

“Throughout our investigation the victims of this attack and their families have weighed heavily in our minds because our report’s painful conclusion is that the Ft. Hood massacre could have and should have been prevented,” Lieberman said as he and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), the ranking member of the committee, unveiled a report on the Nov. 5, 2009 Ft. Hood killings.

“We have reached that conclusion,” said Lieberman, “because our investigation found that employees of the Department of Defense and the FBI had compelling evidence of Nidal Hasan’s growing embrace of violent Islamist extremism in the years before the attack that should have caused them to discharge him from the U.S. military and make him the subject of an aggressive counter-terrorism investigation”

In response to a question from CNSNews.com about whether any one in the government had been held accountable for the way they dealt with Hasan, Lieberman said he was not aware that anyone had been held accountable and that the handling of Hasan was an example of “negligence”

“I don’t believe anyone has been disciplined or terminated because of the failures mentioned in this report and that’s something that I want to hear about from both the Department of Defense and the FBI and the others who we’re sending the report to,” said Lieberman. “Look, it wasn’t evil intent on people in the federal government, it was just what I would call negligence, failure to perform the duties as we have the right to expect federal employees will do, and as of yet no one has been held accountable.”

Collins said it was “very disturbing” that no one has been yet held accountable.

“The Department of Defense has told us that they are waiting until after the legal proceedings against Maj. Hasan are completed and I expect and hope that we’ll see action at that time, but it’s a long time,” said Collins.

According to the Homeland Security Committee’s report, both the Defense Department and the FBI had evidence of Hasan’s radicalization and embrace of violent extremism, but that the agencies “failed both to understand and to act on it.”

“The FBI and DOD together failed to recognize and to link the information that they possessed about Hasan: (I) Hasan was a military officer who lived under a regimented system with strict officership and security standards, standards which his behavior during his military medical training violated; and (2) the government had [REDACTED] communications from Hasan to a suspected terrorist, [REDACTED], who was involved in anti-American activities and the subject of an unrelated FBI terrorism investigation,” said the report.

Lieberman said he had been asked by the FBI not to release the name of the suspected terrorist with whom Hasan had been communicating. However, Lieberman did note that media reports suggest the suspected terrorist was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen who has ties with al-Qaeda

The government failed to discipline or discharge Hasan after two of his colleagues warned that he was a “ticking time bomb,” according to the report. Instead, the Defense Department saw his “obsession with violent Islamist extremism” as “praiseworthy research on counterterrorism.”

On the issue of Hasan’s communications with a suspected terrorist, the report said the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force “failed to identify the totality of Hasan's communications and to inform Hasan's military chain of command and Army security officials of the fact that he was communicating with a suspected violent Islamist extremist--a shocking course of conduct for a U.S. military officer.”

Instead, the report said, the FBI “relied on Hasan's erroneous Officer Evaluation Reports and ultimately dismissed his communications as legitimate research.”

The issue of Hasan’s communications was never referred to FBI headquarters therefore “the FBI's inquiry into Hasan ended prematurely,” said the report.

The report also said that the Defense Department had “compelling evidence” that Hasan had embraced violent Islamist extremis, but failed to take action against him.

“It is clear from this failure that DOD lacks the institutional culture, through updated policies and training, sufficient to inform commanders and all levels of service members how to identify radicalization to violent Islamist extremism and to distinguish this ideology from the peaceful practice of Islam,” said the report.

Lieberman said the Hasan case demonstrates that even after the 9/11 terrorist attacks the federal government still has not “adequately defined the roles and responsibilities of agencies of our government and other institutions of our society that must effectively counter radicalization to violent Islamist extremism in our country.”

“We will do everything we can to push the relevant federal government agencies to do everything they can urgently to make sure that nothing like this ever happens again,” later added Sen. Lieberman.

“Despite Hasan's overt displays of radicalization to violent Islamist extremism, Hasan's superiors failed to discipline him, refer him to counterintelligence officials, or seek to discharge him,” said the report.

“One of the officers who reported Hasan to superiors opined that Hasan was permitted to remain in service because of ‘political correctness’ and ignorance of religious practices, said the report. “That officer added that he believed that concern about potential discrimination complaints stopped some individuals from challenging Hasan. We are concerned that exactly such worries about ‘political correctness’ inhibited Hasan's superiors and colleagues who were deeply troubled by his behavior from taking the actions against him that could have prevented the attack at Fort Hood. However, none of the superiors cited ‘political correctness’ as the reason for not acting against Hasan.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dod; fbi; forthood; hasan; lieberman; nidalhasan

1 posted on 02/03/2011 11:02:12 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Yup...


2 posted on 02/03/2011 11:06:05 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Mr. Mojo

We knew here very soon it was PC BS that got those people murdered.

And PC BS may very well deliver a dirty bomb or worse to this nation.

Nothing has been solved. Nothing.

This goes to the top.

Obama.. don’t jump to conclusions.


3 posted on 02/03/2011 11:10:33 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Lieberman, huh. Who else was in on this shocking exercise in hate speech?


4 posted on 02/03/2011 11:14:20 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Mr. Mojo

There are 2 sets of laws in America,one for the sheep and none for the people in government.


5 posted on 02/03/2011 11:31:17 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Lieberman - he’s like a Republican mini-me. Every once in a while he just kinda says something that makes sense.

If all Democrats were Liebermans and all Republicans were Tea Party, we’d have somethin’.


6 posted on 02/03/2011 11:37:38 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: Mr. Mojo

So how does the DoD respond? By welcoming queers into the military.


7 posted on 02/03/2011 11:39:56 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"negligence, failure to perform the duties as we have the right to expect federal employees will do."

IOW, they were surfing porn.


8 posted on 02/03/2011 11:40:01 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Government negliance-will anyone be held accountable-no.
9 posted on 02/03/2011 11:40:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
yup....Hence the Wiki Leaks
10 posted on 02/03/2011 11:50:12 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Mr. Mojo

Lieberman and Collins.... Two “moderates” who continue to do their part to usher in the progressive movement’s political correctness that’s getting people killed.


11 posted on 02/04/2011 12:01:30 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Mr. Mojo

Duh!


12 posted on 02/04/2011 12:04:48 AM PST by pallis
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To: Mr. Mojo

Any legal eagles know whether this opens up the government to claims of damages filed under the Federal Tort Claims Act?

It seems that negligence has already been established. Socking the Feds with a big bux damages suit by all the many victims would do a great deal to raise the cost of using political correctness as the standard of practice.


13 posted on 02/04/2011 12:18:04 AM PST by Da Mav
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To: Mr. Mojo
What a surprise. Not!

The Muslim Brotherhood, through CAIR, has already infiltrated our government.

14 posted on 02/04/2011 12:22:18 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: pallis
Muzzies + PC + Gun Free Zone = Terrorist Activity. A Military Post that bans guns, Ridiculous. Part of Bubba’s Legacy.
15 posted on 02/04/2011 12:24:33 AM PST by barb-tex ( C)
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To: M-cubed; Mr Ramsbotham

During the cold war, the British had so many problems with homosexual MI-6 agents being either recruited or blackmailed by Moscow that the CIA was very hesitant to share information with the Brits.


16 posted on 02/04/2011 12:37:55 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: Mr. Mojo

The families of the 13 need to sue the DNC for wrongful death.


17 posted on 02/04/2011 12:43:32 AM PST by NoLibZone
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To: Da Mav
-- Any legal eagles know whether this opens up the government to claims of damages filed under the Federal Tort Claims Act? --

Any opening under FTCA exists independently of Lieberman and Collins remarks. Their remarks might be useful to persuade a judge in a trial against the government, but the claim itself doesn't really get any stronger or weaker on account of off-hand congressional remarks.

I don't know the answer to your question, been scanning FTCA Handbook, a 1.3Mb PDF collection of FTCA case citations.

An interesting take at The Fort Hood Attack: Terrorist Act or Tort?, which presents a thumbnail view of the Feres Doctrine, "the United States government is immune from suit under the Federal Tort Claims Act for injuries sustained by members of the armed forces due to the negligence of others in the armed forces," but then concluding this generality is not the final word; for one thing, some of the injured people are civilians.

18 posted on 02/04/2011 1:42:20 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Mr. Mojo

“That’s nice, Joe, but first a shout out to my homies on the res.” - 0bowdown


19 posted on 02/04/2011 1:56:16 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Mr. Mojo

bttt


20 posted on 02/04/2011 1:56:37 AM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Lieberman - he’s like a Republican mini-me. Every once in a while he just kinda says something that makes sense.

Ed Koch can be like that too.

They're both liberals through and through. Not crazy though, like so many others who let the idological prism through which they view the world make them blind.

21 posted on 02/04/2011 2:46:37 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Senator, haven’t you noticed that this government does not act against muslims.


22 posted on 02/04/2011 2:48:05 AM PST by Carley (ARAB STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN AMERICA'S LEFT)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Collins said it was “very disturbing” that no one has been yet held accountable.

This same "negligence" is attributable to government policies and actions to "dumb down" our entire country over the past thirty years. We have diversity training, EEO quotas, lowered job requirements, and elevated subordinate positions. What happens when you elevate an office (EEO) to equal stature as the head of an agency, with a seat at the table?

The clerk at the airport failed to stop the 9/11 terrorists because he or she did not want to be accused of bias and discrimination against a minority. His or her supervisor chain had to deal with a high level official of equal rank in charge of "diversity and fairness." In a similar manner, the military officials failed to raise the concern about the terrorist. They would have had to argue what he could have done before it happened. Since he had not yet taken action, the accusers were vulnerable to criticism. Our system is geared for failure after failure as it stands.

What happens, when, year after year, you select not the best person for the job, but one who satisfies your quotas for women, blacks, minorities? What happens when you select people for positions not on the content of their character, but on the color of their skin? Do you always the best person for the job?

We have a seriously flawed management structure in both the private and public sectors because of the lack of common sense among our lawmakers, like Mr. Lieberman, IMO.

23 posted on 02/04/2011 3:15:30 AM PST by olezip
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To: Cboldt

fascinating; thanks for the link


24 posted on 02/04/2011 3:15:34 AM PST by Da Mav
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yep! And not too long after an angry gay soldier with mental problems steals intelligence and gives it to WikiLeaks!


25 posted on 02/04/2011 3:40:42 AM PST by panthermom
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To: brityank

Great Post in context of the subject of this thread.


26 posted on 02/04/2011 3:44:06 AM PST by bvw
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To: Mr. Mojo
Collins said it was “very disturbing” that no one has been yet held accountable.

That statement is so laden with irony, it attracts a magnet. Anyone want to be that if someone had dealt with Hasan, Collins (RINO-ME) would have been one of the first howling about profiling?
27 posted on 02/04/2011 4:41:03 AM PST by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The political correctness rampant within the bureacracy is dangerous.

Fort Hood is just the tip of this iceberg. Look at our intelligence failures since Clinton.

This will be our undoing.


29 posted on 02/04/2011 5:04:12 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: bvw; Mr. Mojo
Some additional info on MB and its infiltration:

Muslim Brotherhood's Penetration of Obama Administration

Read the whole column, (and comments), but be warned it will make you sick.
And mad!

30 posted on 02/04/2011 11:20:06 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

How does Obammy the Muslim respond after he showed distain for those who were outraged by the mass murder of his jihadi brother?

He leaves the borders wide open knowing of Islamic terrorists entering the US and knowing they have access to nuke and biological weapons.

He cracks down hard on innocent Americans - domestic terrorists all; sexually molesting them at the airports and then he threatens to strip his political enemies of their free speech and second amendment rights.

As if he were on a jihad against the constitution, he refuses to obey court order, even when found in contempt and politicizes the justice department claiming the infidels don’t have equal voting rights to the Islamic brothers of the Nation of Islam.

Finally, he is threatening the lives of everyone by working with the Muslim Brotherhood and American radials to destablize the Middle East for a bloody attack on the US and Israel.

Everything he does shows he is a Muslim on a jihad against America from the White House and no one in the Republican party says squat about it. You have McLame kissing his butt.


31 posted on 02/04/2011 1:29:01 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Mr. Mojo

I think Americans are going to have to hit absolute rock bottom before their heads can be set straight. Too many people either shrug with indifference or are to distracted with wordly things. Sigh!


32 posted on 02/04/2011 1:31:32 PM PST by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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